Prove there's a god.

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#598783 Feb 9, 2013
Al Garcia wrote:
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?? 0.o
Mercury's cousin...
nagaraja

Morehead, KY

#598784 Feb 9, 2013
Mylan wrote:
<quoted text>too bad for you anyone can post on that site, including RELIGIOUS people. Imagine that.
you opened the door. i just used the same website against you.
nagaraja

Morehead, KY

#598785 Feb 9, 2013
karl44 wrote:
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try a different dictionary
websters is discredited propaganda
i already used another website.

but for you sake, here it is again.

2. One who is doubtful or noncommittal about something.

agnostic

ag·nosti·cal·ly adv.
Word History: An agnostic does not deny the existence of God and heaven but holds that one cannot know for certain whether or not they exist. The term agnostic was fittingly coined by the 19th-century British scientist Thomas H. Huxley, who believed that only material phenomena were objects of exact knowledge. He made up the word from the prefix a-, meaning "without, not," as in amoral, and the noun Gnostic. Gnostic is related to the Greek word gnsis, "knowledge," which was used by early Christian writers to mean "higher, esoteric knowledge of spiritual things"; hence, Gnostic referred to those with such knowledge. In coining the term agnostic, Huxley was considering as "Gnostics" a group of his fellow intellectuals"ists," as he called themwho had eagerly embraced various doctrines or theories that explained the world to their satisfaction. Because he was a "man without a rag of a label to cover himself with," Huxley coined the term agnostic for himself, its first published use being in 1870.

obviously the man didn't believe that knowledge was a material thing even though he sought it religiously.

Since: Jul 10

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#598786 Feb 9, 2013
Al Garcia wrote:
<quoted text> Well Hukt, my younger brother is a conspiracy nut. He drank the conspiracy Kool Aid and sometimes our discussions get out if hand.
I've only sipped it and am not convinced. I will agree that great evil exists in this world and that there are people who will do evil to achieve their agenda. Always has been, always will be.
I think we all have to agree that something did occur, because millions of people around the world, including me, watched the events as they happened. I suspect there are many details of those events that were only guessed at, some were fabricated, because those who might know were dead, and some were fabricated because officials in any capacity have to decide how and what they are going to reveal to the public, in order to arrive at whatever conclusion they want the public to make, and that might be 100% honest, or in the worst scenario, might be 100% fabricated.

The events were something that had never happened in that scale in the prior history of the world, and they occurred over a relatively short time span, so getting absolute facts when a lot of the material of the events disappeared due to the massive fires, and destruction. The adrenaline levels of those actually in the events themselves who survived would have been so high, that anything they said after the fact would have to be affected by the extreme emotions that they must have experienced, and every person inside the event would have their own perception of what was happening.

The problem with the "official" conclusions that were presented to the public about the events of that day is that they left big gaps in certain aspects of the events which tend to leave a lot of doubt. Whether that is deliberate conspiracy or simply poor reporting, or poor conclusions we don't know.

I suspect that the majority of the 'conspiracy theories' are false, but I also believe that what has been released to the public is not telling the whole story.

I also "know" that the wars since then against Afghanistan and Iraq, in spite of the evil in those countries at the time, were/are not the correct way to have responded to 911, and that the reasons given for starting those wars were manufactured.

That makes every human being hurt or killed in the past 12 years or so, due to those wars, victims of deception. Likely all wars, if analyzed with no biases beforehand, would show the same conclusions.

Deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, the majority of which had nothing at all to do with 911, cannot be the correct solution to 911. I am not discounting the value of those lives lost, but questioning why they needed to even be placed in a situation that would take their lives.
nagaraja

Morehead, KY

#598787 Feb 9, 2013
karl44 wrote:
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not all lust for the non-existent
not all lust for nihilism either.
nagaraja

Morehead, KY

#598788 Feb 9, 2013
Just Think wrote:
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Thank you for admitting that there is not now, nor has there ever been, any proof of any god's existence.
Next.
stay hungry and starve to death
nagaraja

Morehead, KY

#598789 Feb 9, 2013
karl44 wrote:
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try a different dictionary
websters is discredited propaganda
another one for you...

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/agnost...

1.
a person who holds that the existence of the ultimate cause, as God, and the essential nature of things are unknown and unknowable, or that human knowledge is limited to experience.
nagaraja

Morehead, KY

#598790 Feb 9, 2013
karl44 wrote:
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If god is to receive credit for random situations of good fortune, then god must be responsible for situations of ill fortune.
To imply that god changed to course of reality in your favor, is to imply that you are favored by the god, that you are more worthy than others, that others are less than you.
agreed; otherwise the god is a hypocrite.

the LAW is impartial to forms.

oh sometimes i get a good feeling
get a feeling that i never, never had before.
nagaraja

Morehead, KY

#598791 Feb 9, 2013
karl44 wrote:
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I choose to be educated,
god help me
lol
you choose to be enculturated/conditioned into materialistic sensing. you work by deconstructing. there is nothing creative/constructive about that.

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#598792 Feb 9, 2013
nagaraja wrote:
<quoted text>a belief system doesn't require a deity.
Especially when it involved the REJECTION OF A BELIEF. Duh.

“What?”

Since: Oct 10

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#598793 Feb 9, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
Anybody else getting malware warnings about the Topix site?
Are you using Chrome?
nagaraja

Morehead, KY

#598794 Feb 9, 2013
karl44 wrote:
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lol
the book is mythology
the writers are anonymous
you are an uneducated, godbot
religitards, god help them
everything is a half truth

someone said that nothing can be known absolutely.

Since: Dec 12

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#598795 Feb 9, 2013
nagaraja wrote:
obviously the man didn't believe that knowledge was a material thing even though he sought it religiously.
He never sought anything religiously. He rightfully felt that religion was childish superstition.
nagaraja

Morehead, KY

#598796 Feb 9, 2013
Mylan wrote:
<quoted text>Adrenaline can effect your perceptions and give some a 'spiritual' feeling. No doubt at a time like that your adrenaline was alive and well.
what is wrong with feeling energetic? are you the repressed/gothic type?
nagaraja

Morehead, KY

#598797 Feb 9, 2013
Mylan wrote:
<quoted text>Especially when it involved the REJECTION OF A BELIEF. Duh.
a belief system isn't that simple. you're attempt to allude that an atheist holds no other beliefs. that isn't what the definition states; unless you live in a black and white world of absolutes.

do you live in a world of absolutes?

http://atheists.org/

http://atheology.com/

http://www.infidels.org/ aka atheism.org


atheology
: opposition to theology

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Atheology

A`the`ol´o`gy
n. 1. Antagonism to theology.

2011 atheism national convention was held april 21-24 in des moines, iowa.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_and_pos ...

http://www.rationalresponders.com/forum/20748

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_atheis ...

http://www.iep.utm.edu/atheism/#SH4f

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#598798 Feb 9, 2013
nagaraja wrote:
oh sometimes i get a good feeling
get a feeling that i never, never had before.
Wipe your hands when you're done.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#598799 Feb 9, 2013
River Tam wrote:
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Are you using Chrome?
No, but the warnings ceased.

I have a MacBookPro, from what I hear it's fairly safe.
nagaraja

Morehead, KY

#598800 Feb 9, 2013
Mylan wrote:
<quoted text>He never sought anything religiously. He rightfully felt that religion was childish superstition.
you don't believe he sought knowledge?

Since: Dec 12

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#598801 Feb 9, 2013
nagaraja wrote:
<quoted text>what is wrong with feeling energetic?
Nothing. Stay on topic.
nagaraja

Morehead, KY

#598802 Feb 9, 2013
Mylan wrote:
<quoted text>He never sought anything religiously. He rightfully felt that religion was childish superstition.
sometimes i get a good feeling
a feeling that i never, never had before.

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