Prove there's a god.
flup

Wellington, New Zealand

#611703 Mar 22, 2013
boooots wrote:
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Aside from the fact that there are more than 3 times the world population that likely ever existed before, I suspect morally we are better. We know almost instantly today what happens anywhere else in the world, whereas 200 years ago or less, many people likely never heard of events apart from their immediate neighbors. Therefore we have as a total population to account to a lot more people as to how we act than once was the case. Yes we hear about things today that were likely not talked about until very recently, but I doubt that man is any less moral today than he ever was.
About the worst thing a human can do in his lifetime is take the life of another human being who does not want to die at that time. We haven't seemed yet to realize that also applies to wars, because very few countries abstain entirely from wars nowadays. So in that regard we probably have not improved, though looking at the most advanced of the world's countries, today very few of those are fighting each other, whereas they were in most times in history right up until at least WWII.
The fact that man can travel so much easier and faster today means that almost all of the western countries, at least, have people living in them from nearly all other parts of the world, so it becomes more difficult to find a country to pick to fight, because we would be fighting a lot of the relatives of our own citizens. That was a major thing in the two WWs, and it still is to some degree with the Middle East Wars because many people from the countries that the west is fighting in also live in the western countries.
Take a good hard look at just how moral are the world's major religions, especially Christianity and Islam. Yes, some of their rules are very moral but they also still follow extremely immoral laws too; at least the fundamentalists and fanatics of these religions do.
I think man will never be completely moral until he realizes that every other human being has the same worth as he does, and that we should protect the lives of all other humans in the world, to the very best of our abilities.
Well, I believe we are morally bankrupt to a very great degree. You mention wars. Although I (and I believe you also) don't like the idea of wars happening in our world, they ARE a necessary evil. I mean, freedom and democracy are worth fighting for, aren't they?? Good post of yours, boooots.
flup

Wellington, New Zealand

#611704 Mar 22, 2013
boooots wrote:
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You won't have that happen by quoting some man's words written somewhere between 1800 and 2000 years ago. Why not deal with what man can understand rather than what man can imagine? What is wrong with reality?
If you can't bring God down to a worldly understood level then you don't know that God exists. You are just trusting the words of people long dead, who likely were creating texts to suit the new religion they were inventing.
One would expect that considering all of the claims made by believers that at least one of those claims would have been verified to be true, especially today with all the means we have of doing things, yet there is still not even one claim of any religion that has been proved, other than the claims that don't require miracles, supernatural events, or invisible deities.
I know we theists cannot prove (i.e. your definition of proof) that God exists. One just has to have faith in the existence of God. Purely on one's own faith.
flup

Wellington, New Zealand

#611705 Mar 22, 2013
boooots wrote:
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Your explanation, which I have heard dozens of times, is man's rationalization of why God does not appear to be all powerful. Why do men have to constantly create excuses for a god that no man knows even exists?
Well, like it or don't, God will prove Himself to be all-powerful one day. Then we'll all know He exists (wink!wink!).
Ex-Christians are bigots

Birmingham, AL

#611706 Mar 22, 2013
Doctor REALITY wrote:
There is no further need to PROVE that God is REAL. The REAL problem for atheists that they BLATANTLY 'CHOOSE' to remain BLIND and IGNORANT.
Extremely well said. Atheists have a big problem.
flup

Wellington, New Zealand

#611707 Mar 22, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> The last days of what? Your prophecy of impending doom and the Jewish conquest of Babylon bull crap? Sell your computer and go buy a clue, because you don't have one.
Oh the end is nigh! in 1 or two years , or 10 or a hundred, or hundreds or thousands,or tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands.
Or... a million or two , or ten million or 100 mill, but soon huh?
MEE DUZZ NOTT HAVS CLOO!! MEE DUZZ NOTT HAVS CLOO!! HA!!HA!!HA!!HA!!HA!! Actually, a MILLION YEARS from NOW IS SOON, according to you atheists and evos (everything is RELATIVE, right??). I mean YOUR side of the coin says that the universe has existed for BILLIONS OF YEARS!! So yeah, He's coming..........soon!!
Ex-Christians are bigots

Birmingham, AL

#611708 Mar 22, 2013
flup wrote:
<quoted text> Well, like it or don't, God will prove Himself to be all-powerful one day. Then we'll all know He exists (wink!wink!).
The anger of atheists is a precursor to the proof that God does exist. They look foolish as they prove that which they say doesn't exist.
youtube

AOL

#611709 Mar 22, 2013
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100% PROOF Pope Francis is ANTICHRIST_______




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Since: Aug 12

Adana, Turkey

#611710 Mar 22, 2013
Prove for God ???

Kill yourself and see with your own eyes

:)

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#611711 Mar 22, 2013
B_Girl_Turco wrote:
Prove for God ???
Kill yourself and see with your own eyes
:)

But your afterwards holding of a seance to find the answer,
are less than "conclusive" in the resulting determination.

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#611712 Mar 22, 2013
flup wrote:
<quoted text> MEE DUZZ NOTT HAVS CLOO!! MEE DUZZ NOTT HAVS CLOO!! HA!!HA!!HA!!HA!!HA!! Actually, a MILLION YEARS from NOW IS SOON, according to you atheists and evos (everything is RELATIVE, right??). I mean YOUR side of the coin says that the universe has existed for BILLIONS OF YEARS!! So yeah, He's coming..........soon!!
You should be able to pin it down to 150,000 possible dates within the next 65,000 years.
youtube

AOL

#611713 Mar 22, 2013
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2013 New WORLD RECORD --- 7 BILLION FOOLED

http://youtu.be/Yz6SgHc4fjA

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“I never claimed to be Perfect”

Since: Nov 10

just better than yesterday

#611714 Mar 22, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Um, no, religion was a pacifier, just like the plastic ones we give infants, and nothing more. For a time when people had to toil their entire days just to survive, it placated them enough so they could toil without worrying about actual answers. Now we no longer have to toil all day, we have time to seek real answers instead of taking some made up non-answer like "god." In short, it's time we discard childish things.
I don't feel that a belief in God gives me a false sense of security. Quite the opposite, I find that it gives me guidance, a positiveness of things to come. It allows me the opportunity of reflection, introspection. The ability to see the beauty from the largest of things to the littlest of creation even through the ugliness of what human kind can produce.
But then again, what to you is the feeling of security? Does that insecurity cause you to disapprove or belittle those that are secure?
Religion is not security. Security is just a state of mind. You could have God, the best locks, Seal Team Six next door, but if you are insecure in your mind, then nothing will ever pacify you. Nothing.
Please don't project any insecurities if that is indeed what you are doing.
I believe that it takes courage through faith sometimes to let go.
That doesn't sound like the mark of a weak person that needs a pacifier.

“Timshel”

Since: Jan 12

Tulsa, OK

#611715 Mar 22, 2013
Al Garcia wrote:
<quoted text>I believe that it takes courage through faith sometimes to let go.
I believe it takes more courage to look within and to simply ask why.

“I never claimed to be Perfect”

Since: Nov 10

just better than yesterday

#611716 Mar 22, 2013
_Jusayin_ wrote:
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I believe it takes more courage to look within and to simply ask why.
I don't know if its more courage, but it's courage nonetheless.

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#611717 Mar 22, 2013
Al Garcia wrote:
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I don't know if its more courage, but it's courage nonetheless.
Yo, we're all on the same team, Al.

The humanity team.

Since: Mar 13

Simpsonville, KY

#611718 Mar 22, 2013
Apocalypse666 wrote:
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Sure right here.
God said that he gave man free will.
People whom are mentally ill or mentally retarded have limited control over their actions or impulses.
A mentally ill person in a comatose state or just a normal person in a coma have no free will.
Being that not everybody has free will over the actions of there bodies or the thoughts in there heads including Tourettes syndrome not all people where given free will.
If all people do not have free will then god could have not given all people free will.
We only sin because we have free will but since all people do not have free will sin does not exist
technically when your in a coma you still can think and hear

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#611719 Mar 22, 2013
SPARKS33 wrote:
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technically when your in a coma you still can think and hear
Is that what you call what you're doing now?

“I never claimed to be Perfect”

Since: Nov 10

just better than yesterday

#611720 Mar 22, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Yo, we're all on the same team, Al.
The humanity team.
:)

“Is that all you've got?”

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#611721 Mar 22, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Yo, we're all on the same team, Al.
The humanity team.
No, you are not a cheerleader for all humans.

“Timshel”

Since: Jan 12

Tulsa, OK

#611722 Mar 22, 2013
Al Garcia wrote:
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I don't feel that a belief in God gives me a false sense of security. Quite the opposite, I find that it gives me guidance, a positiveness of things to come. It allows me the opportunity of reflection, introspection. The ability to see the beauty from the largest of things to the littlest of creation even through the ugliness of what human kind can produce.
But then again, what to you is the feeling of security? Does that insecurity cause you to disapprove or belittle those that are secure?
Religion is not security. Security is just a state of mind. You could have God, the best locks, Seal Team Six next door, but if you are insecure in your mind, then nothing will ever pacify you. Nothing.
Please don't project any insecurities if that is indeed what you are doing.
I believe that it takes courage through faith sometimes to let go.
That doesn't sound like the mark of a weak person that needs a pacifier.
One day you may see that your religion is just a state of mind as you can still receive guidance from knowledge and a positiveness that you alone have accomplished everything and that you and you alone deserve all the credit when you've accomplished something positive or all the blame and not just attribute it to some pesky pitched forked holding horny red guy ruining everyone's day. You will find that you can actually grow more than you ever imagined when you realize it's you and it's always been you that you've had to count on.

You will also if not more so have the ability of reflection and introspection and you will still maintain the ability to see the beauty from the largest of things to the littlest of creation even through the ugliness of what human kind can produce I promise.

First you must be open to question what you believe and until then I wish you nothing but peace.

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