Prove there's a god.
Anon

Cleveland, OH

#615356 Apr 11, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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More opinion?
More speculation?
More unfounded assertions?
I am gonna go ahead and assume that your opinion is based on your experience with maybe a handful of Christians. If that's so, how could you ever think that you have the knowledge to label Christianity and/or Christians?
I've know nine people in my life who were "born again", and every one of them shared one common trait - they were all at an extremely devastating point in their lives. Be it divorce, death of a loved one, job loss, extramarital affairs, etc., then and only then did they supposedly have god enter their psyche. I have never known anyone that was doing well in life proclaim they were converted to Christianity. Am I speculating? Of course I am. Your case is rather unique to me for the reasons I've just given. I wonder how many other believers parallel your experience?

“Ditat Deus”

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#615357 Apr 11, 2013
Largelanguage wrote:
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So I take it I won?
Won?!

Won what?

“Ditat Deus”

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#615358 Apr 11, 2013
Largelanguage wrote:
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Of course there is nothing wrong with it.
But put it this way, Riverside Redneck said he would tell his children to jump and they wouldn't even ask how high. And he even laughed about it. You're right, nobody is perfect, and some just happen to have zero empathy and other human traits as their flaw, rofl. Don't create peace with him. He's on the same level as these topix atheists.
Why do you have such a problem with children obeying the parent?

What's the deal with that?

“Ditat Deus”

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#615359 Apr 11, 2013
Anon wrote:
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I've know nine people in my life who were "born again", and every one of them shared one common trait - they were all at an extremely devastating point in their lives. Be it divorce, death of a loved one, job loss, extramarital affairs, etc., then and only then did they supposedly have god enter their psyche. I have never known anyone that was doing well in life proclaim they were converted to Christianity. Am I speculating? Of course I am. Your case is rather unique to me for the reasons I've just given. I wonder how many other believers parallel your experience?
Of course neither one of us can answer that. We both are going off of personal experience.

I'm sorry that your only experience with those nine people showed being born again in a negative way to you, or as a last resort to happiness kind of thing.

My experience with it is much different. I've known hundreds of Christians and most of them have a similar story to mine. Very few that I've known seek out God only in times of dispair.

I think that those nine people you've known tried finding God for the wrong reason - they only wanted His help. Based on my experience and knowledge, God doesn't work that way. It's the whole free will thing.
Largelanguage

Wrexham, UK

#615360 Apr 11, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Why do you have such a problem with children obeying the parent?
What's the deal with that?
What sort of parent are you if it is not OK for your kids to ask how high, and other questions when you are telling them to do something?

There is a huge deal with it, and your pathetic excuses without bases of logic don't work.
Largelanguage

Wrexham, UK

#615361 Apr 11, 2013
Anon wrote:
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I've know nine people in my life who were "born again", and every one of them shared one common trait - they were all at an extremely devastating point in their lives. Be it divorce, death of a loved one, job loss, extramarital affairs, etc., then and only then did they supposedly have god enter their psyche. I have never known anyone that was doing well in life proclaim they were converted to Christianity. Am I speculating? Of course I am. Your case is rather unique to me for the reasons I've just given. I wonder how many other believers parallel your experience?
He was raised to be a good little christian boy.
feces for jesus

Brooklyn, NY

#615372 Apr 11, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You wouldn't know. Your athitard buddies stop you from having any other thought than what they have.
You're such a follower.
Typical christard judgement, thinking I'm an atheist because I dont share your POV.
Largelanguage

Wrexham, UK

#615373 Apr 11, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Of course neither one of us can answer that. We both are going off of personal experience.
I'm sorry that your only experience with those nine people showed being born again in a negative way to you, or as a last resort to happiness kind of thing.
My experience with it is much different. I've known hundreds of Christians and most of them have a similar story to mine. Very few that I've known seek out God only in times of dispair.
I think that those nine people you've known tried finding God for the wrong reason - they only wanted His help. Based on my experience and knowledge, God doesn't work that way. It's the whole free will thing.
You were raised to be a good little christian urchin, of course you are different.

“let's do this thang!”

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#615374 Apr 11, 2013
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
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I go with scientific evidence.
So do you -- assuming that when you get sick, you seek the care of a medical SCIENCE doctor.
So be honest with yourself. Even you are aware of the track record of prayer alone.
lol
i don't get sick much these days by the grace of God. but, if & when i do, i'll take a prescription derived from God's green earth and thank Him for it. altho if a 'dr' tried to push an antichrist theory regarding the origin of the universe, i'd tell him to use it for his own colonoscopy;)

“let's do this thang!”

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#615375 Apr 11, 2013
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
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According to the scientific record, I believe its over a billion.
It's amazing how the puzzle fits, if one doesn't rely on willful ignorance to maintain one's delusion.
Ever hear of evolutionary biology?
Look it up. It's going to be a required course in medical schools within a few years. Amazing stuff.
"According to the scientific record"

i didn't know 'scientists' were around and keeping records that long ago! do you have some 'records' from billions of years ago that you read and can show me?

if one of your scientist/prophet/priests told you to 'go jump in a lake of fire', would you do it?

“let's do this thang!”

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#615376 Apr 11, 2013
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>No.
:-(

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#615377 Apr 11, 2013
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text> "Inexistence claims"?
Claims of certainty that God doesn't exist.

“Ditat Deus”

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#615378 Apr 11, 2013
Largelanguage wrote:
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What sort of parent are you if it is not OK for your kids to ask how high, and other questions when you are telling them to do something?
There is a huge deal with it, and your pathetic excuses without bases of logic don't work.
Because being a strong parent is being a good parent. Kids need to learn discipline. Everyone does.

“Ditat Deus”

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#615379 Apr 11, 2013
feces for jesus wrote:
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Typical christard judgement, thinking I'm an atheist because I dont share your POV.
Nope. It's based on your posts and you screen name.

your lack of belief in God is evident.

“Ditat Deus”

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#615380 Apr 11, 2013
Largelanguage wrote:
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You were raised to be a good little christian urchin, of course you are different.
Aw, thanks honey.

hold me.

“I never claimed to be Perfect”

Since: Nov 10

just better than yesterday

#615381 Apr 11, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry, Al. By saying what you say here, would mean that BILLIONS of people who do NOT believe in your Christ can't have a purpose in their lives and that simply is not true.
Are you claiming that CONFUCIUS had no purpose? That Mahatma Gandhi had no purpose? Albert Einstein- no purpose?
Are you trying to claim that the tens of thousands of people throughout history who most definitely DID have a purpose and who fulfilled that purpose but who didn't believe in your Christ were "wrong" and really didn't learn about themselves or know themselves?
You seem to be equating a belief in your Christ with a person's life having validity.
Sorry- I very strongly disagree.
No..... that's not what I was saying.

please read it again

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#615382 Apr 11, 2013
Greens - tuf wrote:
<quoted text> You're right, it's not an easy subject, but we can be civil and share our opinions right?
I will give you my own personal thoughts on consciousness shortly.
I think I was being civil. Note that you will need to provide evidence for your thoughts - no "we haven't solved the hard problem yet, therefore consciousness is immaterial."

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#615383 Apr 11, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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It's no fallacy, it's the truth. Convicts like to make people think they've "found God" in prison. They do this because they think it'll help them in court, with an early release, etc.
I find it off that you "rational" people believe the convicts when they try to say that they're Christian.
I'm suspicious of conversions that take place after incarceration, but what about people who were christian before arrest? Is it not possible to commit a crime while being christian?

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#615384 Apr 11, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Nope. I'll freeze to death first.
Really? You need to become more comfortable with your sexuality, bro.

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#615385 Apr 11, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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No. It's selfish to think that "finding yourself" is the most important thing you can do.
I consider finding yourself to be a very important a selfless action. It doesn't mean "figuring out what you like," it means, to me, learning your place and purpose in the world and deciding how you can best share yourself with others.

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