Prove there's a god.

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KittenKoder wrote:
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You are being backwards again. Believing in something without evidence is very easy to do, and it's a poor excuse for being naive and ignorant. Testing and analyzing evidence, that's the hard work, and you're too lazy to do that.
On the contrary, it is hard to believe in something that is not there to be seen, thus requires a lot of faith and willpower, which you lack. analyzing evidence and interpreting things IS the relaxing thing for your mind, because you can't rest until you think you've understood everything, well u won't, your not God. Ignorant? I won't go there, as u know you've been ignorant since I met you denying anything I present without analyzing it or giving the chance to think, you immediately refute to anything I provide. Naive...your like a child, I must come to you like your parent and teach you why/how/what is or God exists.

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Aura Mytha wrote:
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I was going to say ,there is nothing about Simon that proves him to be anything other than just another brainwashed and deluded fundie.
This should have said..

I was going to say ,there is nothing about Victor that proves him to be anything other than just another brainwashed and deluded fundie.

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Victor Belmont wrote:
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meh, still I do not see why they must not think its a miracle, I won't blame them. That well is truly a wonder of wonders.
actually it`s a hand excavated hole in the ground with water in it...much like every other well.

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KittenKoder wrote:
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You accepted a book only because your books says it's true. That's not sufficient evidence to support any notion. It's called circular reasoning, and is a fallacy.
False, not only that, but because of the history...ancestors.....other books...common sense....even instincts and nature, and in the end all fit together. Everything, I know my purpose, and proud to serve Allah. It is time that you know yours.

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Victor Belmont wrote:
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I never lied, have u read what the scientists say???.......
A research was done to discover the origin of Zamzam water. The dimensions of the well were taken. The water level came up to a five feet, eight inches manís shoulders. The man who was not allowed to dip his head into the water reported that he could not find any inlet or pipeline inside the well from where the water came in. Even when aspiring the water with a big transfer pump, nothing was observed. The man was asked to enter the well again, he stood in one place while the water was pumped, suddenly, he felt the sand moving beneath his feet and it was the same in every points of the well. The water flew into the well from the bed equally at every point keeping the level of the water stable.
Where is the souce tell meeeeeee..no valid findings nothing no clue at all is this not a MIRACLE!!??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquifer#Groundwa...
http://www.nrcan.gc.ca/sites/www.nrcan.gc.ca....
https://www.google.com/search...
http://inspectapedia.com/water/1518s.jpg
http://mbmggwic.mtech.edu/sqlserver/v11/help/...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_well
http://www.edwardsaquifer.net/glossary.html

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actually it takes an extremely gullible person to believe in something hard to believe in.
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"
a gullible can't have strong faith and will power, therefore he cannot believe in, or just thinks he believes..and extraordinary evidence..you mean miracles, I've already shown u, I'll then search for more to show your show u.
MisterCharrington wrote:
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there is no evidence for a god/gods
the sun, it`s a god. science discoveres the sun is just a small unremarkable star. god moves the tides, science discovers thaat the tides are simply the gravitational influence of the moon. The `religions` state that the universe is 10 thousand years old, god told them so. Science discovers the age of the universe is around 13 billion years old.
If you read the history of Islam, you'd know well that it has come against those beliefs and falsified them, by then informing them of their True God "Allah". Tell me then, did science discover the creator of creation who is non-matter or any other shit u can think of?
MisterCharrington wrote:
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Religion/god is nothing more than an ever shrinking pocket of human ignorance attempting to explain things which our ancestors felt needed the presence of a god to explain. The religious are simply a throwback to a time of global ignorance, unfortunately some of them see ignorance as a virtue and attempt to instil it into their children.
And where is your evidence to this? supporting detail? yes there is common sense I'm with you SO I will accept this from you for now..I'll open it in the future and see what I have for you. Not that I don't know what to see, but I'm interested in saving this for later. Just for your information, I'll be countering an example you'll provide for this statement.

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MisterCharrington wrote:
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Prove your book is holy and the bible isn`t or the torah isn`t or the bhagavad gita isn`t.
My proof is...Contradictions are present in the bible and torah but not in the quran. The bhagavad gita is seriously waaay off, I have read some of it not all and it rly was crap no offence to the religion though.
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is your god 1% proved?
What?Why?How?Where did you get this? or else clarify your question because my answer is....NOT PROVED as I said God required you to believe not prove him as a sibject to something that can be used in logic or fits your brain.
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So I follow gods plan for my path...but I have freewill?
yes, ofcourse. right not you can believe yes or no? thats free will. if your a believer you can make any decision your always free, example; your choice repent now or later, risking dying without repenting..
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you`re just not getting it are you?
If I'm not, care to explain?

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Victor Belmont wrote:
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a gullible can't have strong faith and will power, therefore he cannot believe in, or just thinks he believes..and extraordinary evidence..you mean miracles, I've already shown u, I'll then search for more to show your show u.
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If you read the history of Islam, you'd know well that it has come against those beliefs and falsified them, by then informing them of their True God "Allah". Tell me then, did science discover the creator of creation who is non-matter or any other shit u can think of?
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And where is your evidence to this? supporting detail? yes there is common sense I'm with you SO I will accept this from you for now..I'll open it in the future and see what I have for you. Not that I don't know what to see, but I'm interested in saving this for later. Just for your information, I'll be countering an example you'll provide for this statement.
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Jan 30, 2013
 
Hukt on Fonix wrote:
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It's demonstrated itself as valuable and effective to that end.
Your religion, not so much.
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Victor Belmont wrote:
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My proof is...Contradictions are present in the bible and torah but not in the quran. The bhagavad gita is seriously waaay off, I have read some of it not all and it rly was crap no offence to the religion though.
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What?Why?How?Where did you get this? or else clarify your question because my answer is....NOT PROVED as I said God required you to believe not prove him as a sibject to something that can be used in logic or fits your brain.
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yes, ofcourse. right not you can believe yes or no? thats free will. if your a believer you can make any decision your always free, example; your choice repent now or later, risking dying without repenting..
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If I'm not, care to explain?
So you are on a thread which is called "Prove there`s a god" and you freely acknowlege that you cannot prove your god. Well that`s honest.

Without any proof to convince me, a poor unrepentant infidel you say I should join your particular club, not the jews, or the sunni or the christians who have no proof either, but I should join your little club because all the rest are wrong.

so gods plan was to have me created as a non believer? god knows all, he would know I was going to be a non believer. Did he create me to have someone to punish? Not a very nice guy is he?

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MisterCharrington wrote:
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I think you`re like that because you have proven your intellectual dishonesty.
If you think about it, your the only one capable of such because your an atheist, I'm not and so I have to stick to my obligations, no dishonesty here, unless you deeply think that I'm the ultimate evil who tries and brainwahses every1 into believing, seriously if u did believe is there a consquence or ANYTHING bad AT ALL!!! carefully read the Islam laws and you will see they are currently the best. I said that because, until the Mahdi shows, only then will the true and perfect Islam be established. Because right now we do not believe our religion is perfect, we believe it is the closest to the truth for now.
MisterCharrington wrote:
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I didn`t say that your god couldn`t make 2+2=5, you attempt to make 2+2=5 yourself to enable your god to exist, because your argument is fundamentally flawed.
Thats a point of view. Point out my flaw, in your eyes, yes you see it as a flaw, but the truth can be difficult to attain, which is why u should allow room a little and not block your head from everything like skeptics.
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I didn`t bring up any paradox, I simply described your god according to your scripture and asked some pertinent questions.
Your god is the eternally self-contradicting paradox.
how can it be eternally since u claim it does not exist? your contradicting yourself here.

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Al Garcia wrote:
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name a group responsible for angry shiites, ruptures pipe lines and jihad......
Um...

Um.......

Wait, I know the one!

Um...

What are the 7-11 clerks?

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Victor Belmont wrote:
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YES!!!(:
If you like to know, that is one of the reasons we have interpretations and different views on versus in the quran or other books, Yes dogma and obedience but also some that are left for us to critically think and share about our views and beliefs. The most MAJOR thing about it is in front of you...Sunni Shiite Wahhabi Dirzi Sophi etc why are all these present its simply because we do not all agree on everything. Why must we study sharia and fiq? those are actually critical thinking. Also one of the biggest mysteries that some say its God's secret that is why we do not undertsand are the letters used in some verses of the quran NOT words letter that are must be read when willing to read the soora.
Sunny Shit Wannabe Dizzy Sophie?

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Mylan wrote:
<quoted text>Well it's nice to see you finally admit that "god" is evil. There should be a way to frame your post.
It means....

Oh, nevermind.

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scaritual wrote:
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No, the well is an actual thing, your deity is just an imagined thing.
One can be tested, verified and shown to exist, the other is a product of your imagination.
The power of imagination is strong I agree, but will never reach the wonders of God; here is something for you which I dare you to be able to -

I want you to try your best, hardest and put the most effort into imagining a "new color" CAN YOU??? I'm willing to convert to atheism now! Only if you can prove it and tell me if you've managed to do so.

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p-o-p quiz wrote:
<quoted text>Except that your god doesn't empirically exist, rendering your entire post moot.
Based on my observation & experience, God dies exist.

And billions of people agree with that.

So....

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1) Thou shalt have no other gods before noon.
2) Thou shalt not carve the turkey to look like Jesus.
3) Thou shalt not take it in the veins.
4) Remember Black Sabbath.
5) Honor thighs of mothers.
6) Thou shalt not kill buzz.
7) Thou shalt not comment on adultery.
8) Thou shalt not bittorrent.
9) Thou shalt not bear false teeth.
10) Thou shalt not double dip.
Hey!

You forgot 5.5

5.5: Don't cock block the MILF.

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Victor Belmont wrote:
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What is Chritianity? oh a religion that believe God gives birth...Why not call Him Mother?
HA HA HA !!!!

Your ignorance IS bliss, isn't it?

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Victor Belmont wrote:
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The power of imagination is strong I agree, but will never reach the wonders of God; here is something for you which I dare you to be able to -
I want you to try your best, hardest and put the most effort into imagining a "new color" CAN YOU??? I'm willing to convert to atheism now! Only if you can prove it and tell me if you've managed to do so.
I do hope for your own safety that you`re on a secure internet connection because that one sentence, "I`m willing to convert to atheism now!" could be your undoing even on the internet in many islamic theocracies.

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Victor Belmont wrote:
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The power of imagination is strong I agree, but will never reach the wonders of God; here is something for you which I dare you to be able to -
I want you to try your best, hardest and put the most effort into imagining a "new color" CAN YOU??? I'm willing to convert to atheism now! Only if you can prove it and tell me if you've managed to do so.
I have no desire to convert you.

This is the primary difference between you and I.

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