Prove there's a god.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#614174 Apr 7, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>OMFG. A rejection. Of the belief. In the existence. Of deities. Not "rejection of the possibility of existence," rejection of belief in existence. What in the world do you mean "Rejection of belief in the existence of, not rejection of belief?"
OMFG is right!

What is wrong with you?

Atheists reject the belief in the existence of deities. Period.

There's no maybe, coulda, woulda, shoulda..

You believe there *may* be a god.

You are not an atheist.

Since: Jul 10

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#614175 Apr 7, 2013
Tehee Candor wrote:
We can't prove there is a GOD outside our own Faith.
You can't prove without a doubt there in No GOD?
Push and Pull
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =R-UGuoMwj6QXX&playnext=1 &list=PL74FBA488E3F62068 &feature=results_main
Never heard that one ^^^^ Enjoy the next one and I hope you will.:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Rufus!!! <3
4446 *dang, wish I was in Aces High*
We can't prove at all that there is no god, but if a God exists and you know it exists then it seems to stand to reason that you can prove that existence. Otherwise why would so many people place so much faith in something that there is not one iota of proof of?

Is it possible that 2 billion (speaking of currently), or more if we include Muslims who also believe in the same God, could all be duped by frauds of long ago, and if so why? In the case of Christians, is the only reason for maintaining a belief for nearly 2000 years fear of eternal torture, and why would a God, who expects to be loved, demand belief or He will torture us?

To me that sounds like a Mafia enforcer who comes to your business and says he wants a percentage of all your business income or he knows where your family lives, and if you want them to stay healthy you will pay him what he asks for.

I have a friend who had that proposal put to him by Mafia, but because one of them was a childhood friend of his, they let him off the hook when he refused to comply with their demands.

Yet not one person on this site, nor one person in the whole history of human beings, as far as we can know from history, has ever proved the existence of any of the many gods that man has worshiped since man first walked on this earth.

What about a god makes man do what he would not do in any other situation, believe the unbelievable? Is is terror or is it true worship of the unknown?

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#614176 Apr 7, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>I never really saw water turn to ice either.
"A watched water never freezes"

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#614177 Apr 7, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>So... what's your point? You accept that evolution occurs, but you deny the evidence that shows how it occurs? What's your answer, goddidit?
ToE is based on the assumption that all life evolved from one life, the universal common ancestor.

If that's not an assumption, demonstrate otherwise.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#614178 Apr 7, 2013
Clementia wrote:
<quoted text>
Where on earth have u been?
U were meant to help me with my coursework!!
HELP!!! PLEASE!!!
Sorry, Clem. That's kinda beyond me.

Since: Oct 12

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#614179 Apr 7, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry, Clem. That's kinda beyond me.
That's OK, If i don't figure it out in my sleep, i'm just gonna make an educated guess.
nurface

Somerset, KY

#614180 Apr 7, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>No.
Atheism is not a belief.
It's a conclusion.
Based on what?

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#614181 Apr 7, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
No.
Atheism is not a belief.
It's a conclusion.
nurface wrote:
Based on what?
Assumptions.
nurface

Somerset, KY

#614182 Apr 7, 2013
Clementia wrote:
<quoted text>
U haven't, but scientists have! It can me tested in a lab!
BUT NO SCIENTIST HAS EVER SEEN ONE SPECIES TURNING INTO ANOTHER!
Darwin did,, he ate some shroons and drawed them on a piece of paper, LOL,,,
Buzz

Knoxville, TN

#614183 Apr 7, 2013
Apocalypse666 wrote:
No the point was prove it to be fact.
I believe there is no god because common sense dictates there isn't one.
So if it is a fact then prove it.
Saying you have to believe is no different than Santa Clause.
So prove that god is real and is a factual being.
If he is real then you can prove it.
If he is not then you cannot prove it.
If a man could give you absolutely proof that God exists, man would have to be supernaturally enlightened or empowered to do so.
Jesus told his disciple that it was good that he had actually seen him in his resurrected body and believed He was God. He emphasized to him that those who don't see all he had seen and yet believe anyway are even more blessed.
If you have never seen or heard anything that would seem evidence to you that there is a God, it isn't because He hasn't made Himself known to you. It is because you have refused to see. You are of all men most miserable, and don't even see that.
There are not only the blind who lead others who are blind, the blind seem to want everyone to be blind. Don't try to discourage those who do see and believe, just because you have chosen to be blind. You cannot prove God does not exist!
You only prove the old saying "misery loves company."
Buzz

Knoxville, TN

#614184 Apr 7, 2013
boooots wrote:
<quoted text>
We can't prove at all that there is no god, but if a God exists and you know it exists then it seems to stand to reason that you can prove that existence. Otherwise why would so many people place so much faith in something that there is not one iota of proof of?
Is it possible that 2 billion (speaking of currently), or more if we include Muslims who also believe in the same God, could all be duped by frauds of long ago, and if so why? In the case of Christians, is the only reason for maintaining a belief for nearly 2000 years fear of eternal torture, and why would a God, who expects to be loved, demand belief or He will torture us?
To me that sounds like a Mafia enforcer who comes to your business and says he wants a percentage of all your business income or he knows where your family lives, and if you want them to stay healthy you will pay him what he asks for.
I have a friend who had that proposal put to him by Mafia, but because one of them was a childhood friend of his, they let him off the hook when he refused to comply with their demands.
Yet not one person on this site, nor one person in the whole history of human beings, as far as we can know from history, has ever proved the existence of any of the many gods that man has worshiped since man first walked on this earth.
What about a god makes man do what he would not do in any other situation, believe the unbelievable? Is is terror or is it true worship of the unknown?
Why are you so intent on convincing others that something you believe does not exist does not exist. You are the one looking for something to prove your unbelief. Why does the fact that so many people can "know" something you have no interest in knowing bother you so much. It must be a very big deal in your life for you to be so passionate about the existence of God. Maybe that is the proof you are looking for.

Since: Jul 10

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#614185 Apr 7, 2013
Buzz wrote:
<quoted text>
Why are you so intent on convincing others that something you believe does not exist does not exist. You are the one looking for something to prove your unbelief. Why does the fact that so many people can "know" something you have no interest in knowing bother you so much. It must be a very big deal in your life for you to be so passionate about the existence of God. Maybe that is the proof you are looking for.
I have no interest in proving my unbelief, but because of the abuse that I have seen handed out by believers on this site, and my general interest in discussing controversial topics, expecially topics I can't lose in, because the other side has nothing to argue with, I choose to be here. I am also very interested in fighting against some of the blatant bigotry from believers that rears its ugly head here daily.
nurface

Somerset, KY

#614186 Apr 7, 2013
boooots wrote:
<quoted text>
We can't prove at all that there is no god, but if a God exists and you know it exists then it seems to stand to reason that you can prove that existence. Otherwise why would so many people place so much faith in something that there is not one iota of proof of?
You have hope boots, i think if you would just ''take off that ''self fabricated blind fold'' you have *chosen* to wear you would see all the proof you need..

For the assertion that “There is no God” is just as much a claim to knowledge as is the assertion that “There is a God.” Therefore, the former assertion requires justification just as the latter does.

So here we are at a ''standoff'' so to speak..

Let me ask you this.. You all see life as a mere accident of a mindless, non rational, purposeless universe ok, so how does any non rational process create mind and rationality?
Is it possible that 2 billion (speaking of currently), or more if we include Muslims who also believe in the same God, could all be duped by frauds of long ago, and if so why? In the case of Christians, is the only reason for maintaining a belief for nearly 2000 years fear of eternal torture, and why would a God, who expects to be loved, demand belief or He will torture us?
To me that sounds like a Mafia enforcer who comes to your business and says he wants a percentage of all your business income or he knows where your family lives, and if you want them to stay healthy you will pay him what he asks for.
I have a friend who had that proposal put to him by Mafia, but because one of them was a childhood friend of his, they let him off the hook when he refused to comply with their demands.
Yet not one person on this site, nor one person in the whole history of human beings, as far as we can know from history, has ever proved the existence of any of the many gods that man has worshiped since man first walked on this earth.
What about a god makes man do what he would not do in any other situation, believe the unbelievable? Is is terror or is it true worship of the unknown?
You ask some good questions, but again there is proof you just fail/reject to acknowledge that proof.

Since: Sep 11

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#614187 Apr 7, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>
Our shoes are merely the vessels for our soles, but they must be protected.
"The flat footed one says in his heart, There is no Arch."
So what happens to those unfortunate few who are born flat footed? Are they doomed?

Tehee Candor

“A Time for laughter and ...”

Since: Apr 13

A Time to be candid.

#614188 Apr 7, 2013
boooots wrote:
<quoted text>
We can't prove at all that there is no god, but if a God exists and you know it exists then it seems to stand to reason that you can prove that existence. Otherwise why would so many people place so much faith in something that there is not one iota of proof of?
Is it possible that 2 billion (speaking of currently), or more if we include Muslims who also believe in the same God, could all be duped by frauds of long ago, and if so why? In the case of Christians, is the only reason for maintaining a belief for nearly 2000 years fear of eternal torture, and why would a God, who expects to be loved, demand belief or He will torture us?
To me that sounds like a Mafia enforcer who comes to your business and says he wants a percentage of all your business income or he knows where your family lives, and if you want them to stay healthy you will pay him what he asks for.
I have a friend who had that proposal put to him by Mafia, but because one of them was a childhood friend of his, they let him off the hook when he refused to comply with their demands.
Yet not one person on this site, nor one person in the whole history of human beings, as far as we can know from history, has ever proved the existence of any of the many gods that man has worshiped since man first walked on this earth.
What about a god makes man do what he would not do in any other situation, believe the unbelievable? Is is terror or is it true worship of the unknown?
Here's a question for you please. How many people do you know that would put their very lives on the line for a lie? JESUS was either what He claimed to be or He was a Blatant liarmouth and people died defending their FAITH. Do you know anything about Daniel? I shall waste no energy entertaining all your questions of disbelief. As I've already stated I have many questions yet myself. Thank You

Since: Sep 11

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#614189 Apr 7, 2013
Clementia wrote:
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What evidence?
I never seen no evidence of evolution taking place!
When has anyone seen one species turn into another species?
Are you trolling me? We don't need to actually witness one species turning into another. Doing so would be basically impossible anyway because evolution takes place over a very long period of time. It would be impossible for me to relay to you the immense amount of evidence for evolution in one topix post, so I recommend going to google and searching "evidence for evolution." That would be a good start.

Tehee Candor

“A Time for laughter and ...”

Since: Apr 13

A Time to be candid.

#614190 Apr 7, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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"A watched water never freezes"
I watched a ridiculous show last evening and it's so ridiculous I shall not mention the name unless really pressed. There was a rich woman who claimed she made a glass refridge and therefore if she wanted to,,,, she could indeed watch that hot water turn to ice. Hmmmm, wonder how long it takes?:)
I am enjoying watching your banter RR and sorry I called you a RN earlier. Haha It's almost Monday,,,, wuuuupie!(not)
nurface

Somerset, KY

#614191 Apr 7, 2013
Buzz wrote:
<quoted text>
Why are you so intent on convincing others that something you believe does not exist does not exist. You are the one looking for something to prove your unbelief. Why does the fact that so many people can "know" something you have no interest in knowing bother you so much. It must be a very big deal in your life for you to be so passionate about the existence of God. Maybe that is the proof you are looking for.
Well said..

Tehee Candor

“A Time for laughter and ...”

Since: Apr 13

A Time to be candid.

#614192 Apr 7, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry, Clem. That's kinda beyond me.
Hello, Thank You for your statement earlier about jumping right in. The water's not bad. ;~) I've had some really slam me in other discussions similar and I've not experienced that yet today. We don't have to banter if we don't wish and I stated, I have not all the answers, but I have Faith in what I believe. I know not yet, what you believe though I look forward to discovering it. Thanks and good night and peace to you and yours.:)

Since: Sep 11

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#614193 Apr 7, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
OMFG is right!
What is wrong with you?
Atheists reject the belief in the existence of deities. Period.
There's no maybe, coulda, woulda, shoulda..
You believe there *may* be a god.
You are not an atheist.
River, you are just being dumb at this point. I guess you just aren't good at reading. "Rejection of belief" means just that - not believing in a deity. I don't reject the possibility altogether because I cannot conclusively rule out the existence of a deity, I simply don't believe in one.

I don't "believe there may be a god," I just assert that given our current knowledge it is impossible to rule a god out, no matter how improbable one may be. I think that quote I cited for you earlier sums up my position nicely - that I am an atheist because the god proposition is so meaningless that it is basically irrelevant, but I am forced to label myself an atheist because modern society assumes a belief in god. If religion weren't so widespread, I would ignore the idea of god altogether, for the same reason you ignore the possibility that your computer is powered by magical pixies - it is so baseless and without evidence that it's futile to even consider it.

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