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Apr 27, 2013
 
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You have kids?
Does it matter if I have kids? You seem to think that making a child automatically makes you an expert. As you have demonstrated, this is not the case.

Babies don't learn in the way that adults do. You seem to think they do.

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What the f_ck is it with this generation that thinks babies are stupid?
Didn't say they were stupid. They also do not have fully realized brains.

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Apr 27, 2013
 
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HA HA HA!!
Ya, dude. OK...... "babies don't manipulate"....
HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!
Wow.

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Apr 27, 2013
 
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So then you advocate spankings only when the child is mature?
Doncha think that's a little too late to start?
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BINGO!
The baby learns very quickly that they can't throw a fit when you take a toy away at bedtime, or when they refuse to eat their food and throw it on the floor, or when they yank on the dog's ears....
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Get your mind out of the gutter - this debate is not about a baby crying, it's about their actions.
You specifically said that you hit your baby for crying. They do not make the connection that you seem to think they make. They learn "crying gets me hit." Not "crying for 'no reason' gets me hit."

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HA HA HA!!!!
Sorry, timn. I had to stop ya there.
You think liberals "defend our rights"????
Then why the f_ck are they trying to deny us our right to bear arms?
Amongst many other rights the liberals want to take away - like the right to use a God damned plastic bag at the grocery store if I feel like it.
When I said "damned liberals," I wasn't referring to the overall left, I was referring to myself, which is why I put it in quotation marks.

But ok, you go along on your plastic bag crusade and your penis compensator protest, and I'll worry about the important things, like the government turning the US into a paranoid police state perpetually at war with the enemy of the week.

But I like how you avoided everything I said.

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Apr 27, 2013
 
saidI wrote:
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This doesn't ever prove the existence of a God. This proves that guy was really lucky.

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Prove it.

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The man is alive after falling 8 floors. There's your proof that this guy is really lucky.
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I know they don't. They come out with a still-developing brain.
And it's the parent's job to teach, train and develop them.
Not to be their bitch.
The parent's are in charge, not the child.
That seems a difficult concept for "lefties"...
My system for child rearing is quite simple. I sold my son to the gypsies.

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"We turned on eachother and allowed the government and the media to instill paranoia and fear in us all"
Did "we" do that?
'cuz I remember quite differently.
Because you are a white american who was caught up in the go team america nonsense. It was pretty dangerous to look muslim after 9/11. And when I say "we," I am talking about people in general. We turned on people who looked a little different than us, and we allowed ourselves to become desensitized to the murder of innocent people.

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They've got to keep their rich buddies in the military industrial complex rolling in green.
I think some of those people breathe money.
Yep. Pretty much. The US isn't even a democracy anymore, it's a corporatocracy. People get elected by big money, and then they owe big favors.

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I know they don't. They come out with a still-developing brain.
And it's the parent's job to teach, train and develop them.
Not to be their bitch.
The parent's are in charge, not the child.
That seems a difficult concept for "lefties"...
No, hitting a child for crying seems to be a difficult concept for "lefties."

Remember, I'm not a "lefty." I'm not a big fan of the partisan bickering that the right vs. left dichotomy creates in this country. It's a great way to keep people distracted from the issues that actually matter. Case in point - you consider a plastic tax more important than the patriot act, simply because of your knee jerk reaction against anything on the "left."

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Apr 27, 2013
 
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<quoted text>Nevermind, I was mixing up negative reinforcement and positive punishment.
The point is, spanking a 6 month old child for crying does nothing but create a fear of crying.
I agree, which is why I've never spanked a 6 month old baby for crying.

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And yes, there are many more things we should be doing to help the environment, or at least reduce our impact, but one thing at a time RR. You can't expect for plastic to go away overnight. Taxing plastic bags is a good way to get people to really think about whether they really need to put 20 plastic bags into the trash every time they go shopping.
OK, RR understands that.

And agrees.

One thing at a time.

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There it is again....
"You don't understand"
UGH!
Here, read psychology.about.com
It'll tell ya all about it.
Dude, don't try to school me on psychology. It's a stupid mistake that's easy to make. I don't get my knowledge on this from google.

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You said "atheism is also socially supported." Where was the part where you qualified that statement? The fact is, it's not. It doesn't require social support to exist. It does not need to be "propped up" by social validation, because it doesn't require us to believe in things that directly contradict reason, logic, and evidence.
OK, that's a nice opinion.

It's funny how atheists always think themselves smarter amd superior to us lowly theists.

Of course without any reason, logic, or evidence...
Atheists don't want it "their way," they want it the way that the founders wanted it - a seperation of church and state.
HA! You did not just go there, did you?

The founding fathers wanted the separation so they'd be free to practice their religion.

They held Congress in a church, wanna go back to that?
I don't know about the specifics of the cross that has you so upset so I can't comment, but religious symbols shouldn't be displayed on public land.
"shouldn't be"? Why not? It's not illegal...
What if the US became majority muslim overnight? Would you defend crescent moons being displayed in front of courthouses? Or "in allah we trust" on our money?
No, but I wouldn't persecute it either. If that's what the majority wants, so be it.
Also, there is a big difference between advocating for seperation of church and state and discriminating. The removal of a cross, no matter how much sentimental value it has, does not count as discrimination or an attack on your religion,
I absolutely is an attack on religion. It absolutely is discrimination. It absolutely is bigotry.

But I see your thinking - as long as it's pointed towards religion or a religious symbo, that's ok.
and it is not "our" fault that your faith is so fragile that it depends on public displays thereof.
It has nothing to do with frailty, it has to do with respect - a trait atheists just won't grasp.(as that sentence showed)
Atheists are actually discriminated against - I can turn on the radio or the TV and find a pundit talking about how school shootings happen because "we took god out of schools" or someone talking about how atheists are causing the downfall of america.
LOL, you consider that discrimination? That a man, a "pundit" is voicing his opinion?

Whouldn't you just love it if we all shut the hell up? Oh well...

Or we can do it your way; "It is not "our" fault that your faith in atheism is so fragile that it depends on public opinions agreeing with you."

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timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Your point? I know he has the ability. Yet he allows his little simulation to run, knowing full well exactly how many of his beloved creations will end up burning in hell for eternity.
*shrugs* Hey pal, that's your choice.

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timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Does it matter if I have kids? You seem to think that making a child automatically makes you an expert. As you have demonstrated, this is not the case.
Babies don't learn in the way that adults do. You seem to think they do.
Based on your comments about babies, I assume you don't have any.

You can't learn how the raise a child by reading a book.

Try living with one for years and years and years.

Then add another one and start all over.

You tend to learn quite a bit.

And I've learned not to take child rearing advice or opinion from anyone that doesn['t have kids. They're always wrong.

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HA HA HA!!!!
Sorry, timn. I had to stop ya there.
You think liberals "defend our rights"????
Then why the f_ck are they trying to deny us our right to bear arms?
Amongst many other rights the liberals want to take away - like the right to use a God damned plastic bag at the grocery store if I feel like it.
so you are against the gov't denying us our rights...

so you are against outlawing drugs, after all we should be free to put anything we want into our bodies...it doesn't affect anyone else

euthanasia should also be legal

abortion should be unrestricted and legal

finally something we can agree on

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This doesn't ever prove the existence of a God. This proves that guy was really lucky.
RR wrote:
Prove it.
saidI wrote:
The man is alive after falling 8 floors. There's your proof that this guy is really lucky.
Really?

I say it's proof that God saved him.

Prove me wrong.

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Anon wrote:
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My system for child rearing is quite simple. I sold my son to the gypsies.
Ahahahahaha!

Did you get rich?

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timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Because you are a white american who was caught up in the go team america nonsense. It was pretty dangerous to look muslim after 9/11. And when I say "we," I am talking about people in general. We turned on people who looked a little different than us, and we allowed ourselves to become desensitized to the murder of innocent people.
We did?

huh....

I thought we were killing our known enemies.

But ok.

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