“Ditat Deus”

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#620213 Apr 27, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>No, hitting a child for crying seems to be a difficult concept for "lefties."
And a difficult concept for me - as I don't condone spanking a child simply for crying.
Remember, I'm not a "lefty." I'm not a big fan of the partisan bickering that the right vs. left dichotomy creates in this country. It's a great way to keep people distracted from the issues that actually matter. Case in point - you consider a plastic tax more important than the patriot act, simply because of your knee jerk reaction against anything on the "left."
I never understood why you people hate the PATRIOT act so much.

It's not like "big brother" can or will eavesdrop on every little phone call. If they wanted to, they still needed permission form a judge after they've shown some reason to think you are a suspected terrorist. That's bad?

I don't consider the plastic bag tax "more important" than the PATRIOT act, I never siad that or anything close to it, you're asserting now.

“Ditat Deus”

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#620214 Apr 27, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>
so you are against the gov't denying us our rights...
Yes.
so you are against outlawing drugs, after all we should be free to put anything we want into our bodies...it doesn't affect anyone else
No.
euthanasia should also be legal
Yes.
abortion should be unrestricted and legal
Yes.
finally something we can agree on
Finally....
Anon

Lakewood, OH

#620215 Apr 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Ahahahahaha!
Did you get rich?
No, but the new clubs I bought from the transaction really improved my back nine...

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#620216 Apr 27, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>Just a quick "drive-by" for me today....
RR- you stated that it's okay to spank a 6 month old baby if they are interrupting Mommy and Daddy's quiet dinner by crying for no discernible reason- other than your interpretation that they are being "manipulative".
So if you never spanked a 6 month old baby for crying, just why DID you spank a 6 month old baby?
What was the 6 month old baby doing that couldn't be prevented by any number of other ways other than hitting them?
What kind of ADULT are you that you DO allow babies to control you by being totally at your wit's end as to how to keep them from doing something you don't want them to do other than by hitting them?
And yeah- you DID say it's okay to spank a 6 month old baby for crying.
Now you're attempting to back pedal and as always, failing miserably in your attempt.
I don't CARE if someone has kids or not; that is NOT the issue.
The issue is to whether or not it's right or wrong to use corporal punishment on a 6 month old baby.
It's WRONG. Period.
And our LAWS are wrong in that regard as well. It is against the law to hit a spouse, a stranger, someone else's child, etc.
But there are NO laws to protect babies and children from their own parents unless it is a question of visible abuse.
Sorry, RR- just because you might not leave bruises or welts on the tender tushie of a 6 month old baby does not mean that to strike a 6 month old baby is NOT abuse. It IS.
I don't expect you to agree given how you are so totally lacking in that which can logically be defined as true moral fiber.
Nothing is right or just about hitting babies. And just because you are a parent, that does not mean you are a GOOD parent or that you are even QUALIFIED to be a parent.
Based on what you've posted here about your child-rearing, you DO fit the definition of what is an UNFIT parent.
Speaking of parenting, enjoy your weekend in front of your computer rather than spending this time with your SONS.
PS- I told my man about your remark about my breath yesterday- when you said after throwing up in my mouth a little it probably smelled better than it had in a month- he found that to be VERY funny- completely untrue, but humorous nonetheless.
And if you truly were a good parent and a good husband and a good animal owner, you would be spending your time with THEM rather than having jumped on the computer at 6AM your time this morning.
Sorry for your luck that Topix obviously IS your life.
Gotta go- I prefer to LIVE life with Topix as an aside rather than the main thrust of why I get up in the morning- as is the case with YOU.
Toodles!
That was "quick"?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#620217 Apr 27, 2013
OCB wrote:

RR- you stated that it's okay to spank a 6 month old baby if they are interrupting Mommy and Daddy's quiet dinner by crying for no discernible reason- other than your interpretation that they are being "manipulative".
So if you never spanked a 6 month old baby for crying, just why DID you spank a 6 month old baby?
I've never had to do that, it was an example.

But in that example, spamming the kid wasn't about his crying, it was about teaching a lesson and to learn how to not be rude.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#620218 Apr 27, 2013
OCB wrote:

Speaking of parenting, enjoy your weekend in front of your computer rather than spending this time with your SONS.

And if you truly were a good parent and a good husband and a good animal owner, you would be spending your time with THEM rather than having jumped on the computer at 6AM your time this morning.
Then it'll break your heart to know that I'm not on a computer and I'm not even at home, I'm at work.

My boys are likely still sleeping, as it's Saturday and it's 8AM.

So my time on Topix has nothing to do with my time with my boys.

Your ASSumptions are wrong yet again.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#620219 Apr 27, 2013
Anon wrote:
<quoted text>
No, but the new clubs I bought from the transaction really improved my back nine...
Nice. Good call.

PLUS you can use them to "correct" your wife - as needed.

Since: Sep 11

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#620220 Apr 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
OK, that's a nice opinion.
It's funny how atheists always think themselves smarter amd superior to us lowly theists.
Of course without any reason, logic, or evidence...
<quoted text>
HA! You did not just go there, did you?
The founding fathers wanted the separation so they'd be free to practice their religion.
They held Congress in a church, wanna go back to that?
<quoted text>
"shouldn't be"? Why not? It's not illegal...
<quoted text>
No, but I wouldn't persecute it either. If that's what the majority wants, so be it.
<quoted text>
I absolutely is an attack on religion. It absolutely is discrimination. It absolutely is bigotry.
But I see your thinking - as long as it's pointed towards religion or a religious symbo, that's ok.
<quoted text>
It has nothing to do with frailty, it has to do with respect - a trait atheists just won't grasp.(as that sentence showed)
<quoted text>
LOL, you consider that discrimination? That a man, a "pundit" is voicing his opinion?
Whouldn't you just love it if we all shut the hell up? Oh well...
Or we can do it your way; "It is not "our" fault that your faith in atheism is so fragile that it depends on public opinions agreeing with you."
I didn't say atheists were smarter than theiests, I said that we don't believe in a god that needs to be propped up by social validation. That's a fact. It is also a fact that the god described by the bible contradicts logic, reason, and evidence. This is why religious belief would be considered a delusion if it weren't socially validated. My lack of belief, on the other hand, requires no social input. It is the default position.

It doesn't matter what the motivations of the founders were (and in fact, I'm sure you know that there is some debate as to the extent of the founder's religiousity.. besides the point though), it matters what they wrote in to law.

So, it's discrimination to attempt to ensure that the state does not appear to favor one religion over any other, but it's not discrimination when a prominent politician blames school shootings on "a lack of god?" And what makes you think that if it's called an "opinion" it's not bigotry or discrimination? If I say "black people are criminals, but that's just my opinion," is that cool?

You really do have a persecution complex - you are a white male who belongs to the majority religion, and you still think you are being discriminated against. The person who wanted to remove your beloved cross was not bigoted against you. He wanted to remove the appearance of state sponsored religion.

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#620221 Apr 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Based on your comments about babies, I assume you don't have any.
You can't learn how the raise a child by reading a book.
Try living with one for years and years and years.
Then add another one and start all over.
You tend to learn quite a bit.
And I've learned not to take child rearing advice or opinion from anyone that doesn['t have kids. They're always wrong.
I'm not giving you advice, I am telling you that babies do not think like adults. You are projecting all sorts of behaviors and emotions on to them. It's absurd that you actually think your baby saw you getting ready to go out, then chose that time to "manipulate you by crying for "no reason." For what reason? To spoil your dinner? Because it was jealous it wasn't getting attention and you guys were having fun? That's not how they think. Their actions are based on avoiding punishment. If they do something, no matter *why* they do it (ignoring the fact that babies do not consciously think 'I need to burp, time to cry), they will fear repeating that action if they are punished for it.

Since: Sep 11

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#620222 Apr 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
We did?
huh....
I thought we were killing our known enemies.
But ok.
Yeah. Our "known enemies" being a rag tag, highly mobile, stateless, global network, of course the logical course of action was to decimate the country they happened to be operating out of at the time. Oh, and we had to invade the country that we were told had "helped" them and had WMDs. And then stay there long after we had any good reason to do so, killing hundreds of thousands of civilians in the process. And then after we got the big bad, we decided to stick around even longer.

And let's not forget that our enemy is terrorism itself. How do we defeat an ism? An idea?

Since: Sep 11

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#620223 Apr 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
And a difficult concept for me - as I don't condone spanking a child simply for crying.
<quoted text>
I never understood why you people hate the PATRIOT act so much.
It's not like "big brother" can or will eavesdrop on every little phone call. If they wanted to, they still needed permission form a judge after they've shown some reason to think you are a suspected terrorist. That's bad?
I don't consider the plastic bag tax "more important" than the PATRIOT act, I never siad that or anything close to it, you're asserting now.
If you don't understand why people dislike the patriot act, then you don't understand the patriot act.

And they don't need permission for wiretaps. And the wiretaps are just one small problem with it. One of the worst things, in my mind, is the precedent it sets and the attitude of complacency it's presence has cultivated - most people have an opinion towards it similar to yours.

“Truth is beyond wavelength ”

Since: Jan 11

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#620224 Apr 27, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>WTFFFF... I just tryped out a long ass response to this and then I hit post.. and it redirected me back to the home page and when I tried to go back to salvage it the webpage had expired.. Fuck.. I'm not doing that again right now.. I'll re type it in a little while.
That's what happens when you spend too much time in the comment box; the page expires. You have to copy it (control c) or type it in "Microsoft Word" and then transfer it to the comment box (copy and paste; Control c to copy and then control v to paste).

“Truth is beyond wavelength ”

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#620225 Apr 27, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
No particle is really a particle.
They are positive mass with zero volume. They are energy.
That's why their masses are referred to in electron volts.
But thank you again for you infinite patience in dealing with us morons.
Your care, understanding and tolerance for those of us so far beneath you is truly inspiring.
Call it whatever you want bonehead. "Positive mass" is something and it cannot come from nothing. No one can prove that anything comes from nothing, rather than simply changing forms from something undetectable to something detectable. I'm waiting for your proof, anytime will do, never too soon.

“Truth is beyond wavelength ”

Since: Jan 11

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#620226 Apr 27, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, I know that virtual particles do not come from nothing. I did not say that. I said "pop into existence," which is a common way to refer to it. They are borrowed energy.
I do like how you assumed all that from a one off comment I made just so that you could preemptively argue with a position that I never took. That was fun.
Well you didn't clarify that. All you did was say they pop into existence. That implies 'coming from nothing'. What else should I think? Especially when you clearly aren't a scientist yourself.

So then what was your point of saying that if they indeed don't come from nothing? How does that help your position that molecules ever became aware of themselves?

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#620227 Apr 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
I've never had to do that, it was an example.
But in that example, spamming the kid wasn't about his crying, it was about teaching a lesson and to learn how to not be rude.
Stopping by quickly again- and yes- the first time today WAS quick.

I guess that's because I type very quickly and can think very quickly and on my feet as well.

That earlier post took me all of two minutes- and yes, two minutes is "quickly".

You are a HOOT! Teaching a 6 month old baby how not to be "rude"??

You actually think a 6 month old baby has any conception of what rudeness is or that they should?

And the only "lesson" a 6 month old baby who is crying might learn from being spanked is that there is something wrong for doing what comes naturally to babies- that being CRYING.

You really are a sick piece of work.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#620228 Apr 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Then it'll break your heart to know that I'm not on a computer and I'm not even at home, I'm at work.
My boys are likely still sleeping, as it's Saturday and it's 8AM.
So my time on Topix has nothing to do with my time with my boys.
Your ASSumptions are wrong yet again.
Amazing- you have a "job" during the week that is of so little consequence or importance that you're on Topix all week long and they need you to work on the weekends as well??

How much "nothing" can a person do in a week's time? Your job is obviously a joke and not much of a job at all.

Okay....so your sons are asleep- your wife and all of your animals are asleep too???

I guess it doesn't matter if you really are at work, but given how much time you are on Topix during the week, it would actually make sense for your employer to CUT your hours- not increase them.

Then again, I have trouble believing 99.99% of what you say about anything and everything anyway, so.....whatever.

“THE LORD IS MY SHEPHERD;”

Since: Apr 09

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#620229 Apr 27, 2013
saidI wrote:
<quoted text>
Why, when religion is a fantastic way to control people would they want to disprove God?
If I want to control people I'd leave them to believe, and just change the bible here and there to suit, have the religious leaders feed the people what I want.
If deceitful people and governments want to control people they do not want us to be roaming around, with the freedom to think for ourselves.
Huh?

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#620230 Apr 27, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>If you don't understand why people dislike the patriot act, then you don't understand the patriot act.
And they don't need permission for wiretaps. And the wiretaps are just one small problem with it. One of the worst things, in my mind, is the precedent it sets and the attitude of complacency it's presence has cultivated - most people have an opinion towards it similar to yours.
What RR and many others don't get is that it is the PRINCIPLE of the Patriot Act which is a big part of why it is a blatant violation of our rights as Americans.

I've had people ask me why it bothered me- that I must have something to hide when the fact is nothing could be further from the truth.

So what they are missing is the principle of the issue; not having anything to hide doesn't equate to it being okay for our privacy to be invaded.

And- while RR attempted to mock the following quote, it is as true now as when the words were first spoken.

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

-Benjamin Franklin

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#620231 Apr 27, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>Stopping by quickly again- and yes- the first time today WAS quick.
I guess that's because I type very quickly and can think very quickly and on my feet as well.
That earlier post took me all of two minutes- and yes, two minutes is "quickly".
You are a HOOT! Teaching a 6 month old baby how not to be "rude"??
You actually think a 6 month old baby has any conception of what rudeness is or that they should?
And the only "lesson" a 6 month old baby who is crying might learn from being spanked is that there is something wrong for doing what comes naturally to babies- that being CRYING.
You really are a sick piece of work.
No, you don't literally teach a baby how not to be rude. They have no concept of it.

But you gotta start sometime. The younger you start training them, the better person they'll turn out to be.

It's because of people like you that don't discipline your children that we hear about all these "monster teenagers".

My boys are teens and they're very respectful and kind.

As a non-parent, you're ignorant about raising kids.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#620232 Apr 27, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>Amazing- you have a "job" during the week that is of so little consequence or importance that you're on Topix all week long and they need you to work on the weekends as well??
How much "nothing" can a person do in a week's time? Your job is obviously a joke and not much of a job at all.
Okay....so your sons are asleep- your wife and all of your animals are asleep too???
I guess it doesn't matter if you really are at work, but given how much time you are on Topix during the week, it would actually make sense for your employer to CUT your hours- not increase them.
Then again, I have trouble believing 99.99% of what you say about anything and everything anyway, so.....whatever.
You don't believe me?!?

Oh no!

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