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No it won't.
OK fine, then they are opportunists. So what. Everyone in America has the same opportunities to succeed or fail.
I didn't say that *all and only* the smart people are the rich people.
Yes, I meant to type "applaud", not "applied".
You have "disdain" for rich because they give people jobs? You're strange.
Yeah- it will. ALL tattoos turn blue in time.

Nope- everyone in the USA does NOT have the same opportunities. That is simply not true.

And now you say the rich give people jobs? Only if they need a job to be filled and given the unemployment rate, the rich are not handing out jobs and if anything, the rich are LAYING PEOPLE OFF and/or cutting hours for those they already have in their employ.

You're a nut.

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<quoted text>And yes- you are correct- money, wealth and possessions are the not end-all, be-all of existence; however, having enough FOOD to eat IS.
And while you try to deny it or claim you know it but don't care, try the following on for size and then tell me all is right with the world or just with the USA- the self-proclaimed richest country in the WORLD.
"Food Insecurity and Very Low Food Security iv
In 2011, 50.1 million Americans lived in food insecure households, 33.5 million adults and 16.7 million children.
In 2011, 14.9 percent of households (17.9 million households) were food insecure.
In 2011, 5.7 percent of households (6.8 million households) experienced very low food security.
In 2011, households with children reported food insecurity at a significantly higher rate than those without children, 20.6 percent compared to 12.2percent.
In 2011, households that had higher rates of food insecurity than the national average included households with children (20.6 percent), especially households with children headed by single women (36.8 percent) or single men (24.9 percent), Black non-Hispanic households (25.1 percent) and Hispanic households (26.2 percent).
In 2011, 8.8 percent of seniors living alone (1 million households) were food insecure.
Food insecurity exists in every county in America, ranging from a low of 5 percent in Steele County, ND to a high of 37 percent in Holmes County, MS.v"
http://feedingamerica.org/hunger-in-america/h...
Now this is not about owning a home, a car, a boat, a big screen TV, a sound system, a cell phone, etc.
This is about being able to SURVIVE and not being able to afford enough FOOD to do so in order to not be food insecure.
This is about the most BASIC of needs which in no way is any sort of luxury- that most basic of needs being FOOD.
And you see NOTHING wrong with the above statistics in what has been self-proclaimed as the richest country in the world?
Yup. I understand all that (and already know it).

Maybe it'd be a good idea if people that are flat broke quit having so many damn kids.

Maybe....

And it's pretty damned funny that you'll see so many "poor people" with a brand new smart phone stuck in their ear.

I can understand a portion of people just having bad luck - or the loooooongest bad day of their life. THOSE are the people that need AND DESERVE help. The children ALWAYS deserve help, it's not thir fault that they have stupid, lazy ass parents that don't wanna earn a living.

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Bullshit. My blessings & good fortune are a direct consequence of my actions.
People can't "sow and sow and sow and sow" and come out with nothing.
Too many people are stupid with their money. They rely heavily on credit & real estate to feed their family & when shit hits the fan, they're the ones that are all of a sudden hungry & homeless through FAULTS OF THEIR OWN.
It's nobody elses fault that they retardedly bought an overpriced home that they KNEW they couldn't afford. It's nobody elses fault that they squandered their money away on trivial bullshit that they don't need, like cars, tv's boats, rv's, atv's, etc. Waste.
I am literally laughing out loud reading this nonsensical drivel of yours.

As always, RR, you are hapless, helpless and hopeless.

You put Disney's Fantasy Land to shame- LOL!!!

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Honeysuckler_rose wrote:
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incorrect again, because both atheist and christians get the same oppertunity in education.
I guess you are neither an atheist OR a Christian; not only are you too lazy to capitalize the word Christian, you're also too uneducated to correctly spell the word "opportunity".

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There is no evidence to support the feeling of love.
Actually there is. If you didn't waste so much time in your religion and actually studied history you'd know that what we call love today can be traced down through history. People didn't always mate like they do today. In the early days of mankind it was much different, but you wouldn't know anything about that because your bibull doesn't talk about it. Typical.
All we know is there are electrical impulses that *somehow* turn into an intense emotion. Neuroscience doesn't know how it works,
Wow, are you behind the curve. LOL.... Make sure you pick up your hands when you walk or you might scrap your knuckles. LOL....

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Yup. I understand all that (and already know it).
Maybe it'd be a good idea if people that are flat broke quit having so many damn kids.
Maybe....
And it's pretty damned funny that you'll see so many "poor people" with a brand new smart phone stuck in their ear.
I can understand a portion of people just having bad luck - or the loooooongest bad day of their life. THOSE are the people that need AND DESERVE help. The children ALWAYS deserve help, it's not thir fault that they have stupid, lazy ass parents that don't wanna earn a living.
Yeah- and maybe it would be a good idea of the elderly who are poor would just drop dead already, huh? I'm sure in the world of RR you think that's a GREAT idea!

Ummm...there are programs that make cell phones accessible to the poor for emergency use and very limited use so that really isn't for you to determine why poor people have cell phones.

Nor can you say what KIND of phone they have- what do you do- walk right up to them, get in their face and get SO close that you can see exactly what kind of phone they have? Pfft.

Yes- it is children who ALWAYS deserve help; however, where is that help for the 17 MILLION children in this country who are always chronically hungry and who suffer from food insecurity?

Where are those "rich people" you speak about when it comes to truly doing SOMETHING to feed those 17 MILLION chronically hungry American children?

And again- you speak out of your ass- who the hell are you to say that hungry children have stupid and lazy parents who don't want to earn a living?

Try joining the REAL world, RR and try doing some research about the MANY hard working Americans who work 2, 3 or even 4 jobs just to make ends meet in order to put food on the table.

AGAIN- you put Disney's Fantasy Land to shame given the world of fantasy you so willingly inhabit.
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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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No it won't.
OK fine, then they are opportunists. So what. Everyone in America has the same opportunities to succeed or fail.
I didn't say that *all and only* the smart people are the rich people.
Yes, I meant to type "applaud", not "applied".
You have "disdain" for rich because they give people jobs? You're strange.
Interjecting this post post of your to poster OCD. Those Rich that are irresponsible US Corporate Citizens and their lowly ilks who want under them, and question to you ,TThose man with reason but without/lack of moral will do what to its nation and/or the world ?

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OCB wrote:
<quoted text>Does it matter that his English isn't great in light of the fact that his comments are?
It's no surprise that you find his anti-American rants to be "great"......

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Yup. I understand all that (and already know it).
Maybe it'd be a good idea if people that are flat broke quit having so many damn kids.
Maybe....
And it's pretty damned funny that you'll see so many "poor people" with a brand new smart phone stuck in their ear.
I can understand a portion of people just having bad luck - or the loooooongest bad day of their life. THOSE are the people that need AND DESERVE help. The children ALWAYS deserve help, it's not thir fault that they have stupid, lazy ass parents that don't wanna earn a living.
You're alive, right, RR? Then LEARN.

"Why are people out of work?

Some economists have been arguing that today's high unemployment is explained by a mismatch between the skills that employers are looking for and the skills that the unemployed have. "Firms have jobs, but can't find appropriate workers," the Minneapolis Fed President Narayana Kocherlakota said in Michigan in 2010.

"The workers want to work, but can't find appropriate jobs." Indeed, there were 3.7 million unfilled job openings in the United States in June of this year, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Indeed, most economists agree that today's high unemployment is "cyclical."

That is, we agree that most people are out of work because of the recession and its lingering effects on the labor market, not because there is something wrong with the unemployed.

Given that the problem of unemployment is not the fault of the unemployed but rather insufficient demand for their labor, solutions should address that macroeconomic root cause. While it is always important to make sure that workers -- and especially low-wage workers and young people -- have access to the education and training that they need to make the most of their career, investments in workforce development will not be enough to solve today's unemployment problem. If the unemployment rate was half what it was today, then education and job training could push it down even further. But that's not where we are.

To solve the jobs problem, we need to find a way to make up for the gap in demand that continues to plague the U.S. economy. Because this recession was caused by the collapse of a still-struggling housing market, we cannot expect our recovery to be driven -- as is typical -- by an increase in housing purchases."

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Um, actually we do know exactly how "love" works, what causes it, and how it's triggered quite well, you have been shown the evidence used to help understand it and you dismissed it because you didn't understand the evidence itself, instead of looking it up. If you are going to throw a red herring fallacy, you should at least try to understand it enough that when someone decides to bite you could demonstrate how it's connected. Or better, understand the notions well enough that you don't look a total moron and say something really stupid like "we don't know ...." ... oh wait, you just did.
Now, to go into detail of why your analogy fails completely, we have had evidence that the emotional response we call "love" exists since we were able to comprehend what evidence is. This evidence includes, but is not limited to:
1. Physiological reactions, such as "heart ache." Increased pulmonary rate, increase in body temperature, and a flushing of blood veins. This is the strongest evidence because we see it all the time.
2. Irrational yet often beneficial behavior that is uncontrollable by one under the influence, such as pushing someone out of the way of harm that results in you taking that person's place. Carrying your wounded friend while being hunted by a violent force. This is more evidence of the existence of the emotion we labeled as "love."
3. An unfettered attraction that often defies sanity or logic. This often results in sexual arousal and uncharacteristic behaviors. Yes, this is evidence of the existence of an emotion we now call "love."
That's the evidence that we see without scientific measuring devices, when you buy a gift for someone without an occasion or reason, that's evidence as well. Now, where is the evidence for your god?
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It's no surprise that you find his anti-American rants to be "great"......
I find his realism to be "great" and a refreshing change of pace from the platitudes and bromides that you consistently regurgitate.

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Forum wrote:
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Seek and you shall find. We all have the same brain.
It is to do what is right that you succeed. God wants us
to learn what is right. Find your happiness. Enjoy.
Yes sir, thank you sir. I have found my happiness and it cannot be wrapped up in a dollar bill.
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UdiotRaceMAkeWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text>Interjecting this post post of your to poster OCD. Those Rich that are irresponsible US Corporate Citizens and their lowly ilks who want under them, and question to you ,TThose man with reason but without/lack of moral will do what to its nation and/or the world ?
not' want' but "Work under them...

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It's no surprise that you find his anti-American rants to be "great"......
You find any criticism of this country to be anti-American.

What a hoot you are.

So if you criticize your kids, does that mean you are against your kids? Or does it mean that you criticize them because you know they can do much better?

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It doesn't take smarts to succeed financially , it takes a cut throat and wealth driven desire.
"Succeeding financially" is a very relative term. Some people are happy without loads and loads of wealth, some people are happy with what they have. And I know several wealthy people, they are not cutthroat at all, they're very kind, generous, giving and wonderful. Don't stereotype somebody just because they're wealthy.

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There is no empirical evidence for thoughts, emotions, dreams or imagination.
Or God.
Glad you FINALLY admit that there is no evidence for your "god". As for the other things you listed, They are all just a thought away and if your "god" is so fragile then that just proves how ridiculous it is for someone to devote their life to your "god". You have once again proven that it's true, faith without supporting evidence is indistinguishable from schizophrenia.

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Okay......my p[ost #602608- so there are actually some MORONS here who think that the super wealthy are as super wealthy as they are because they are NOT greedy?
ROFLMAO!!!!
greed
noun \&#712;gr&#275;d\
Definition of GREED
: a selfish and excessive desire for more of something (as money) than is needed
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gre...
"Conservatives believe that enriching individuals will eventually enrich society, and that government should not get in the way of the process. This is what happens as a result:
(1) The tax loss from one scheming businessman could have paid the salaries of 30,000 nurses
The lost taxes of $1.3 billion (35% of $3.7 billion) could have paid the salaries of 30,000 LPNs, 10 nurses for every county in the United States. Instead, one clever businessman took it all.
(2) The 10 richest Americans made enough money last year to feed every hungry person on earth for a year
The richest 10 Americans increased their wealth by over $50 billion in one year. Thatís enough, according to 2008 estimates by the Food and Agriculture Organization and the UNís World Food Program, to feed the 870 million people in the world who are lacking sufficient food.
But should anyone be blamed for this imbalance? Didnít the rich people EARN their money through hard work and innovation? No, they didnít. Sixty percent of the income for the Forbes 400 came from capital gains. A lot more of it came from other forms of deregulatory subterfuge.
(3) Avoided taxes could pay off the deficit ó or pay for 20 million jobs
The backlash against government regulation has led to tax abuses that cost us almost a trillion dollars a year.
Corporations doubled their profits to $1.9 trillion in less than ten years, but since 2008 theyíve reduced their tax payments from a twenty-year average of 22% to just 10%. Thatís a dropoff of over $225 billion.
Finally, the IRS estimates that 17 percent of taxes owed were not paid, leaving an underpayment of $450 billion.
Add it up, and itís almost the size of the U.S. deficit. All because of lax or non-existing regulations that allow wealthy individuals and corporations to avoid their tax responsibilities.
(4) An unregulated trading industry costs us another $350 billion a year in taxes
For a $10.00 purchase of childrenís clothing, mothers pay up to a dollar in sales tax.
For a $10.00 purchase of financial instruments, investors refuse to pay one cent.
We had a financial transaction tax from 1914 to 1966, but it was repealed in an early surge of Congressional deregulation. Now, it is estimated that $350 billion could be generated every year, enough for almost ten million teachers or nurses or firefighters or medical technicians.
(5) Redistribution is destroying entrepreneurship in America
Largely because of financial deregulation, our countryís income and wealth keep moving to the top while the middle class shrinks. Entrepreneurship is going down with it.
Studies reveal that relatively few business startups are initiated by the very wealthy.
Only 3 percent of the CEOs, upper management, and financial professionals were entrepreneurs in 2005, even though they made up about 60 percent of the richest .1% of Americans.
Instead, they invest over 90% of their assets in a combination of low-risk investments (bonds and cash), the stock market, and real estate.
Entrepreneurs come from risk-takers in the middle class.
Weíre at the mercy of the deregulators. But they have no mercy. The once-muscular entrepreneurial fiber of our country is being ripped apart, stretched to the limit, thinning in the middle until it eventually snaps in two.
http://www.salon.com/2012/10/16/five_ways_cor...
Is it at all possible for you to put your own spin on things? Do you always have to copy/paste so much?

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Honeysuckler_rose wrote:
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exactly......the big bang THEORY
the THEORY of evolution.
not facts
but the detailed DESIGN of life and creation is fact that every creation MUST have a creator.
TA-DA!
Patty, I really wish you could try to make that point to someone who is educated, but you really trust. Hopefully they would point out to you just how insane that comment is.

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<quoted text>I agree with some of what you say here; what you say about national health care and employers is a crock.
LONG before the new health care plan, employers were dropping company sponsored insurance coverage in droves- not due to the government but due to the sky rocketing insurance premiums going unchecked by any government regulations.
The bottom line is that national health care will make it more affordable for EVERYONE- employers included who, btw, are legally obligated to pay only 50% of the lowest health care premiums available with employees paying the other 50%. Also, that 50% only applies to covering the actual employees; for family members, employers are only required to cover 20% of the portion of those premiums for family coverage.
Sorry, but it's not the employers who bear the brunt of the cost of group sponsored plans- it is actually the insured employees and their families.
Also, as it now stands- but which will thankfully no longer be the case under the new health care plan, employers can hire part time workers for no more than 30 hours a week thereby not having to offer ANY health insurance coverage to employees.
That's one of several loopholes available to employers while as it now stands, no such loopholes are available to employees.
It is to the benefit of employers to do all they can to insure that their employees- and their families- have insurance coverage; a HEALTHY workforce is a PRODUCTIVE workforce and the more productive the workforce is, the higher the profits for employers.
And for some reason, you think it's ok that employers are gonna be forced to offer insurance...

You damn liberals just can't keep your hands outta the cookie jar.
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<quoted text>I find his realism to be "great" and a refreshing change of pace from the platitudes and bromides that you consistently regurgitate.
You know redneck is a war mongering soldier boy who still have not clue what he doing to humanity is immoral grunt who fighting illicit/bad overseas wars for corrupted greedy fat cats that don't benefit World and US, he is really Anti-Americans, Anti-World, Anti-Peace, Anti_constitution, Anti-Civil liberties, Anti-Human rights...

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