Prove there's a god.

OCB

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Orlando but NYC born & raised

#619584 Apr 25, 2013
Huh wrote:
<quoted text>The guy claims to be a family man but sits on Topix 24/7. Some family.
Yep- on average, he posts 2,200 times a MONTH, which on average and using just 20 days of the month he posts 110 times per day.

Of course, he is here quite often on the weekends as well, which then works out to about 73 posts per day- either way, he is stealing from his employer and/or cheating his family out of that precious "quality time".

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#619585 Apr 25, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>I know that atheist websites like to boast about inconsistencies in the bible, but there are none.
Now THAT is some serious self delusion.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#619586 Apr 25, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
Now THAT is some serious self delusion.
I find such statements as that one made by RR to be nothing short of amazing in how delusional such statements are.

Those who have made it their life's work to study the bible would never make such an erroneous and irresponsible claim.

In fact, that is basically the crux of what biblical scholars do- pore over and sift through the incredible number of inconsistencies and contradictions in the bible.

But RR knows better than those who know the bible from front to back, back to front and everything in between and who have read it and re-read it countless times.

The bible has more inconsistencies and contradictions in it than does any other book of fairy tales, parables or myths.

OCB

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Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#619587 Apr 25, 2013
Huh wrote:
<quoted text>And with the difference in size, there is no difference. Spanking a baby. You should be incarcerated.
6 month old babies don't throw tantrums.

6 month old babies don't "plot" and "plan" how to disrupt mommy and daddy having a quiet dinner together.

6 month old babies cry because that's what babies do and often for no discernible reason at all.

Babies can even have headaches but of course, have no way of communicating that or anything else that might be ailing them or bothering them but which there is nothing a parent could be able to determine once the diaper's been checked, the baby has been fed, etc.

And some babies are simply colicky or could have gas they can't pass.

But RR prefers to think that 6 month old babies "plot" and "plan" in their bid to get attention.

And even if that WAS the case, his solution is to HIT a BABY because the baby is, in his moronic opinion, doing something "wrong"??

What is wrong is that there is something very seriously wrong with ANYONE who would hit/spank a 6 month old BABY for ANY reason at all.

There is no justification for what can be termed as nothing other than what it is: CHILD ABUSE.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#619588 Apr 25, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
I know that atheist websites like to boast about inconsistencies in the bible, but there are none.
Just to get you started:

1. Jesus' lineage was traced through David's son Solomon. Mt.1:6.
Jesus' lineage was traced through David's son Nathan. Lk.3:31.

The announcement of the special birth came before conception. Lk.1:26-31.
The announcement of the special birth came after conception. Mt.1:18-21.
Jesus' parents were told of their son's future greatness. Mt.1:18-21; Lk.1:28-35.
Jesus' parents knew nothing of their son's potential. Lk.2:48-50.
The angel told Joseph. Mt.1:20.
The angel told Mary. Lk.1:28.
There were 28 generations from David to Jesus. Mt.1:17.
There were 43 generations from David to Jesus. Lk.3:23-31.
Jacob was Joseph's father. Mt.1:16.
Heli was Joseph's father. Lk.3:23.
He was to be called Emmanuel. Mt.1:23.
He was called Jesus. Mt.1:25.
Joseph, Mary, and Jesus flee to Egypt while Herod slaughters all males under 2 years old. Mt.2:13-16.(Note: Jesus' cousin, John, was also under 2 and survived without having to flee.)
Joseph, Mary, and Jesus did not flee to Egypt, but remained for temple rituals. No slaughter of infants is mentioned! Lk.2:21-39.
Jesus was tempted during the 40 days in the wilderness. Mk.1:13.
Jesus was tempted after the 40 days in the wilderness. Mt.4:2,3.
The devil first took Jesus to the pinnacle, then to the mountain top. Mt.4:5-8.
The devil first took Jesus to the mountain top, then to the pinnacle. Lk.4:5-9.
Satan tempted Jesus. Mt.4:1-10; Mk.1:13; Lk.4:1,2.
Satan had no interest in Jesus. Jn.14:30.
The baptism of Jesus was with the "Holy Ghost". Mk.1:8; Jn.1:33.
Fire was also added to the baptism. Mt.3:11; Lu.3:16.
John knew of Jesus before he baptized him. Mt.3:11-13; Jn.1:28,29.
John knew nothing of Jesus at all. Mt.11:1-3.
Jesus begins his ministry after John's arrest. Mk.1:13,14.
Jesus begins his ministry before John's arrest. Jn.3:22-24.
It is recorded that Jesus saw the spirit descending. Mt.3:16; Mk.1:10.
It is recorded that John saw the spirit descending. Jn.1:32.
The heavenly voice addressed the gathering. Mt.3:17.
The heavenly voice addressed Jesus. Mk.1:11; Lk.3:22.
Immediately after the baptism, Jesus spent 40 days in the wilderness. Mt.4:1,2; Mk.1:12,13.
Three days after the baptism, Jesus was at the wedding in Cana. Jn.2:1.
Jesus went to Bethphage and the Mt. of Olives, then left for Bethany. Mt.21:1,17.
Jesus went to Bethphage and Bethany at the Mt. of Olives. Mk.11:1; Lk.19:29.
Jesus went to Bethany and then Jerusalem. Jn.12:1,12.
Jesus and his disciples taught in Capernaum. Mk.1:20,21.
Only Jesus taught in Capernaum. Lk.4:30,31.
Peter was chosen, with Andrew, by the Sea of Galilee. Mt.4:18-20; Mk.1:16-18.
Peter was chosen, with James and John, by the lake of Gennesaret. Lk.5:2-11.
Andrew chose Jesus and then got Peter to join. Jn.1:35-42.
Peter was to preach to the Jews. Mt.10:2,5,6; Gal.2:7.
Peter was to preach to the Gentiles. Acts 15:7.
Jesus cured Simon Peter's mother-in-law after he cleansed the leper. Mt.8:1-15.
Jesus cured Simon Peter's mother-in-law before he cleansed the leper. Mk.1:30-42; Lk.4:38 to 5:13.
Peter's mother-in-law was healed before Peter was called to be a disciple. Lu.4:38,39; 5:10.
Peter's mother-in-law was healed after Peter was called to be a disciple. Mt.4:18,19; 8:14,15; Mk.1:16,17,30,31.
James and John were with Jesus when he healed Simon Peter's mother-in-law. Mk.1:29-31.
James and John were not with Jesus when he healed Simon Peter's mother-in-law. Lu.4:38,39; 5:10,11.

RR, you have no more ever read the bible than you have ever read any other book in your life.

If you had actually ever read the bible, you would not say there are no inconsistencies in it.

“Truth is beyond wavelength ”

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#619589 Apr 25, 2013
Huh wrote:
<quoted text>Define "fundamental force". Gravity was explained by The Most Dishonorable Reverend Ted Haggard (R-Sodom). It is intelligent falling. When an object is above ground, angels force it to the Earth's surface at 9.8 meters per second, squared. Like when those people were forced to jump from the World Trade Center. Angels gleefully thrust them to the ground to be smashed to pieces. Angels love some smashing. It's in the book!
Uh, why would angels need wings, anyway. Hmmmm, more bullshirt.
You're mistaking me for being religious; I'm not. I'm not believing anything specific about "God", just that there is some sort of higher power. I don't "worship" but I remain humble. Why is that bad? You think pompousness is a good position?

I don't take the Bible as the word of God. And I agree that angels shouldn't need wings. I've never seen an angel with or without wings. But I believe that consciousness is eternal; well, the part of consciousness that we experience in the present (minus memory), our 'sense of being'.

“Truth is beyond wavelength ”

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#619590 Apr 25, 2013
Huh wrote:
Consciousness does not currently have a definable "origin", which is a ridiculous question to begin with. But, for you to answer, well then, Goddidit, is the classic argument from ignorance. A huge logical fallacy.
and
Aerobatty wrote:
And you don't know how awareness arose either.

It may just be that that is one of those things we will never completely understand.

If you can explain it, then by all means publish a paper.

You'll get a Nobel for sure
Thank you two for making my point. Obviously you have not been following what has been exchanged. I am claiming that no one can know, and that includes me. The morons that are arguing with me are claiming that it is more probable that the origins of awareness/consciousness are molecular rather than quantum. And they have nothing at all to stand on to make such a claim. You are attacking the wrong guy.

The quantum state is the most fundamental state and is associated with everything in existence whereas molecules are not. So why would any moron claim it is more probable that groups of molecules became aware, from a state of non-awareness nonetheless? That's like saying something can come from nothing.

My speculation is that consciousness 'always was' as a product of the quantum state. I'm not saying my speculation is any more probable than theirs. Time they humble themselves as well. Wouldn't you say?

“Truth is beyond wavelength ”

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#619591 Apr 25, 2013
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>This conversation reminds me of this article I read a couple years ago.
http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2011/01/...
It seems so strange that a single cell has a sense (of sorts) of time passing. One suspects that this could *possibly*(since we're talking *possibilities*) reflect a quantum source of *memory* or consciousness too.
Rhythms and reflexes. Kinda like when these guys can't acknowledge the truth where it hinders their mission, they have to barf all over the screen as a distraction.

If DNA is not regulating the red blood cells then what is? Of course, we are humble enough to admit that we cannot claim a quantum source for awareness is more probable than a molecular source but we are not among equals; they refuse to admit that same truth.

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#619592 Apr 25, 2013
I wouldn't call them "morons" if they would admit the obvious truth. Actually they are doing it intentionally so they are not morons. Just pompous @$$e$
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#619594 Apr 25, 2013
Huh wrote:
<quoted text>Hahahaha. Another Christian claiming they get it right from Invisible Sky Daddy and all the other Christians get it wrong. A dime a dozen. You vey!
Actually, I'm more Jewish but they would dispute that.

“Ditat Deus”

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#619595 Apr 25, 2013
MisterCharrington wrote:
<quoted text>
...and if they contact you again for more information which basically asks the same questions in a different way...engage counsel and do not reply.
Really? But it's my own insurance company wanting a statement...

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#619596 Apr 25, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>No- there are hundreds of inconsistencies and contradictions in the bible.
http://www.questioningchristian.com/2004/10/t...
http://www.skeptically.org/bible/id6.html
http://christianity.stackexchange.com/questio...
http://www.bcbsr.com/topics/ntprob.html
Please note that at least two of the above websites are CHRISTIAN websites.
Maybe if you had actually ever read the bible, or if you did, if you'd understood what you read, you wouldn't make such an erroneous statement that "there are none".
Inconsistencies and contradictions abound in the bible.
Even biblical scholars would never deny that.
Some people believe there are inconsistencies, usually the biblically ignorant.

“Ditat Deus”

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#619597 Apr 25, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Murder requires a state of mind we call "malice aforethought".
'Requires'?

Does that help determine if the accused committed 'unlawful killing' instead of murder?

OCB

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Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#619598 Apr 25, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Really? But it's my own insurance company wanting a statement...
Tell us again how there are no inconsistencies in the bible, RR.

You are a classic example of someone who is foolish enough to believe that wishing really DOES make it so.

You WISH there were no inconsistencies in the bible, but those more learned than you- as well as those more grounded in reality than you are-know differently.

But really- do try to argue against the FACT that the bible is chock full of inconsistencies and contradictions.

It's amusing when you attempt to argue that which is FACT.

“Ditat Deus”

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#619599 Apr 25, 2013
Huh wrote:
<quoted text>Violence begets violence but hitting a six month old is okay. You're a friggin' nut. There is no fine line. You're right. Hitting is hitting. There is no line at all. A six month old weighs, what, 25 pounds. An average man today weighs 200. Let's go get a 1800 pound man that's 18 feet tall to smack you on the ass and see if you think it's violent. Idiot.
Coward.

Smacking a kid's butt for discipline isn't violent.

Hitting a kid out of anger IS.

You'd be wise to learn the difference.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#619600 Apr 25, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Really? But it's my own insurance company wanting a statement...
They have to determine fault.

“Ditat Deus”

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#619601 Apr 25, 2013
Huh wrote:
Uh, why would angels need wings, anyway. Hmmmm, more bullshirt.
Angels are typically depicted in illustrations of having wings, but that isn't biblical.

Atheists are typically biblically ignorant.

Good job.

OCB

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Since: Apr 12

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#619602 Apr 25, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Some people believe there are inconsistencies, usually the biblically ignorant.
Hasw nothing to do with BELIEF.

The inconsistencies are there and speak for themselves.

AGAIN:

Jesus' lineage was traced through David's son Solomon. Mt.1:6.
Jesus' lineage was traced through David's son Nathan. Lk.3:31.

The announcement of the special birth came before conception. Lk.1:26-31.
The announcement of the special birth came after conception. Mt.1:18-21.

Jesus' parents were told of their son's future greatness. Mt.1:18-21; Lk.1:28-35.
Jesus' parents knew nothing of their son's potential. Lk.2:48-50.

The angel told Joseph. Mt.1:20.
The angel told Mary. Lk.1:28.

There were 28 generations from David to Jesus. Mt.1:17.
There were 43 generations from David to Jesus. Lk.3:23-31.

Jacob was Joseph's father. Mt.1:16.
Heli was Joseph's father. Lk.3:23.

He was to be called Emmanuel. Mt.1:23.
He was called Jesus. Mt.1:25.

Joseph, Mary, and Jesus flee to Egypt while Herod slaughters all males under 2 years old. Mt.2:13-16.(Note: Jesus' cousin, John, was also under 2 and survived without having to flee.)
Joseph, Mary, and Jesus did not flee to Egypt, but remained for temple rituals. No slaughter of infants is mentioned! Lk.2:21-39.

Jesus was tempted during the 40 days in the wilderness. Mk.1:13.
Jesus was tempted after the 40 days in the wilderness. Mt.4:2,3.

The devil first took Jesus to the pinnacle, then to the mountain top. Mt.4:5-8.
The devil first took Jesus to the mountain top, then to the pinnacle. Lk.4:5-9.

Satan tempted Jesus. Mt.4:1-10; Mk.1:13; Lk.4:1,2.
Satan had no interest in Jesus. Jn.14:30.

The baptism of Jesus was with the "Holy Ghost". Mk.1:8; Jn.1:33.
Fire was also added to the baptism. Mt.3:11; Lu.3:16.

John knew of Jesus before he baptized him. Mt.3:11-13; Jn.1:28,29.
John knew nothing of Jesus at all. Mt.11:1-3.

Jesus begins his ministry after John's arrest. Mk.1:13,14.
Jesus begins his ministry before John's arrest. Jn.3:22-24.

It is recorded that Jesus saw the spirit descending. Mt.3:16; Mk.1:10.
It is recorded that John saw the spirit descending. Jn.1:32.

The heavenly voice addressed the gathering. Mt.3:17.
The heavenly voice addressed Jesus. Mk.1:11; Lk.3:22.

Immediately after the baptism, Jesus spent 40 days in the wilderness. Mt.4:1,2; Mk.1:12,13.
Three days after the baptism, Jesus was at the wedding in Cana. Jn.2:1.

Jesus went to Bethphage and the Mt. of Olives, then left for Bethany. Mt.21:1,17.
Jesus went to Bethphage and Bethany at the Mt. of Olives. Mk.11:1; Lk.19:29.
Jesus went to Bethany and then Jerusalem. Jn.12:1,12.

Jesus and his disciples taught in Capernaum. Mk.1:20,21.
Only Jesus taught in Capernaum. Lk.4:30,31.

Peter was chosen, with Andrew, by the Sea of Galilee. Mt.4:18-20; Mk.1:16-18.
Peter was chosen, with James and John, by the lake of Gennesaret. Lk.5:2-11.
Andrew chose Jesus and then got Peter to join. Jn.1:35-42.

Peter was to preach to the Jews. Mt.10:2,5,6; Gal.2:7.
Peter was to preach to the Gentiles. Acts 15:7.

Jesus cured Simon Peter's mother-in-law after he cleansed the leper. Mt.8:1-15.
Jesus cured Simon Peter's mother-in-law before he cleansed the leper. Mk.1:30-42; Lk.4:38 to 5:13.

Peter's mother-in-law was healed before Peter was called to be a disciple. Lu.4:38,39; 5:10.
Peter's mother-in-law was healed after Peter was called to be a disciple. Mt.4:18,19; 8:14,15; Mk.1:16,17,30,31.

James and John were with Jesus when he healed Simon Peter's mother-in-law. Mk.1:29-31.
James and John were not with Jesus when he healed Simon Peter's mother-in-law. Lu.4:38,39; 5:10,11.

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#619603 Apr 25, 2013
Huh wrote:
<quoted text>There is no debate. Gott mitt Uns. Simple.
Simple answer for you, the simple minded.

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#619604 Apr 25, 2013
Huh wrote:
<quoted text>You're disgusting.
Coming from you, that's a compliment.

Thank you.

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