<quoted text> Speaking of... A theist was seated next to an atheist on the airplane when the theist turned to the atheist and said, "Let's talk." "I've heard that flights go quicker if you strike up a conversation with your fellow passenger." The atheist, who had just opened her book, closed it slowly and said to the theist, "What would you like to talk about?" "Oh, I don't know", said the sly theist. "How about god?" Amused, the atheist replied. "That could be an interesting topic. But let me ask you a question first, A horse, a cow, and a deer all eat grass, the same stuff. Yet a deer excretes little pellets, while a cow turns out a flat patty, and a horse produces clumps of dried grass. Why do you suppose that is?" The theist thinks about it, and seeing an opportunity to steer the conversation back to god, says, "Hmmm, I have no idea, but I am sure god had a reason for making it so." To which the atheist replies: "Do you really feel qualified to discuss the concept of god(s) when you don't know shit?"
A young woman teacher with obvious liberal tendencies explains to her class of small children that she is an atheist. She asks her class if they are atheists too. Not really knowing what atheism is but wanting to be like their teacher, their hands explode into the air like fleshy fireworks.
There is, however, one exception. A beautiful girl named Lucy has not gone along with the crowd. The teacher asks her why she has decided to be different.
"Because I'm not an atheist."
"Then", asks the teacher, "What are you?"
"I'm a Christian."
The teacher is a little perturbed now, her face slightly red. She asks Lucy why she is a Christian.
"Well, I was brought up knowing and loving Jesus. My mom is a Christian, and my dad is a Christian, so I am a Christian."
The teacher is now angry. "That's no reason, she says loudly."
The teacher asks, "What if your mom was a moron, and your dad was a moron. What would you be then?"
She paused, and smiled. Then, says Lucy, "I'd be an atheist."
<quoted text>Yeah- you probably have well over 2 billion IDIOTS agreeing with you that the sky is blue, too. Guess what? You're ALL wrong. Not ALWAYS safety in numbers, RR, though weak little follower, lemming and sheep that you are has deluded yourself into thinking so.
What, would you prefer I say that the sky appears to be blue? Like the sun appears to rise & set although it technically doesn't?
I'm looking at a clear, blue, California sky right now.
Explain to me how this "good aquifer" can actually produce eternal water, I've studied aquifers, they never are continuously permanently the same, they change during time, while the zamzam aquifer did not.
<quoted text>Look who's talking. The MORON who actually thinks the sky IS blue because it APPEARS/LOOKS blue. Speaking of trying, such idiocy and ignorance as you constantly display here is incredibly trying.
1st law of thermodynamics.
energy cannot be created or destroyed. it is ever present, or omnipresent. also implies that it exist everywhere at all times.
theory of relativity e = m(c * c)
basically states that energy and matter are the same thing. energy is a form of matter and matter is a form of energy.
<quoted text> The government will NOT allow you to study it. There are certain sections where common people are not even allowed to go. It is NO miracle. All you have done is start with a conclusion - and then looked for things to back it up. You are no better than redneck.
False acquisition, I'm different from redneck, you could go study it if u believe....well why not a scholar+scientist believer study it then???
<quoted text>So just where were you headed when you struck up a conversation with the atheist seated next to you? I mean, after all, if there is ANYONE here who doesn't know SH*T about ANYTHING, that would be YOU.
Arguing with a Deist is like wrestling with a pig.
<quoted text> What, would you prefer I say that the sky appears to be blue? Like the sun appears to rise & set although it technically doesn't? I'm looking at a clear, blue, California sky right now. It's blue. WTF?
why do you not worship melchizedek, the unbegotten son of god? the founder of the order after which jesus was a high priest
3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.
<quoted text>No miracle, and logic and math are not your friend here. You apparently didn't research this to deeply. What's the matter, you afraid that "god" might get mad at you? Some specific proportions in the bodies of many animals (including humans and parts of the shells of mollusks and cephalopods are often claimed to be in the golden ratio. There is a large variation in the real measures of these elements in specific individuals, however, and the proportion in question is often significantly different from the golden ratio. The ratio of successive phalangeal bones of the digits and the metacarpal bone has been said to approximate the golden ratio. The nautilus shell, the construction of which proceeds in a logarithmic spiral, is often cited, usually with the idea that any logarithmic spiral is related to the golden ratio, but sometimes with the claim that each new chamber is proportioned by the golden ratio relative to the previous one; however, measurements of nautilus shells do not support this claim. References: Ivan Moscovich, Ivan Moscovich Mastermind Collection: The Hinged Square & Other Puzzles, New York: Sterling, 2004 Peterson, Ivars. "Sea shell spirals". Science News.
hmmmmmm ok I agree. This conv has been shut down, oh and I did research it well, I just did not expect your response would be soooo uhhhhh nvm (>_<) you won this argument ok?
But I still have much more, while this is nothing compared to the others, since this is something I alone believed in and NOT the muslim scholars.
<quoted text> Explain to me how this "good aquifer" can actually produce eternal water, I've studied aquifers, they never are continuously permanently the same, they change during time, while the zamzam aquifer did not.
islam is rooted in hinduism as is; of course, christianity.
<quoted text> not so. my existence, for example, can be taken as proof of the existence of my parents. another example, previously given, is that the existence of a painting is proof of the existence of an artist. in what way does the statement "the existence of the universe and everything in it is proof for the existence of God" make an exemption in logic?
Yes, but we also know that complex organisms tend to have parents, it's not a presupposition, it's simply applying something we know from facts. The existence of a god though is a presupposition, there is no evidence suggesting it, so it can be dismissed as mythology until there is solid evidence supporting it. You can't work backwards, and a human, you in other words, is only evidence of humans, your parents.