Prove there's a god.

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#597308 Feb 1, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Sheet..... The only ones on that list I have a problem with is liberals.
The rest just make for good jokes.
Chill.
you make stupid bigoted statements, and when confronted, claim they are jokes.

you are stupid, bigoted and undereducated; no surprise that you are a godbot and a religatard

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#597309 Feb 1, 2013
siehjin wrote:
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for the purposes of this discussion, i don't need to specify which God i believe exists. the topic of discussion simply says 'prove there's a god'.
i think that the existence of the universe and everything in it proves the existence of God, and so far i have not read anything that disproves that.
why did you capitalize "god"

you assign that which you do not understand to your imaginary god, that is why that god is so powerful.

You have proviced no evidence to support your contention, you are merely a paranoid death denier, and an uneducated fool.

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#597310 Feb 1, 2013
siehjin wrote:
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it seems a valid extrapolation to me. if i am complex enough that i need an explanation for my existence, the universe is infinitely more complex, therefore also needing an explanation for its' existence. i find that the only viable explanation for the existence of the universe is God.
yes, that is the level of intellect you display.

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#597311 Feb 1, 2013
siehjin wrote:
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presumably IF we eventually agree that God exists (not likely, i know), we can then go on to examine the claims of those different religions and find out if one of them believes in the true God. or perhaps none of them is true; perhaps God exists but He has not revealed Himself to any of those religions (that is not what i personally believe, but it's a possibility).
but let's not jump the gun. why start discussing 'which God?' when we haven't even concluded whether such an entity exists?
so once again, i say that the universe and everything in it proves that God exists. let's discuss it and see if the idea has any merit to it.
and causes the thunder, and the lighning

what shall we name such a god?

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#597312 Feb 1, 2013
Victor Belmont wrote:
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I'll make it even simpler for u to comprehend Mr.Simpleton
Had the same discussion with this guy:
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Ok, lets simplify this conversation, lets put it in the basic of terms.
Anything that exists MUST be created, correct?
False, only creations must be created.
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Does your God EXIST?
Yes
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If your God EXITS then by YOUR definition he must have been created.
False, he is not s creation, therefore he cannot be created.
blacklagoon wrote:
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This is what I mean by moving the goal posts to suit you.
You are saying "Everything that exists must have been created....except my personal God.
False, I repeat every creation, must have been created, Thus I repeat my simple example for you; constructs, automobiles etc. all have been made not created by man (us) thus we are to be created since we are makers, bcuz you do not see something made that can creat or make anything, leading to the makers us, have to be created and NOT made, therefore a creator MUST exist due to our existence..If you try to tell me now that we are creators, I simply refute u by saying, ants for instance, did you create them? they are makers however they follow the rule as I explained above, but they cannot create,ultimately we all lie in this category "creations" of a creator.
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What about all the other Gods, were they created or not?
Gods? Gods do not exists. there is no plural, there is only 1 God and that 1 is absolute it cannot be multiplied/divided or subjected to any mathematical rule.
Example; what created matter? do you think by any chance that matter (existence) suddenly popped up from non existence?
if so explain how.
the existence of your god is dependent upon my ability to explain the origins of matter

lol

you have offered nothing except paranoia. epic fail.

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#597313 Feb 1, 2013
Victor Belmont wrote:
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I know, yet you fail to present even one counter argument against my statements. So ur a hypocrite
you have merely copied apologetic, none of which is your thought

you have presented, faith, but not argument.

when you do present fact or argument I will discuss with you.

If you wish me to debate the apologetic, bring the men who created it, I have no desire to discuss it with you, for you merely steal others thoughts, and do not own the capacity to defend those thoughts.

you have no honor

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#597314 Feb 1, 2013
siehjin wrote:
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a convergence of evidence is not necessary, if the proof given is strong enough.
while there are other good reasons to believe in God, this is the reason which i consider the strongest. it convinced me when i was searching to find out if God existed, and continues to convince me today.
when i look at the beauty and complexity of the universe, i marvel that there are people like you, who can say that God doesn't exist. as far as i'm concerned, every new scientific discovery revealing how amazing our world is simply strengthens the case for the existence of God.
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simply labeling it pseudoscience and claiming it is illogical doesn't make it so.
explain to me where is the illogicality in expecting complex things to have an explanation for their existence? the universe in incredibly complex; logically it needs an explanation for its' existence!
the god you create is even more complex, where is your explanatin of it's existence?

the universe has always existed, it is infinite in scope, no god required

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#597315 Feb 1, 2013
Victor Belmont wrote:
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that does not solve its endlessnless, as u know the entire world's fresh water supply is 2.6% iirc. correct me if I'm wrong anyway this is eternal which in a way defies that.
one childish claim after another, no comprehension.

you are a boring uneducated child.

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#597316 Feb 1, 2013
Victor Belmont wrote:
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If u do not want to then simply u fail to come up with an explanation, as I was confused and u did not explain therefore u do not wish to go on any further..
you should go pray

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#597317 Feb 1, 2013
Victor Belmont wrote:
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False acquisition, I'm different from redneck, you could go study it if u believe....well why not a scholar+scientist believer study it then???
you are so much like RR, that I wonder if you are his sock

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#597318 Feb 1, 2013
Victor Belmont wrote:
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lol and I suppose you also think about the reverse of the word "God" into "Dog". well Allah is atop of all, hence created your mind which by that you are now using it for the non-good.
then you created your mind

I suggest you sue
Pete

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#597319 Feb 1, 2013
Well I for one can prove there is no stupid God!!!. In the bible, God destroyed the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah for their sins, yet God won't lay a finger on Las-Vegas. This city is more wicked then Sodom and Gomorrah ever thought about beeing. In fact, it's labeled "sin city" Yet that stupid God literally performs oral sex on them!!!. STUPID GOD IF HE DOES EXIST WHICH HE DON'T WILL OWE SODOM AND GOMORRAH A BIG BIG APOLOGY!!!!!...
Forum carlsbad nm

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#597320 Feb 1, 2013
socci wrote:
Another thing that must be understood is that GENESIS is the oldest text on the planet. The teevee will never tell you this, or report on anything proving the
Bible true. Yet, the Bible is true. For more truthful tv programming tune into an entirely different satellite across North America called Galaxy 19 FTA where almost anything goes and great Bible truths are found.
Babylon and the Bible
by Professor Walter J. Veith, PhD
Two hundred years ago, scholars doubted whether Babylon ever existed. The only record could be found in the Bible. Critics used the story of Babylon, and what they called its "non-historic
kings," to discount Scripture. However, Babylon was discovered and excavated in 1898.
We know today that Babylon was one of the first cities in the world, and founded by Nimrod, great-grandson of Noah (Genesis 10:9-10). Archaeologists have found his name on many inscriptions and tablets, while a massive head of Nimrod has been excavated near Calah on the Tigris River.
http://amazingdiscoveries.org/S-deception_arc...
Sumeria is located in the Land of Kish (Kush or Cush) founded by son of Noah's son Ham.
"Kish was occupied beginning in the Jemdet Nasr period (3100 BC), gaining prominence as one of the pre-eminent powers in the region during the early dynastic period.
The Sumerian king list states that it was the first city to have kings following the deluge, beginning with Jushur."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kish_%28Sumer%29
"Cush, son of Ham. The Empire of Kush to the south of Egypt is known from at least 1970 BC, but this name has also been associated by some with the Kassites who inhabited the Zagros area of Mesopotamia, the Sumerian city of Kish in the Land of Kish."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sons_of_Noah#Ham...
"The Sumerian Kish, the first city established in Mesopotamia after the Flood, took its name from the man known in the Bible as Cush. The first kingdom established after the Flood was Kish, and the name "Kish" appears often on clay tablets. The early post-Flood Sumerian king lists say that "kingship descended from heaven to Kish" after the Flood."
continues:
http://davelivingston.com/nimrod.htm
www.noahs-ark.tv/noahs-ark-flood-creation-sto...
• Who wrote Genesis
www.rae.org/FAQ09.htm
www.trueorigin.org/tablet.asp
www.dtl.org/bible/ng-post/gilgamesh.htm
www.specialtyinterests.net/Toledoth.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiseman_hypothes...
(video)
http://archive.org/details/WhoWroteTheBookOfG...
The Bible is our history book. Life is written. Our ancestors.
Our laws. Jobs. Numbers. Answers. Our Future. Prophecy.
Reading and understanding the bible is education.
God teaches us how to do his will.
The munks know more.

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#597321 Feb 1, 2013
Victor Belmont wrote:
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Why not? that well is unique unlike others, which is eternal and remained that way since 2000BC
Also you argued that the power of imagination is strong that any human can image God in his own perspective and subject to whatever he thinks, well I replied yes the power of imagination is strong, but it will never reach unless u prove me wrong by imaging a new color in your mind right now.Can u or can u not? if not then I have proved my point.
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Imagining a "new color" will not prove you wrong, nor, will it prove you right.
Imagination is imagination, that is where your deity resides.
it is just more stupid copied apologetic, that he does not even understand.

he is an uneducated child, one who has no honor.

he doubts his god.

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#597322 Feb 2, 2013
Victor Belmont wrote:
@Mylan We are not fools, for believing in something without evidence does not mean that, it simply shows that we depend on something much greater than evidence; willpower and faith. Also the evidence is enough for me as I see the world in a different perspective unlike you, I see everything as a wonderful creation of a

creator.
you are a fool, you believe out of fear and greed, devoting a life to a myth and lie,

you have no evidence for the god you advance. I see you and your kind as the last vestige of an evolutionary cycle. Your beliefs are the cause of most of the evil in this word. May allah soon grant you, the eternal reward you have earned

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#597323 Feb 2, 2013
Victor Belmont wrote:
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lol that does not prove anything, what about the differences? why not show them? Look up the differences and u'll see for yourself how Islam has nothing to do with hinduism.
the abrahamic faiths are based upon older mythology.

stolen.

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#597324 Feb 2, 2013
Victor Belmont wrote:
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No it does not, my common sense is far much better than spiderman's spider sense, never told me there a boogieman
if the most universal trait of "believers" is paranoia, the second must be Hubris.

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#597325 Feb 2, 2013
Victor Belmont wrote:
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Oh yes your right, and the brave ones are always the ones who die first, people see them as fools, yet we see them and ourselves as the holders of courage, justice and the path of virtue.
why have you not given your life to allah

you coward

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#597326 Feb 2, 2013
Victor Belmont wrote:
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but you believe that the power of this imagination can surpass what your example of an imagined bridge.
your mind is so powerful, and your desire for power so encompassing, that you have imagined your god into reality.

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#597327 Feb 2, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Pa_POW!
Thanks!
Catholics are part of Christianity but certainly don't consider themselves Christian.
Idiot.
you are wrong

Catholics consider that they are christian.

they consider you an apostate, not a christian, not saved, an expression of satan.

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