I don't remember the full conversation, and not going to dig it up but...<quoted text>How? I said that faith is a harmful, or at least non-beneficial meme, and that education was a beneficial one. You made the claim that neither was inherently good or bad. I disagreed, and explained why. How did I move the goal posts?
This "faith is a harmful, or at least non-beneficial meme" is not a provable or even a viable assertion.
You would have to be alot more specific. Ergo...
I have faith I will succeed at the task in front of me.
Faith is beneficial to many, even in false beliefs.
Many need this to drive them, but some of us are past this.
Children have faith in Santa and try to be good, so he will come to their house and leave their wishes. This is a false doctrine, but a healthy one that is a part of growing up. This is not harmful and is beneficial. We outgrow this faith in Santa , but realize the lesson and learn as it helps us become the "Santa" later in life.