Anon

Lakewood, OH

#620198 Apr 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I know they don't. They come out with a still-developing brain.
And it's the parent's job to teach, train and develop them.
Not to be their bitch.
The parent's are in charge, not the child.
That seems a difficult concept for "lefties"...
My system for child rearing is quite simple. I sold my son to the gypsies.

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#620199 Apr 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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"We turned on eachother and allowed the government and the media to instill paranoia and fear in us all"
Did "we" do that?
'cuz I remember quite differently.
Because you are a white american who was caught up in the go team america nonsense. It was pretty dangerous to look muslim after 9/11. And when I say "we," I am talking about people in general. We turned on people who looked a little different than us, and we allowed ourselves to become desensitized to the murder of innocent people.

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#620200 Apr 27, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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They've got to keep their rich buddies in the military industrial complex rolling in green.
I think some of those people breathe money.
Yep. Pretty much. The US isn't even a democracy anymore, it's a corporatocracy. People get elected by big money, and then they owe big favors.

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#620201 Apr 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
I know they don't. They come out with a still-developing brain.
And it's the parent's job to teach, train and develop them.
Not to be their bitch.
The parent's are in charge, not the child.
That seems a difficult concept for "lefties"...
No, hitting a child for crying seems to be a difficult concept for "lefties."

Remember, I'm not a "lefty." I'm not a big fan of the partisan bickering that the right vs. left dichotomy creates in this country. It's a great way to keep people distracted from the issues that actually matter. Case in point - you consider a plastic tax more important than the patriot act, simply because of your knee jerk reaction against anything on the "left."

“Ditat Deus”

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#620202 Apr 27, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Nevermind, I was mixing up negative reinforcement and positive punishment.
The point is, spanking a 6 month old child for crying does nothing but create a fear of crying.
I agree, which is why I've never spanked a 6 month old baby for crying.

“Ditat Deus”

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#620203 Apr 27, 2013
timn17 wrote:
And yes, there are many more things we should be doing to help the environment, or at least reduce our impact, but one thing at a time RR. You can't expect for plastic to go away overnight. Taxing plastic bags is a good way to get people to really think about whether they really need to put 20 plastic bags into the trash every time they go shopping.
OK, RR understands that.

And agrees.

One thing at a time.

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#620204 Apr 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
There it is again....
"You don't understand"
UGH!
Here, read psychology.about.com
It'll tell ya all about it.
Dude, don't try to school me on psychology. It's a stupid mistake that's easy to make. I don't get my knowledge on this from google.

“Ditat Deus”

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#620205 Apr 27, 2013
timn17 wrote:
You said "atheism is also socially supported." Where was the part where you qualified that statement? The fact is, it's not. It doesn't require social support to exist. It does not need to be "propped up" by social validation, because it doesn't require us to believe in things that directly contradict reason, logic, and evidence.
OK, that's a nice opinion.

It's funny how atheists always think themselves smarter amd superior to us lowly theists.

Of course without any reason, logic, or evidence...
Atheists don't want it "their way," they want it the way that the founders wanted it - a seperation of church and state.
HA! You did not just go there, did you?

The founding fathers wanted the separation so they'd be free to practice their religion.

They held Congress in a church, wanna go back to that?
I don't know about the specifics of the cross that has you so upset so I can't comment, but religious symbols shouldn't be displayed on public land.
"shouldn't be"? Why not? It's not illegal...
What if the US became majority muslim overnight? Would you defend crescent moons being displayed in front of courthouses? Or "in allah we trust" on our money?
No, but I wouldn't persecute it either. If that's what the majority wants, so be it.
Also, there is a big difference between advocating for seperation of church and state and discriminating. The removal of a cross, no matter how much sentimental value it has, does not count as discrimination or an attack on your religion,
I absolutely is an attack on religion. It absolutely is discrimination. It absolutely is bigotry.

But I see your thinking - as long as it's pointed towards religion or a religious symbo, that's ok.
and it is not "our" fault that your faith is so fragile that it depends on public displays thereof.
It has nothing to do with frailty, it has to do with respect - a trait atheists just won't grasp.(as that sentence showed)
Atheists are actually discriminated against - I can turn on the radio or the TV and find a pundit talking about how school shootings happen because "we took god out of schools" or someone talking about how atheists are causing the downfall of america.
LOL, you consider that discrimination? That a man, a "pundit" is voicing his opinion?

Whouldn't you just love it if we all shut the hell up? Oh well...

Or we can do it your way; "It is not "our" fault that your faith in atheism is so fragile that it depends on public opinions agreeing with you."

“Ditat Deus”

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#620206 Apr 27, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Your point? I know he has the ability. Yet he allows his little simulation to run, knowing full well exactly how many of his beloved creations will end up burning in hell for eternity.
*shrugs* Hey pal, that's your choice.

“Ditat Deus”

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#620207 Apr 27, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Does it matter if I have kids? You seem to think that making a child automatically makes you an expert. As you have demonstrated, this is not the case.
Babies don't learn in the way that adults do. You seem to think they do.
Based on your comments about babies, I assume you don't have any.

You can't learn how the raise a child by reading a book.

Try living with one for years and years and years.

Then add another one and start all over.

You tend to learn quite a bit.

And I've learned not to take child rearing advice or opinion from anyone that doesn['t have kids. They're always wrong.

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#620208 Apr 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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HA HA HA!!!!
Sorry, timn. I had to stop ya there.
You think liberals "defend our rights"????
Then why the f_ck are they trying to deny us our right to bear arms?
Amongst many other rights the liberals want to take away - like the right to use a God damned plastic bag at the grocery store if I feel like it.
so you are against the gov't denying us our rights...

so you are against outlawing drugs, after all we should be free to put anything we want into our bodies...it doesn't affect anyone else

euthanasia should also be legal

abortion should be unrestricted and legal

finally something we can agree on

“Ditat Deus”

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#620209 Apr 27, 2013
saidI wrote:
saidI wrote:
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This doesn't ever prove the existence of a God. This proves that guy was really lucky.
RR wrote:
Prove it.
saidI wrote:
The man is alive after falling 8 floors. There's your proof that this guy is really lucky.
Really?

I say it's proof that God saved him.

Prove me wrong.

“Ditat Deus”

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#620210 Apr 27, 2013
Anon wrote:
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My system for child rearing is quite simple. I sold my son to the gypsies.
Ahahahahaha!

Did you get rich?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#620211 Apr 27, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Because you are a white american who was caught up in the go team america nonsense. It was pretty dangerous to look muslim after 9/11. And when I say "we," I am talking about people in general. We turned on people who looked a little different than us, and we allowed ourselves to become desensitized to the murder of innocent people.
We did?

huh....

I thought we were killing our known enemies.

But ok.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#620212 Apr 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree, which is why I've never spanked a 6 month old baby for crying.
Just a quick "drive-by" for me today....

RR- you stated that it's okay to spank a 6 month old baby if they are interrupting Mommy and Daddy's quiet dinner by crying for no discernible reason- other than your interpretation that they are being "manipulative".

So if you never spanked a 6 month old baby for crying, just why DID you spank a 6 month old baby?

What was the 6 month old baby doing that couldn't be prevented by any number of other ways other than hitting them?

What kind of ADULT are you that you DO allow babies to control you by being totally at your wit's end as to how to keep them from doing something you don't want them to do other than by hitting them?

And yeah- you DID say it's okay to spank a 6 month old baby for crying.

Now you're attempting to back pedal and as always, failing miserably in your attempt.

I don't CARE if someone has kids or not; that is NOT the issue.

The issue is to whether or not it's right or wrong to use corporal punishment on a 6 month old baby.

It's WRONG. Period.

And our LAWS are wrong in that regard as well. It is against the law to hit a spouse, a stranger, someone else's child, etc.

But there are NO laws to protect babies and children from their own parents unless it is a question of visible abuse.

Sorry, RR- just because you might not leave bruises or welts on the tender tushie of a 6 month old baby does not mean that to strike a 6 month old baby is NOT abuse. It IS.

I don't expect you to agree given how you are so totally lacking in that which can logically be defined as true moral fiber.

Nothing is right or just about hitting babies. And just because you are a parent, that does not mean you are a GOOD parent or that you are even QUALIFIED to be a parent.

Based on what you've posted here about your child-rearing, you DO fit the definition of what is an UNFIT parent.

Speaking of parenting, enjoy your weekend in front of your computer rather than spending this time with your SONS.

PS- I told my man about your remark about my breath yesterday- when you said after throwing up in my mouth a little it probably smelled better than it had in a month- he found that to be VERY funny- completely untrue, but humorous nonetheless.

And if you truly were a good parent and a good husband and a good animal owner, you would be spending your time with THEM rather than having jumped on the computer at 6AM your time this morning.

Sorry for your luck that Topix obviously IS your life.

Gotta go- I prefer to LIVE life with Topix as an aside rather than the main thrust of why I get up in the morning- as is the case with YOU.

Toodles!

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#620213 Apr 27, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>No, hitting a child for crying seems to be a difficult concept for "lefties."
And a difficult concept for me - as I don't condone spanking a child simply for crying.
Remember, I'm not a "lefty." I'm not a big fan of the partisan bickering that the right vs. left dichotomy creates in this country. It's a great way to keep people distracted from the issues that actually matter. Case in point - you consider a plastic tax more important than the patriot act, simply because of your knee jerk reaction against anything on the "left."
I never understood why you people hate the PATRIOT act so much.

It's not like "big brother" can or will eavesdrop on every little phone call. If they wanted to, they still needed permission form a judge after they've shown some reason to think you are a suspected terrorist. That's bad?

I don't consider the plastic bag tax "more important" than the PATRIOT act, I never siad that or anything close to it, you're asserting now.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#620214 Apr 27, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>
so you are against the gov't denying us our rights...
Yes.
so you are against outlawing drugs, after all we should be free to put anything we want into our bodies...it doesn't affect anyone else
No.
euthanasia should also be legal
Yes.
abortion should be unrestricted and legal
Yes.
finally something we can agree on
Finally....
Anon

Lakewood, OH

#620215 Apr 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Ahahahahaha!
Did you get rich?
No, but the new clubs I bought from the transaction really improved my back nine...

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#620216 Apr 27, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>Just a quick "drive-by" for me today....
RR- you stated that it's okay to spank a 6 month old baby if they are interrupting Mommy and Daddy's quiet dinner by crying for no discernible reason- other than your interpretation that they are being "manipulative".
So if you never spanked a 6 month old baby for crying, just why DID you spank a 6 month old baby?
What was the 6 month old baby doing that couldn't be prevented by any number of other ways other than hitting them?
What kind of ADULT are you that you DO allow babies to control you by being totally at your wit's end as to how to keep them from doing something you don't want them to do other than by hitting them?
And yeah- you DID say it's okay to spank a 6 month old baby for crying.
Now you're attempting to back pedal and as always, failing miserably in your attempt.
I don't CARE if someone has kids or not; that is NOT the issue.
The issue is to whether or not it's right or wrong to use corporal punishment on a 6 month old baby.
It's WRONG. Period.
And our LAWS are wrong in that regard as well. It is against the law to hit a spouse, a stranger, someone else's child, etc.
But there are NO laws to protect babies and children from their own parents unless it is a question of visible abuse.
Sorry, RR- just because you might not leave bruises or welts on the tender tushie of a 6 month old baby does not mean that to strike a 6 month old baby is NOT abuse. It IS.
I don't expect you to agree given how you are so totally lacking in that which can logically be defined as true moral fiber.
Nothing is right or just about hitting babies. And just because you are a parent, that does not mean you are a GOOD parent or that you are even QUALIFIED to be a parent.
Based on what you've posted here about your child-rearing, you DO fit the definition of what is an UNFIT parent.
Speaking of parenting, enjoy your weekend in front of your computer rather than spending this time with your SONS.
PS- I told my man about your remark about my breath yesterday- when you said after throwing up in my mouth a little it probably smelled better than it had in a month- he found that to be VERY funny- completely untrue, but humorous nonetheless.
And if you truly were a good parent and a good husband and a good animal owner, you would be spending your time with THEM rather than having jumped on the computer at 6AM your time this morning.
Sorry for your luck that Topix obviously IS your life.
Gotta go- I prefer to LIVE life with Topix as an aside rather than the main thrust of why I get up in the morning- as is the case with YOU.
Toodles!
That was "quick"?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#620217 Apr 27, 2013
OCB wrote:

RR- you stated that it's okay to spank a 6 month old baby if they are interrupting Mommy and Daddy's quiet dinner by crying for no discernible reason- other than your interpretation that they are being "manipulative".
So if you never spanked a 6 month old baby for crying, just why DID you spank a 6 month old baby?
I've never had to do that, it was an example.

But in that example, spamming the kid wasn't about his crying, it was about teaching a lesson and to learn how to not be rude.

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