Since: Apr 13

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#620557 Apr 30, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
So you buy into any conspiracy nonsense as long as it gives you justification to hate someone.
You do know what assumption does to you don't you?

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#620558 Apr 30, 2013
My Portal wrote:
<quoted text>Faith as the Evidence of things Unseen (Forerunner Commentary ...
Evidence of the unseen things gives a person conviction.... Thus, living faith is belief in God that keeps the commandments. Living faith produces growth.
www.bibletools.org/.../Faith-as-&#8203;Ev... -
Pfft.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#620559 Apr 30, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh?
<quoted text>
Where? When?
<quoted text>
Says you. I say you're wrong. You present no argument, so why should I?
<quoted text>
You're telling me that I have a confirmation bias, yet you can't identify it.
<quoted text>
How ironic. Your next statement here applies to what you just did.
Those are not my positions, dolt.
<quoted text>
My opinions are rationally derived.
Why can't you accept that?
Is it too uncomfortable?
Why would your opinions make me uncomfortable?

What exactly are your "opinions"?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#620560 Apr 30, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>
It does not go both ways, man.
Lacking a belief, or even rejecting a belief, is not the same as adopting a belief. No faith is required. No bias is required. Only skepticism is required.
You're just childishly turning my arguments around against me.
<quoted text>
I would entertain countless possible explanations, in any scenario, before believing an impossible explanation.
See? God *poofing* in next to you is "an impossible explanation".

That's your confirmation bias right there.

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#620561 Apr 30, 2013
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>Apparently, he believes it is up to him to decide what is impossible. Not much free-thinking there.
So true. Sadly it seems to be a common theme on these threads. Certain people proclaiming themselves "free-thinkers" yet claim to know absolute truth and condemn any who challenges their views or behaviors.

Since: Apr 13

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#620562 Apr 30, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Pfft.
As your friend Biden said, this is a BFD.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#620563 Apr 30, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>
Or yours.
<quoted text>
Is this an argument that the God character never tortures a single person for an eternity? It doesn't look like it.
Eternal punishment negates justice, love, and mercy.
No, it's a direct response to your inquiry of:

"Does this work for you? Let's say you live your entire life without ever hearing of God, you die, and you are tortured for an eternity. Where was the justice in that?"

You are wrong. I just showed you that.

Since: Sep 10

San Francisco, CA

#620564 Apr 30, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You are wrong. I just showed you that.
A very Buckish statement.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#620565 Apr 30, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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A very Buckish statement.
Whatever, dude. It's true. Tide claimed that it's not justice that people who have never even heard of Jesus go straight to Hell.

He was wrong.

Since: Sep 10

San Francisco, CA

#620566 Apr 30, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Whatever, dude. It's true. Tide claimed that it's not justice that people who have never even heard of Jesus go straight to Hell.
He was wrong.
That's your opinion and nothing more.

I happen to agree with Tide.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#620567 Apr 30, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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Sure.
As soon as you convince me that he existed.
Then you'll have to convince me that he's not dead.
i guess you're not a fan of history and evidence, huh? nothing i can do about that!

the law of the land dictates that we agree to disagree without doing each other harm and i'm more than good with leaving it at that!:)

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#620568 Apr 30, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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i guess you're not a fan of history and evidence, huh? nothing i can do about that!
the law of the land dictates that we agree to disagree without doing each other harm and i'm more than good with leaving it at that!:)
What has the law of the land or its dictates have to do with agreeing to disagree without doing harm to another?

Couldn't you agree to disagree without doing harm to another even if it wasn't the "law of the land"?

Is it only the law which keeps you in check and which you must rely on in the absence of possessing any moral fiber?

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#620569 Apr 30, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Whatever, dude. It's true. Tide claimed that it's not justice that people who have never even heard of Jesus go straight to Hell.
He was wrong.
What was he wrong about?

Was it his claim that it's not justice or was he wrong about those who haven't heard of your Jesus going straight to hell?

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

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#620570 Apr 30, 2013
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>"We?" I think for myself and you are full of crap.
Actually you spend most of your topix time trying to be annoying condescending, adversarial, opinionated, and hostile to any thoughts other than those that mirror your own.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#620571 Apr 30, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>What has the law of the land or its dictates have to do with agreeing to disagree without doing harm to another?
Couldn't you agree to disagree without doing harm to another even if it wasn't the "law of the land"?
Is it only the law which keeps you in check and which you must rely on in the absence of possessing any moral fiber?
http://blogs.965thebuzz.com/files/2011/06/gla...

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#620572 Apr 30, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
See? God *poofing* in next to you is "an impossible explanation".
That's your confirmation bias right there.
I'm only going to respond to this one post.

I trust the laws of logic. If we can call anything impossible, we must start with logical contradictions. The Bible describes "God" in logical contradictions.

This is my position. See what you can do to counter it.

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#620573 Apr 30, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
That's your opinion and nothing more.
I happen to agree with Tide.
If I had the Bible memorized, I'd produce the verses that contradict those he posted.

But the point is irrelevant.

A god that tortures even one person for an eternity, no matter what they did in life, isn't a just god, a merciful god, or a loving god.

If we know what justice, mercy, and love are, we cannot apply these characteristics to such a being.

Since: Sep 10

San Francisco, CA

#620574 Apr 30, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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If I had the Bible memorized, I'd produce the verses that contradict those he posted.
But the point is irrelevant.
A god that tortures even one person for an eternity, no matter what they did in life, isn't a just god, a merciful god, or a loving god.
If we know what justice, mercy, and love are, we cannot apply these characteristics to such a being.
I can't even bother with the god concept.

If and when the dude makes an appearance, I'll consider it.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#620575 Apr 30, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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That's your opinion and nothing more.
I happen to agree with Tide.
How could you? The bible directly refutes it.

Oh ya, how could I forget? Your confirmation bias won't allow you to see any other way than yours.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#620576 Apr 30, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>What was he wrong about?
Was it his claim that it's not justice or was he wrong about those who haven't heard of your Jesus going straight to hell?
You didn't read my response to him either, did you? He was wrong about it. Here's the post again.

The Bible says God will judge all people righteously. There will be a stricter judgment for people that have rejected Jesus than those who have never heard of Him.

Paul tells us that those who have never heard of the law are not attributed to sin under the law.

The people who have never heard of the law are judged by the law of God which He has placed into their hearts:

Romans 2:14-16

14 Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law.
15 They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them.
16 This will take place on the day when God judges people’s secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.

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