Prove there's a god.
UdiotRaceMAkeWOR LDPEACE

United States

#602633 Feb 18, 2013
UdiotRaceMAkeWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text>Interjecting this post post of your to poster OCD. Those Rich that are irresponsible US Corporate Citizens and their lowly ilks who want under them, and question to you ,TThose man with reason but without/lack of moral will do what to its nation and/or the world ?
not' want' but "Work under them...

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#602634 Feb 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
It's no surprise that you find his anti-American rants to be "great"......
You find any criticism of this country to be anti-American.

What a hoot you are.

So if you criticize your kids, does that mean you are against your kids? Or does it mean that you criticize them because you know they can do much better?

“Ditat Deus”

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#602635 Feb 18, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
It doesn't take smarts to succeed financially , it takes a cut throat and wealth driven desire.
"Succeeding financially" is a very relative term. Some people are happy without loads and loads of wealth, some people are happy with what they have. And I know several wealthy people, they are not cutthroat at all, they're very kind, generous, giving and wonderful. Don't stereotype somebody just because they're wealthy.

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#602636 Feb 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
There is no empirical evidence for thoughts, emotions, dreams or imagination.
Or God.
Glad you FINALLY admit that there is no evidence for your "god". As for the other things you listed, They are all just a thought away and if your "god" is so fragile then that just proves how ridiculous it is for someone to devote their life to your "god". You have once again proven that it's true, faith without supporting evidence is indistinguishable from schizophrenia.

“Ditat Deus”

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#602637 Feb 18, 2013
OCB wrote:
Okay......my p[ost #602608- so there are actually some MORONS here who think that the super wealthy are as super wealthy as they are because they are NOT greedy?
ROFLMAO!!!!
greed
noun \&#712;gr&#275;d\
Definition of GREED
: a selfish and excessive desire for more of something (as money) than is needed
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gre...
"Conservatives believe that enriching individuals will eventually enrich society, and that government should not get in the way of the process. This is what happens as a result:
(1) The tax loss from one scheming businessman could have paid the salaries of 30,000 nurses
The lost taxes of $1.3 billion (35% of $3.7 billion) could have paid the salaries of 30,000 LPNs, 10 nurses for every county in the United States. Instead, one clever businessman took it all.
(2) The 10 richest Americans made enough money last year to feed every hungry person on earth for a year
The richest 10 Americans increased their wealth by over $50 billion in one year. That’s enough, according to 2008 estimates by the Food and Agriculture Organization and the UN’s World Food Program, to feed the 870 million people in the world who are lacking sufficient food.
But should anyone be blamed for this imbalance? Didn’t the rich people EARN their money through hard work and innovation? No, they didn’t. Sixty percent of the income for the Forbes 400 came from capital gains. A lot more of it came from other forms of deregulatory subterfuge.
(3) Avoided taxes could pay off the deficit — or pay for 20 million jobs
The backlash against government regulation has led to tax abuses that cost us almost a trillion dollars a year.
Corporations doubled their profits to $1.9 trillion in less than ten years, but since 2008 they’ve reduced their tax payments from a twenty-year average of 22% to just 10%. That’s a dropoff of over $225 billion.
Finally, the IRS estimates that 17 percent of taxes owed were not paid, leaving an underpayment of $450 billion.
Add it up, and it’s almost the size of the U.S. deficit. All because of lax or non-existing regulations that allow wealthy individuals and corporations to avoid their tax responsibilities.
(4) An unregulated trading industry costs us another $350 billion a year in taxes
For a $10.00 purchase of children’s clothing, mothers pay up to a dollar in sales tax.
For a $10.00 purchase of financial instruments, investors refuse to pay one cent.
We had a financial transaction tax from 1914 to 1966, but it was repealed in an early surge of Congressional deregulation. Now, it is estimated that $350 billion could be generated every year, enough for almost ten million teachers or nurses or firefighters or medical technicians.
(5) Redistribution is destroying entrepreneurship in America
Largely because of financial deregulation, our country’s income and wealth keep moving to the top while the middle class shrinks. Entrepreneurship is going down with it.
Studies reveal that relatively few business startups are initiated by the very wealthy.
Only 3 percent of the CEOs, upper management, and financial professionals were entrepreneurs in 2005, even though they made up about 60 percent of the richest .1% of Americans.
Instead, they invest over 90% of their assets in a combination of low-risk investments (bonds and cash), the stock market, and real estate.
Entrepreneurs come from risk-takers in the middle class.
We’re at the mercy of the deregulators. But they have no mercy. The once-muscular entrepreneurial fiber of our country is being ripped apart, stretched to the limit, thinning in the middle until it eventually snaps in two.
http://www.salon.com/2012/10/16/five_ways_cor...
Is it at all possible for you to put your own spin on things? Do you always have to copy/paste so much?

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#602638 Feb 18, 2013
Honeysuckler_rose wrote:
<quoted text>
exactly......the big bang THEORY
the THEORY of evolution.
not facts
but the detailed DESIGN of life and creation is fact that every creation MUST have a creator.
TA-DA!
Patty, I really wish you could try to make that point to someone who is educated, but you really trust. Hopefully they would point out to you just how insane that comment is.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#602639 Feb 18, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>I agree with some of what you say here; what you say about national health care and employers is a crock.
LONG before the new health care plan, employers were dropping company sponsored insurance coverage in droves- not due to the government but due to the sky rocketing insurance premiums going unchecked by any government regulations.
The bottom line is that national health care will make it more affordable for EVERYONE- employers included who, btw, are legally obligated to pay only 50% of the lowest health care premiums available with employees paying the other 50%. Also, that 50% only applies to covering the actual employees; for family members, employers are only required to cover 20% of the portion of those premiums for family coverage.
Sorry, but it's not the employers who bear the brunt of the cost of group sponsored plans- it is actually the insured employees and their families.
Also, as it now stands- but which will thankfully no longer be the case under the new health care plan, employers can hire part time workers for no more than 30 hours a week thereby not having to offer ANY health insurance coverage to employees.
That's one of several loopholes available to employers while as it now stands, no such loopholes are available to employees.
It is to the benefit of employers to do all they can to insure that their employees- and their families- have insurance coverage; a HEALTHY workforce is a PRODUCTIVE workforce and the more productive the workforce is, the higher the profits for employers.
And for some reason, you think it's ok that employers are gonna be forced to offer insurance...

You damn liberals just can't keep your hands outta the cookie jar.
UdiotRaceMAkeWOR LDPEACE

United States

#602640 Feb 18, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>I find his realism to be "great" and a refreshing change of pace from the platitudes and bromides that you consistently regurgitate.
You know redneck is a war mongering soldier boy who still have not clue what he doing to humanity is immoral grunt who fighting illicit/bad overseas wars for corrupted greedy fat cats that don't benefit World and US, he is really Anti-Americans, Anti-World, Anti-Peace, Anti_constitution, Anti-Civil liberties, Anti-Human rights...

“Ditat Deus”

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#602641 Feb 18, 2013
Mylan wrote:
<quoted text>No, but it's entertaining to watch you religitards try to sweep it under the rug. LOL...
Good thing I'm no religitard.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#602642 Feb 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
"Succeeding financially" is a very relative term. Some people are happy without loads and loads of wealth, some people are happy with what they have. And I know several wealthy people, they are not cutthroat at all, they're very kind, generous, giving and wonderful. Don't stereotype somebody just because they're wealthy.
Just who are those wealthy people you know very kind, generous, giving and wonderful to?

In the meantime, if YOU have ANY forte at all, that would be in STEREOTYPING; why just today, you stereotyped pretty much every unemployed American adult as lazy and stupid and who doesn't want to work.

So to you I would say.....Physician, heal THYSELF.

“Ditat Deus”

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#602643 Feb 18, 2013
OCB wrote:
Yeah- it will. ALL tattoos turn blue in time.
Nope- everyone in the USA does NOT have the same opportunities. That is simply not true.
And now you say the rich give people jobs? Only if they need a job to be filled and given the unemployment rate, the rich are not handing out jobs and if anything, the rich are LAYING PEOPLE OFF and/or cutting hours for those they already have in their employ.
You're a nut.
If you say so.

Wrong. Everyone in America has the same opportunity to succeed or fail.

WTF? Where do you think jobs come from?(please do NOT say "government")

Rich people are the ones that open businesses. Those businesses can't run without people. Rich people hire other people to do their dirty work.

Der

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#602644 Feb 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Is it at all possible for you to put your own spin on things? Do you always have to copy/paste so much?
I put my own spin on things ALL the time, RR.

Just today and not for the first time I told you that the majority of unemployed Americans are out of work through no fault of their own.

You disagreed with that. You also once again showed how you are a shill for the rich. So you should at least be aware of just who you are a shill for.

That I do RESEARCH to back up my own spin on things proves that it is NOT just my own spin on things.

YOU see it as nothing more than copying and pasting when the REALITY is that I do RESEARCH and I LEARN from that.

And thanks for your all too obvious avoidance tactic of actual FACTS.
UdiotRaceMAkeWOR LDPEACE

United States

#602645 Feb 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Is it at all possible for you to put your own spin on things? Do you always have to copy/paste so much?
he copy and paste to support his debate, you do it to and so do I.
Largelanguage

Wrexham, UK

#602646 Feb 18, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Where is the proof? No one has presented any evidence at all, will you be the first to actually present evidence that your god exists or are you just another liar?
Proof that Jesus resurrected...

Since: Oct 12

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#602647 Feb 18, 2013
@Anon, Mylan & Al....Thanks guys!!:-) X

@Kaitlin & macumazahn....Thanks, I hear ya loud and clear!!
Largelanguage

Wrexham, UK

#602648 Feb 18, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
But the claim of "love" is inconsequential and since the entire notion is purely subjective it has no comparison to the claim of a specific god at all. You are comparing apples to ants, and that doesn't work at all. Love is as subjective as purple or "tastes good," we know the chemical reactions involved, we understand where it comes from and why it is part of our inherent emotional responses, and it has a ton of evidence to support it's existence ... there is still zero evidence supporting the existence of any specific god, none.
Love isn't subjective.

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#602649 Feb 18, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>That the rich get richer and the poor get poorer IS largely an American "trait".
I'm not saying it isn't the case elsewhere, but then again, no other country other than the USA has proclaimed its country to be the richest country in the world. If that is the case, it is nothing short of shameful and disgraceful that the chasm continues to widen between the rich and middle income and lower income levels.
And.....if nothing else, since when do two (or more) wrongs make a right?
Well said!

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#602650 Feb 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
And for some reason, you think it's ok that employers are gonna be forced to offer insurance...
You damn liberals just can't keep your hands outta the cookie jar.
You damn conservatives just can't comprehend the fact that the healthier the workforce, the more productive the workforce and the more beneficial to employers to do all they can to insure they have a healthy and therefore productive workforce.

I imagine you also have a problem with employers being forced to carry worker's compensation insurance, huh? And that has been the case for a VERY long time.

I imagine you also have a problem with employers being forced to have safe work environments too.

You're pathetic. It would be bad enough if you yourself were an employer, but you're not. Like the majority of Americans, you work for an employer yet you take the side of the employers- it's HILARIOUS!
Largelanguage

Wrexham, UK

#602651 Feb 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
You're not serious, are you?
Pleeeeeeease tell me that was a joke.
You really sound like a kid, albeit never stopping and never giving up in an arguement, but never providing any facts to argue further. Such a naughty little know it all.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#602652 Feb 18, 2013
OCB wrote:
Yeah- and maybe it would be a good idea of the elderly who are poor would just drop dead already, huh? I'm sure in the world of RR you think that's a GREAT idea!
WTF?
Ummm...there are programs that make cell phones accessible to the poor for emergency use and very limited use so that really isn't for you to determine why poor people have cell phones.
Nor can you say what KIND of phone they have- what do you do- walk right up to them, get in their face and get SO close that you can see exactly what kind of phone they have? Pfft.
It's pretty easy to tell the difference between a basic phone & a smart phone...

But hey, way to avoid the comment of why "poor" people get free smart phones.
Yes- it is children who ALWAYS deserve help; however, where is that help for the 17 MILLION children in this country who are always chronically hungry and who suffer from food insecurity?
Where are those "rich people" you speak about when it comes to truly doing SOMETHING to feed those 17 MILLION chronically hungry American children?
Is it their responsibility? Did they CHOOSE to have 8 kids with no money? Do they CHOOSE to not try to improve their life?

Why do you think rich people should pay for starving children? What would that accomplish in the long run? It's teach those poor, hungry kids that they don't need to succeed, they don't need to do anything, they can have multiple kids without having a job - someone else will pay for it.

What ever happened to people pulling their own weight?
And again- you speak out of your ass- who the hell are you to say that hungry children have stupid and lazy parents who don't want to earn a living?
Try joining the REAL world, RR and try doing some research about the MANY hard working Americans who work 2, 3 or even 4 jobs just to make ends meet in order to put food on the table.
AGAIN- you put Disney's Fantasy Land to shame given the world of fantasy you so willingly inhabit.
Why don't YOU join the real world. Get out of that damn house every now & then. Go visit a welfare office, spend just a few hours there, you'll get pissed when you see the big ass fat mothers with their pretty hair, fancy nails & smart phone while their kids are filthy & disheveled.

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