Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#604789 Feb 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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There's just as much "data" that confirms spanning kids is a good thing.
You have to love your child enough to be tough and do what is necessary to get the desired result. Parent first, friend second.
Spanking teaches kids to be fearful of going against your rules. It also teaches them to submit to authority regardless of whether or not they agree.
Every decision has an outcome, good or bad. Just as your reward your child for the good, you must also acknowledge and address the bad.
Those bratty little bastards you see at the grocery store or in a restaurant are the result of bullshit consequences like "time outs".
I grew up when teachers were allowed to spank their students and you know what I can remember screaming brats in grocery store or in a restaurant back then too.

Physical punishment can also lead to abuse. Children who are abused often become bullies and abuse those that are smaller and weaker then them.

Yesterday a man with a German shepherd walk by my yard. Naturally my dogs started barking, as their instinct and centuries of training by humans taught them to. The German Shepherd responded accordingly. Rather than realize the nature of the dog, the owner stopped and started yelling at the dog. He eventually hit the dog with a stick that made me cringe.

such is the nature of some humans. That same man would probably do the same to a child

Spanking should never inflict physical pain, and from I've read only be used on small children. Once the child can understand and reason....its probably better to explain to the child and reason with him.

my parent rarely hit me after a certain age. When I did something wrong, I knew it. Punishment was being sent to my room (without video games-they didn't exist) or being denied a luxury. I rarely lied to my parents, if asked if I did something, I admitted it. I assumed they already knew.....

I just think treating kids with respect gets you a lot further

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#604790 Feb 22, 2013
OCB wrote:
It's not acceptable- not at all. It is SICK to want to inflict ANY kind of physical pain or discomfort on ANYONE- let alone on CHILDREN.
Who said anything about "wanting to" spank your kids???

“design is God's trademark”

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#604791 Feb 22, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>Who is this "you" you're referring to- because it sure isn't me.
At any rate, PLENTY of "Christians" here do in FACT cherry pick from the bible.
So perhaps your words would be better addressed to those who do, which does not include me since I find the bible to be nothing more than a book of fairy tales/parables/myths that was in FACT written by mere mortal men as a means to control the masses and to keep them as ignorant, as fearful and as stupid as possible.
The issue of proving God is found in ONE fact.
Creation.
Science/the laws of physics say that matter can not come from nothingness.

Everything that exists was made by someone or by God.
thats only logical.
Largelanguage

Chester, UK

#604792 Feb 22, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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I still don't get the purpose. I disowned my mother when I was young to prevent her, and any other member of my family, from gaining access to a few things. You should recall, social constructs such as "shame" are stupid, and I do not ascribe to them at all. To me they are nothing more than a display of human stupidity.
I agree, shame and guilt are not really appropriate ways to feel about something, although riverside redneck would probably disagree.

If Riverside Redneck did feel shame or guilt about something he did, though, it at least would hopefully imply a slight tint of inhumanity. Riverside Redneck only feels shame for yourself because of herself, but for no one else. He really is as selfish as he claims.
Largelanguage

Chester, UK

#604793 Feb 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You'd like to think that, but my estate is plentiful.
I've done well for myself.
Don't exaggerate RR, Narcissists are known by psychatrics for doing that sort of thing.
Largelanguage

Chester, UK

#604794 Feb 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Including spanking...
It's hard to fathom a child saying "f_ck you" to their parent.
I guess it's a sissy liberal thing.
Its not hard to fathom at all, if you trully had a mature 40something perspective of such things, RR.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#604795 Feb 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You'd like to think that, but my estate is plentiful.
I've done well for myself.
So then you force them to have to earn a living. Meh. You disowning someone is still akin to calling someone weird.

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#604796 Feb 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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By being a trustworthy father.
By being confident.
By being clear & concise.
By being a father first, a friend second.
By never lying to them.
By showing humility - admitting I'm wrong when I am.
By showing them that I trust them.
By being respectful & courteous to them.
By giving them their space.
By encouraging their dreams.
By remembering what they tell me.
Nice. Its a lost art, being a father...

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#604797 Feb 22, 2013
Largelanguage wrote:
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1. How did you gain their trust?
2. How can you be confident? You probably have only taught your kids to hide stuff to hide their shame and not be open.
3. Clear and concise? You haven't been concise with us, yeah right!
4. What does being a father first, and a friend second mean to you? That is the question RR, to me, that only implies you don't want to be too much of a friend to them so you don't lose your patriarchal fascist place in the home.
5. You lied to us, RR, I don't believe you!
6. You have already admitted that humility means a poor self esteem, you moron!
7. I'm sure you tell them you trust them, but then betray them!
8. What respect, RR? Flattery, and mimicry? Or God given respect and tact?
9. Their space? Go ask your kids if they feel that way!
10. Encourage what dreams? I'm sure you tell them what dreams they should have, and you don't give your kids space, as I'm sure you
are the type to discourage masturbation or anything of the sort.
11. Hmmm! Well... wait a second... I DON'T BELIEVE YOU ONE BIT!
12. I don't give a rat's ass if you believe me.

You asked me a question, I gave you an honest answer.

Give it time to sink in.
Largelanguage

Chester, UK

#604798 Feb 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Who said anything about "wanting to" spank your kids???
You laughed about it, with capital "HAHAHA"'s. You even said you admired that they obeyed what you did, without questioning.

You always pick on your children RR, but when someone bigger comes along, you back off and flatter them, with your poor excuse for charm.

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#604799 Feb 22, 2013
Honeysuckler_rose wrote:
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The issue of proving God is found in ONE fact.
Creation.
Science/the laws of physics say that matter can not come from nothingness.
Everything that exists was made by someone or by God.
thats only logical.
You can't have it both ways. If everything was created, then who created your god?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#604800 Feb 22, 2013
Largelanguage wrote:
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In what way are you speaking of, RR? Be clear.
Why bother?

When I'm clear with you, it does nothing to advance th conversation...

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#604801 Feb 22, 2013
Largelanguage wrote:
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Yes, it is, RR. Stop hullicinating that your parents loved you, and go kill yourself!
*waits for MrSpellingBee to correct "hullicinating", then give youu a 3,500 word dissertation on why she's right.*

I have a feeling I'll be waiting a while....

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#604802 Feb 22, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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I still don't get the purpose. I disowned my mother when I was young to prevent her, and any other member of my family, from gaining access to a few things. You should recall, social constructs such as "shame" are stupid, and I do not ascribe to them at all. To me they are nothing more than a display of human stupidity.
Are you still not communicating with your mom?

I disowned my dad when I was 19, it lasted almost 3 years. We eventually reconciled and we're the better for it.

“design is God's trademark”

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#604803 Feb 22, 2013
Largelanguage wrote:
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In the hebrew, in proverbs, the word is staff, not rod, a whole different context. And I bet your parents thought the same about you.
get yourself a good Hebrew/Greek concordanace.

cross ref that word
staff or rod and you will find that the two words along with a few other examples mean one in the same.
rod, staff, stick, etc..........

and my parents did discipline me with a spanking when i needed it.
and as an adult i can look back and say i am glad they loved me enough to correct my behavior.
the bible says anyone who doesn't spank a disobedient child hates his or her child.

"He that spareth his rod HATETH his son; but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes." Prov 13:24

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#604804 Feb 22, 2013
Largelanguage wrote:
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Seriously, you really need to go round the block... are you kidding me?
The child may say they hate their mom because they don't feel they are loved back, RR. Perhaps that is why your sons said it to you.
My sons have never said that to me.

See, this is what I mean about it being pointless to be clear with you & have a conversation.

You pull shit out of the air & transfer it to your keyboard...

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#604805 Feb 22, 2013
Largelanguage wrote:
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Don't exaggerate RR, Narcissists are known by psychatrics for doing that sort of thing.
Is that what your psychiatrist told you?

I refuse to go over my estate with you.

“design is God's trademark”

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#604806 Feb 22, 2013
Just Think wrote:
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So prove god exists.
It is proven.
the proof is not the problem, it is the acceptance of that proof you have a difficulity with.

CREATION.
thats your proof.

Science/the law of physics declair that 'matter' can NOT come from nothingness.
impossible.

everything that exists was made by someone or by God.
thats only logical.

every creation MUST have a creator.

MUST.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#604807 Feb 22, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
So then you force them to have to earn a living.
WHAT?!?!

"force them to earn a living"??!!??!!??

That IS life, Koder.

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#604808 Feb 22, 2013
MaleSexSymbol wrote:
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--Prove there is a God--
--Prove there is no God--
Nobody wins this one.
define "god"

and you shall have your proof

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