"We turned on eachother and allowed the government and the media to instill paranoia and fear in us all"<quoted text>I didn't imply that - there were two parts of my statement - "pillaging other countries" and "removing our freedoms in the name of freedom."
And the patriot act was totally about taking away our freedoms. Terrorism is not something that can be "fought," that's absurd, you can't go to war with a concept or a method. The best way to "defend" against terrorism is to refuse to be terrorized, which we failed at miserably. We turned on eachother and allowed the government and the media to instill paranoia and fear in us all, so that they could have their wars and force their ridiculous legislation on to the populace. And in fact, they took advantage of the fear so well that people like you actually asked for their freedoms to be taken away - you, a so called "conservative" who sees no problem with letting the government have unprecedented power to spy, arrest, torture, and otherwise trample our freedoms under the guise of "security."
Did "we" do that?
'cuz I remember quite differently.