Prove there's a god.

OCB

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#602611 Feb 18, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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I know many wealthy people who are not greedy, but yes greed can be a factor. The ones that try to beat money out of everyone including employees are greedy. The government is making employers become greedy to an extent with the Obama heath care program.
Many will be forced to drop the coverage and will pay the fine because of it. This is the greed of those running Washington that is causing this.
I agree with some of what you say here; what you say about national health care and employers is a crock.

LONG before the new health care plan, employers were dropping company sponsored insurance coverage in droves- not due to the government but due to the sky rocketing insurance premiums going unchecked by any government regulations.

The bottom line is that national health care will make it more affordable for EVERYONE- employers included who, btw, are legally obligated to pay only 50% of the lowest health care premiums available with employees paying the other 50%. Also, that 50% only applies to covering the actual employees; for family members, employers are only required to cover 20% of the portion of those premiums for family coverage.

Sorry, but it's not the employers who bear the brunt of the cost of group sponsored plans- it is actually the insured employees and their families.

Also, as it now stands- but which will thankfully no longer be the case under the new health care plan, employers can hire part time workers for no more than 30 hours a week thereby not having to offer ANY health insurance coverage to employees.

That's one of several loopholes available to employers while as it now stands, no such loopholes are available to employees.

It is to the benefit of employers to do all they can to insure that their employees- and their families- have insurance coverage; a HEALTHY workforce is a PRODUCTIVE workforce and the more productive the workforce is, the higher the profits for employers.

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#602612 Feb 18, 2013
OCB wrote:
And in time, your "red, white and blue" tattoo will turn completely blue.
No- it is NOT because that 1% is so much smarter; it is because they are opportunists more than anything else.
There are MANY brilliant people in this world who are not rich by any stretch of the imagination.
And you "applied" them for being successful?
I can sure see why YOU are not in that top 1% if intelligence has anything to do with it- ROFLMAO!!
If you meant to ask why I don't APPLAUD them, it's not that I don't applaud them for their success; it's that I have disdain for those who have made their fortunes off the sweat of the backs of others- namely- the WORKERS in this country who keep this country running.
Greed is a terrible thing and all the more when the majority of people suffer due to the greed of a very select few.
No it won't.

OK fine, then they are opportunists. So what. Everyone in America has the same opportunities to succeed or fail.

I didn't say that *all and only* the smart people are the rich people.

Yes, I meant to type "applaud", not "applied".

You have "disdain" for rich because they give people jobs? You're strange.

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#602613 Feb 18, 2013
Mylan wrote:
<quoted text>Theories are not evidence. Try again.
exactly......the big bang THEORY
the THEORY of evolution.

not facts

but the detailed DESIGN of life and creation is fact that every creation MUST have a creator.

TA-DA!

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#602614 Feb 18, 2013
Mylan wrote:
<quoted text>If you were a child then you were forced. Fear is a terrible tool, slave.
and since i WAS a child and i was NEVER forced then you have just lied.

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#602615 Feb 18, 2013
Mylan wrote:
<quoted text>It's called education.
incorrect again, because both atheist and christians get the same oppertunity in education.

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#602616 Feb 18, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>SECOND time- that is why I pointed out where MONETARY issues are concerned.
You DO know the meaning of the word "monetary", don't you?
OMG- massive layoffs have taken place in this country since 2000- MASSIVE.
Do you EVER read a newspaper? Do you actually think that those who have been victims of those massive layoffs were actually at fault and somehow deserved to be laid off?
I'm talking people who were great employees who lost EVERYTHING- health benefits, pension plans, etc. and yes- through no fault of their own.
They spent their lives sowing and sowing and sowing and wound up reaping NOTHING.
RR, you are not in ANY way any type of humanitarian; then again, how could you be with your very limited and myopic understanding of the human condition?
As long as you have a roof over YOUR head and as long as you go to sleep every night with a full belly, as far as you're concerned, all is right with the world.
YOUR blessings and whatever good fortune YOU have means NOTHING to the MILLIONS in this country who through no fault of their own lost all they'd spent their lives working for.
Bullshit. My blessings & good fortune are a direct consequence of my actions.

People can't "sow and sow and sow and sow" and come out with nothing.

Too many people are stupid with their money. They rely heavily on credit & real estate to feed their family & when shit hits the fan, they're the ones that are all of a sudden hungry & homeless through FAULTS OF THEIR OWN.

It's nobody elses fault that they retardedly bought an overpriced home that they KNEW they couldn't afford. It's nobody elses fault that they squandered their money away on trivial bullshit that they don't need, like cars, tv's boats, rv's, atv's, etc. Waste.

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#602617 Feb 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
LOL... What?
Yeah, that's what I was thinking :p

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#602618 Feb 18, 2013
Largelanguage wrote:
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12 or 13 is not an age of accountability, they are still very young.
there is no SET age of accountability.
the bible says it comes when an individual recognizes they are a sinner by nature..........when they know there is a right and a wrong and they are mature enough emotionally to experience their conscience.
could be any age from 6 up to 16 or 17.
the age of accountability is different for each person.
when we discover we are accountible for our mistakes and sins, thus accountable to God.

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#602619 Feb 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
That's funny to you?
No, but it's entertaining to watch you religitards try to sweep it under the rug. LOL...

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#602620 Feb 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
It's not a lie, though.You act as if Jesus isn't real....
Yes and yes.

OCB

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Since: Apr 12

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#602621 Feb 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
No it won't.
OK fine, then they are opportunists. So what. Everyone in America has the same opportunities to succeed or fail.
I didn't say that *all and only* the smart people are the rich people.
Yes, I meant to type "applaud", not "applied".
You have "disdain" for rich because they give people jobs? You're strange.
Yeah- it will. ALL tattoos turn blue in time.

Nope- everyone in the USA does NOT have the same opportunities. That is simply not true.

And now you say the rich give people jobs? Only if they need a job to be filled and given the unemployment rate, the rich are not handing out jobs and if anything, the rich are LAYING PEOPLE OFF and/or cutting hours for those they already have in their employ.

You're a nut.

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#602622 Feb 18, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>And yes- you are correct- money, wealth and possessions are the not end-all, be-all of existence; however, having enough FOOD to eat IS.
And while you try to deny it or claim you know it but don't care, try the following on for size and then tell me all is right with the world or just with the USA- the self-proclaimed richest country in the WORLD.
"Food Insecurity and Very Low Food Security iv
In 2011, 50.1 million Americans lived in food insecure households, 33.5 million adults and 16.7 million children.
In 2011, 14.9 percent of households (17.9 million households) were food insecure.
In 2011, 5.7 percent of households (6.8 million households) experienced very low food security.
In 2011, households with children reported food insecurity at a significantly higher rate than those without children, 20.6 percent compared to 12.2percent.
In 2011, households that had higher rates of food insecurity than the national average included households with children (20.6 percent), especially households with children headed by single women (36.8 percent) or single men (24.9 percent), Black non-Hispanic households (25.1 percent) and Hispanic households (26.2 percent).
In 2011, 8.8 percent of seniors living alone (1 million households) were food insecure.
Food insecurity exists in every county in America, ranging from a low of 5 percent in Steele County, ND to a high of 37 percent in Holmes County, MS.v"
http://feedingamerica.org/hunger-in-america/h...
Now this is not about owning a home, a car, a boat, a big screen TV, a sound system, a cell phone, etc.
This is about being able to SURVIVE and not being able to afford enough FOOD to do so in order to not be food insecure.
This is about the most BASIC of needs which in no way is any sort of luxury- that most basic of needs being FOOD.
And you see NOTHING wrong with the above statistics in what has been self-proclaimed as the richest country in the world?
Yup. I understand all that (and already know it).

Maybe it'd be a good idea if people that are flat broke quit having so many damn kids.

Maybe....

And it's pretty damned funny that you'll see so many "poor people" with a brand new smart phone stuck in their ear.

I can understand a portion of people just having bad luck - or the loooooongest bad day of their life. THOSE are the people that need AND DESERVE help. The children ALWAYS deserve help, it's not thir fault that they have stupid, lazy ass parents that don't wanna earn a living.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

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#602623 Feb 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Bullshit. My blessings & good fortune are a direct consequence of my actions.
People can't "sow and sow and sow and sow" and come out with nothing.
Too many people are stupid with their money. They rely heavily on credit & real estate to feed their family & when shit hits the fan, they're the ones that are all of a sudden hungry & homeless through FAULTS OF THEIR OWN.
It's nobody elses fault that they retardedly bought an overpriced home that they KNEW they couldn't afford. It's nobody elses fault that they squandered their money away on trivial bullshit that they don't need, like cars, tv's boats, rv's, atv's, etc. Waste.
I am literally laughing out loud reading this nonsensical drivel of yours.

As always, RR, you are hapless, helpless and hopeless.

You put Disney's Fantasy Land to shame- LOL!!!

OCB

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Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#602624 Feb 18, 2013
Honeysuckler_rose wrote:
<quoted text>
incorrect again, because both atheist and christians get the same oppertunity in education.
I guess you are neither an atheist OR a Christian; not only are you too lazy to capitalize the word Christian, you're also too uneducated to correctly spell the word "opportunity".

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#602625 Feb 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
There is no evidence to support the feeling of love.
Actually there is. If you didn't waste so much time in your religion and actually studied history you'd know that what we call love today can be traced down through history. People didn't always mate like they do today. In the early days of mankind it was much different, but you wouldn't know anything about that because your bibull doesn't talk about it. Typical.
All we know is there are electrical impulses that *somehow* turn into an intense emotion. Neuroscience doesn't know how it works,
Wow, are you behind the curve. LOL.... Make sure you pick up your hands when you walk or you might scrap your knuckles. LOL....

OCB

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#602626 Feb 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Yup. I understand all that (and already know it).
Maybe it'd be a good idea if people that are flat broke quit having so many damn kids.
Maybe....
And it's pretty damned funny that you'll see so many "poor people" with a brand new smart phone stuck in their ear.
I can understand a portion of people just having bad luck - or the loooooongest bad day of their life. THOSE are the people that need AND DESERVE help. The children ALWAYS deserve help, it's not thir fault that they have stupid, lazy ass parents that don't wanna earn a living.
Yeah- and maybe it would be a good idea of the elderly who are poor would just drop dead already, huh? I'm sure in the world of RR you think that's a GREAT idea!

Ummm...there are programs that make cell phones accessible to the poor for emergency use and very limited use so that really isn't for you to determine why poor people have cell phones.

Nor can you say what KIND of phone they have- what do you do- walk right up to them, get in their face and get SO close that you can see exactly what kind of phone they have? Pfft.

Yes- it is children who ALWAYS deserve help; however, where is that help for the 17 MILLION children in this country who are always chronically hungry and who suffer from food insecurity?

Where are those "rich people" you speak about when it comes to truly doing SOMETHING to feed those 17 MILLION chronically hungry American children?

And again- you speak out of your ass- who the hell are you to say that hungry children have stupid and lazy parents who don't want to earn a living?

Try joining the REAL world, RR and try doing some research about the MANY hard working Americans who work 2, 3 or even 4 jobs just to make ends meet in order to put food on the table.

AGAIN- you put Disney's Fantasy Land to shame given the world of fantasy you so willingly inhabit.
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#602627 Feb 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
No it won't.
OK fine, then they are opportunists. So what. Everyone in America has the same opportunities to succeed or fail.
I didn't say that *all and only* the smart people are the rich people.
Yes, I meant to type "applaud", not "applied".
You have "disdain" for rich because they give people jobs? You're strange.
Interjecting this post post of your to poster OCD. Those Rich that are irresponsible US Corporate Citizens and their lowly ilks who want under them, and question to you ,TThose man with reason but without/lack of moral will do what to its nation and/or the world ?

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#602628 Feb 18, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>Does it matter that his English isn't great in light of the fact that his comments are?
It's no surprise that you find his anti-American rants to be "great"......

OCB

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#602629 Feb 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Yup. I understand all that (and already know it).
Maybe it'd be a good idea if people that are flat broke quit having so many damn kids.
Maybe....
And it's pretty damned funny that you'll see so many "poor people" with a brand new smart phone stuck in their ear.
I can understand a portion of people just having bad luck - or the loooooongest bad day of their life. THOSE are the people that need AND DESERVE help. The children ALWAYS deserve help, it's not thir fault that they have stupid, lazy ass parents that don't wanna earn a living.
You're alive, right, RR? Then LEARN.

"Why are people out of work?

Some economists have been arguing that today's high unemployment is explained by a mismatch between the skills that employers are looking for and the skills that the unemployed have. "Firms have jobs, but can't find appropriate workers," the Minneapolis Fed President Narayana Kocherlakota said in Michigan in 2010.

"The workers want to work, but can't find appropriate jobs." Indeed, there were 3.7 million unfilled job openings in the United States in June of this year, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Indeed, most economists agree that today's high unemployment is "cyclical."

That is, we agree that most people are out of work because of the recession and its lingering effects on the labor market, not because there is something wrong with the unemployed.

Given that the problem of unemployment is not the fault of the unemployed but rather insufficient demand for their labor, solutions should address that macroeconomic root cause. While it is always important to make sure that workers -- and especially low-wage workers and young people -- have access to the education and training that they need to make the most of their career, investments in workforce development will not be enough to solve today's unemployment problem. If the unemployment rate was half what it was today, then education and job training could push it down even further. But that's not where we are.

To solve the jobs problem, we need to find a way to make up for the gap in demand that continues to plague the U.S. economy. Because this recession was caused by the collapse of a still-struggling housing market, we cannot expect our recovery to be driven -- as is typical -- by an increase in housing purchases."

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2... #

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#602630 Feb 18, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
Um, actually we do know exactly how "love" works, what causes it, and how it's triggered quite well, you have been shown the evidence used to help understand it and you dismissed it because you didn't understand the evidence itself, instead of looking it up. If you are going to throw a red herring fallacy, you should at least try to understand it enough that when someone decides to bite you could demonstrate how it's connected. Or better, understand the notions well enough that you don't look a total moron and say something really stupid like "we don't know ...." ... oh wait, you just did.
Now, to go into detail of why your analogy fails completely, we have had evidence that the emotional response we call "love" exists since we were able to comprehend what evidence is. This evidence includes, but is not limited to:
1. Physiological reactions, such as "heart ache." Increased pulmonary rate, increase in body temperature, and a flushing of blood veins. This is the strongest evidence because we see it all the time.
2. Irrational yet often beneficial behavior that is uncontrollable by one under the influence, such as pushing someone out of the way of harm that results in you taking that person's place. Carrying your wounded friend while being hunted by a violent force. This is more evidence of the existence of the emotion we labeled as "love."
3. An unfettered attraction that often defies sanity or logic. This often results in sexual arousal and uncharacteristic behaviors. Yes, this is evidence of the existence of an emotion we now call "love."
That's the evidence that we see without scientific measuring devices, when you buy a gift for someone without an occasion or reason, that's evidence as well. Now, where is the evidence for your god?
Well stated!!!

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