OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#595407 Jan 29, 2013
MisterCharrington wrote:
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The book "Jefferson Lies" by David Barton which attempted to drag Jefferson into American christian lore was dropped by the Thomas Nelson (a conservative chrstian publishing house) after being described as "the least credible history book in print".
They get their fact checking ethics from their in depth examination of `biblical facts`.
Not only do so many Christians prove that they live their lives believing that ignorance is bliss, they make it that much worse by being proud of their ignorance.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#595408 Jan 29, 2013
siehjin wrote:
the existence of the universe and everything in it is proof that God exists.
So's yer tost. I heard it said, an it's true I'm sure. Life git's tedjus don't it?

Ther's a mouse chaw'n on the pantry door
When he git's through he'll sure be sore...
Coz ther ain't a darned thing in ther.

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#595409 Jan 29, 2013
MisterCharrington wrote:
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you need the name of the author to refute his argument?
I wonder why? LOL
because he lacks the intellect to address anything with his mind, he looks up apologetic, but fails to attribute his theft.

Interestingly his apologetic is indistinguishable from that of christianity, proving that they are the same religion, the same vile god, and the same failed morality.

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#595410 Jan 29, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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1. I'm not catholic and could give a f_ck less what a pope has to say.
2. The crusades was a looooong time ago.
christianity has been a filthy religion for a looooong time

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#595411 Jan 29, 2013
Victor Belmont wrote:
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Its simple, so that I can refresh my memory about who he was, and how he was not able to use it as permanent proof.
you forgot the problem, but you have a prepared canned answer, how honest of you

you sir have neither intellect nor honor,

you god is a projection of your psyche, that is why your god is so vile.

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#595412 Jan 29, 2013
Al Garcia wrote:
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Mylan if I may ask you a personal question.
Do you believe that God exists?
you do your (usual) self a disservice with this question

what god?
which god?

rational skeptics evaluate

religitards believe

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#595413 Jan 29, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Liar.
I never said that only races can be minorities.
You're a sick puppy.
And what was HILARIOUS in you claiming that homosexuals are not a minority is that you posted that right AFTER saying that homosexuals represent no more than 1% of the population.

And there were quite a few posts about what defines a minority and many definitions provided to you which proved you WRONG in reference to you having stated that only races can be minorities.

And this is NOT the first time you have claimed never having said something which you most definitely did say.

So, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt by saying again that you might be afflicted with the early onset of senility; if it's not that, then you are the one who is a LIAR and in a REALLY big way.

Pick your poison, RR.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#595414 Jan 29, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>What difference does that make regarding being addicted to gambling?
I mean...is being addicted to ANYTHING a good thing?
I Know.

I been try'n ta give up all that easy money an such...but I jist can't seem ta break the habit o' smil'n when I looks at the balance line.
An all the snivel'n, cry'n and name call'n when ya sweeps all them chips in the cart ta head fer the cashier is downright depress'n too.

That's prolly why I has a few (free)drinks(an buy the whole table too) afore I git's ta end'n the lechery. Softens the blow, so ta speak.

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#595415 Jan 29, 2013
Victor Belmont wrote:
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yet I must repost this again..
A child becoming sick is also a test...You must be thankful to Allah
You are a person with no morals.

You are mentaly sick and should be kept, for your own good, and for the protection of society.

May allah grant that you are never given children.

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#595416 Jan 29, 2013
Clementia wrote:
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Yeh, but i bet u they weren't trained in the art of lovemaking! ;-)
Don't u know anything about the kamasutra? Never mind, u'll learn!:-p
redneck knows he is special to god

he has been touched

“I never claimed to be Perfect”

Since: Nov 10

just better than yesterday

#595417 Jan 29, 2013
karl44 wrote:
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you do your (usual) self a disservice with this question
what god?
which god?
rational skeptics evaluate
religitards believe
Thanks Karl.
it could be taken to mean "any" god if that is what someone is
taken to understand.
if Muslim then Allah, and so forth.
it's not a hard or tricky question.
Just a basic question is all.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#595418 Jan 29, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text> I Know.
I been try'n ta give up all that easy money an such...but I jist can't seem ta break the habit o' smil'n when I looks at the balance line.
An all the snivel'n, cry'n and name call'n when ya sweeps all them chips in the cart ta head fer the cashier is downright depress'n too.
That's prolly why I has a few (free)drinks(an buy the whole table too) afore I git's ta end'n the lechery. Softens the blow, so ta speak.
Enjoy riding the wave, BT.....but waves break apart and collapse- it's only a question of time.

“Ditat Deus”

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#595419 Jan 29, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text> Nope. Too hard ta spell.
Lol I cheated, I used spell check.....

“Ditat Deus”

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#595420 Jan 29, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>Who is trying to re-write history? Who are these "people" you speak of in your delusional state of your self-inflicted persecution complex?
No, DUMMY- what is TRULY obvious is that at best, the founding fathers were ambivalent about their own personal religious beliefs, and at worst, claimed to believe one thing or another to pander to the budding nation at large.
Let me ask you this, you silly lemming: if the founding fathers were known to be atheists, would you be one?
If the founding fathers were known to be Jewish, would you have converted to Judaism?
Why does it matter to you SO much what the founding fathers did or did not believe? It's SO obvious you use that to influence what you believe.
What matters is the integrity & honesty of history. MOST of the founding fathers were religious men. Period.

I don't know who these "people" are, but if you do a search fur the religion ad the founding fathers, you get sites that "show" they weren't religious, when in fact they were.

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#595421 Jan 29, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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What's there to read about? A jihad is a holy war against non-believers.
You Muslims are still doing what Catholics did 800 years ago.
of course, it is an abrahamic religion

the same failed morality

“Ditat Deus”

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#595422 Jan 29, 2013
karl44 wrote:
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73 suicide bombers all locked in the same room
You're gonna convert now, huh?

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#595423 Jan 29, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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What matters is the integrity & honesty of history. MOST of the founding fathers were religious men. Period.
I don't know who these "people" are, but if you do a search fur the religion ad the founding fathers, you get sites that "show" they weren't religious, when in fact they were.
What you state as if it is fact is not necessarily so.

What you say about sites that "show" they were not religious; I could say the same about the sites that "show" they were.

Again- what difference does that make to you and why should whether or not the founding fathers were religious or not matter to you?

If nothing else- and aside from WHATEVER their personal religious beliefs were, there is no mistaking that they were ALL in favor of a clear separation of church and state when founding the USA.

But, pathetic follower that you are, you stomp your foot and insist they were religious men- as if that gives YOU being a (so-called) religious man more credibility.

What's the matter? Your beliefs aren't as credible as they need to be for no other reason than being YOUR beliefs?

You simply HAVE to play: Follow the leader(s)?

Baa, baa......there's a good lil' sheep, RR that you truly are.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#595424 Jan 29, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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What matters is the integrity & honesty of history. MOST of the founding fathers were religious men. Period.
I don't know who these "people" are, but if you do a search fur the religion ad the founding fathers, you get sites that "show" they weren't religious, when in fact they were.
"One of the many attacks on our country from the Religious Right is the claim that our country is a Christian Nation...not just that the majority of people are Christians, but that the country itself was founded by Christians, for Christians.

However, a little research into American history will show that this statement is a lie. Those people who spread this lie are known as Christian Revisionists. They are attempting to rewrite history, in much the same way as holocaust deniers are. The men responsible for building the foundation of the United States were men of The Enlightenment, not men of Christianity. They were Deists who did not believe the bible was true.

********They were Freethinkers who relied on their reason, not their faith.********

None of the Founding Fathers were atheists.

Most of the Founders were Deists, which is to say they thought the universe had a creator, but that he does not concern himself with the daily lives of humans, and does not directly communicate with humans, either by revelation or by sacred books. They spoke often of God,(Nature's God or the God of Nature), but this was not the God of the bible.

They did not deny that there was a person called Jesus, and praised him for his benevolent teachings, but they flatly denied his divinity.

Some people speculate that if Charles Darwin had lived a century earlier, the Founding Fathers would have had a basis for accepting naturalistic origins of life, and they would have been atheists.

We'll never know; but by reading their own writings, it's clear that most of them were opposed to the bible, and the teachings of Christianity in particular.

Yes, there were Christian men among the Founders.

Just as Congress removed Thomas Jefferson's words that condemned the practice of slavery in the colonies, they also altered his wording regarding equal rights. His original wording is here in blue italics: "All men are created equal and independent. From that equal creation they derive rights inherent and inalienable." Congress changed that phrase, increasing its religious overtones: "All men are created equal. They are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights." But we are not governed by the Declaration of Independence-- it is a historical document, not a constitutional one."

http://freethought.mbdojo.com/foundingfathers...

Now, RR- in your usual and customary fashion, do be sure to shoot the messenger (the site I used) while ignoring the message.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#595425 Jan 29, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>Enjoy riding the wave, BT.....but waves break apart and collapse- it's only a question of time.
Stock market shows that. "Know when walk away-know when ta run". Education an application is the path ta success...in ANY venture. Know the waters yer gonna part. Fools rarely git ta see the other side o' the storm ther folly leads 'em int'a.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#595426 Jan 29, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Lol I cheated, I used spell check.....
LOL!

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