Prove there's a god.

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#594801 Jan 28, 2013
Mylan wrote:
<quoted text>I have often thought about this, sort of like a puzzle, and I have come to one conclusion that answers the paradox. Everyday you make hundreds of choices. Anyone may have a dramatic impact on your life. If you look at life as if it were a series of city streets, and you choose one and travel down it.
Now each "street" would give your life a different outcome. If you chose to go down one then it might lead to a dead end. If you chose to go down another it might lead to a unexpected surprise. Chose another and something bad might happen to you. Etc. Etc. So life can be predetermined AND allow free will at the same time, because you chose which outcome through your decisions. Or another way to explain it, while each "street" you choose to travel down would lead to a certain predestined outcome, you would still have free will in making choices throughout your life.
the god knows which choice you will make, before you make it.

can you therefor make a choice unknown to the god, or only choices known to the god?

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#594802 Jan 28, 2013
Victor Belmont wrote:
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Don't give me your history, read the qur'an now show me a verse I won't accept what u say since ur either trolling or seriously insane.
your silly book makes claims about gods, with no proof

Since: Jan 13

Kuwait, Kuwait

#594803 Jan 28, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I am Ripper... Tearer... Slasher... Gouger. I am the Teeth in the Darkness, the Talons in the Night. Mine is Strength... and Lust... and Power! I AM REDNECK!
very well performed ;) My turn!!

I am the fleshbiter, the bonecrusher, the skullbreaker, the doombringer..Light, darkness. The two sides of existence locked in an eternal struggle for the hearts and minds of the living. Each side claims its share, but what of those caught in between. Which way will they turn?

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#594804 Jan 28, 2013
Victor Belmont wrote:
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I repeat
"All we know for sure is that for as long as we as a species are on this planet that we will continue to try to learn as much about ourselves, and our planet as possible." That's exactly what I was waiting for u to say. Now u suggest this is acceptable? It is not. As you will struggle throughout your life forever you can never ever prove God's existence or disprove 100% certain with full accuracy. As I said before it is part of the test that u should believe in God with strong faith. Let me bring another example with the same idea. Do you know when you will die? no..therefore u should try and be good support your family as much as you can for u may die without repentance or atonement. I come to and say do good now not later, u might die now, seek forgive now, you don'thave a contract showing you what time you'll die same it is now we don't know when the day of judgement is just be sure to have faith (this is more towards pascal's wager) in fact yes what do u think of pascal's wager since u like logic and reasoning u should follow it (:
"That is very easy to prove. Anyone who is honestly interested in this can find many sources for verification." if you could u would..Show me!
I'll be damned. These guys hired the same apologetic team, that did the chirstian lies.

Since: Jan 13

Kuwait, Kuwait

#594805 Jan 28, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Are they talking about lil ole me?
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Yup. Atheists seem to get their rocks off by blaming God for everything negative, like "How could god allow children to get cancer?" or "How could god let my beloved dog die?"
BUT
They never thank God for anything good. Ever. They need to put human attributes & limitations on a god they say they don't believe in.
The funniest thing abut atheists is that they're usually the ones talking the most about God.
Exactly my point, which they have not yet replied about this subject.

Well said.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

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#594806 Jan 28, 2013
MisterCharrington wrote:
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there`s no downside to for god is there?
If there is EVER a bumper harvest in Africa the christians will be all "praise the lawd".
When a tsunami kills 100.000 people, "the lawd moves in mysterious ways"
it`s not normal to rationalise these kinds of thought processes.
Ether god is omnipotent or he isn`t. If he is then he is responsible for everything by either act or omission, if he isn`t then he`s not god or he`s the god who isn`t there, which is the one I favour.
There you go again...

Blame God for the 100,000 deaths by tsunami... Becaause God forced them all to live there, right?

He isn't there to wipe your ass everytime, is He? Does that make you upset with Him?

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

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#594807 Jan 28, 2013
karl44 wrote:
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the god knows which choice you will make, before you make it.
can you therefor make a choice unknown to the god, or only choices known to the god?
Do you honestly think a human can make a choice without God knowing about it?
Pat

East Granby, CT

#594808 Jan 28, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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There you go again...
Blame God for the 100,000 deaths by tsunami... Becaause God forced them all to live there, right?
He isn't there to wipe your ass everytime, is He? Does that make you upset with Him?
I love it when a tornado wipes out a church full of death deniers and then all the fools who survived then claim how lucky they were and then proceed to thank their loving god for sparing them. LMAO

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#594809 Jan 28, 2013
Has anyone seen this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Anonymous Operation Last Resort

Since: May 11

Glasgow, UK

#594810 Jan 28, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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There you go again...
Blame God for the 100,000 deaths by tsunami... Becaause God forced them all to live there, right?
He isn't there to wipe your ass everytime, is He? Does that make you upset with Him?
...isn`t it strange how a god would need an imbecile like you to make excuses for him?

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#594811 Jan 28, 2013
Victor Belmont wrote:
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Before u just deny my logic, at least support what u say, provide an example. Show me something that exists that has not been created. Or are you Implying that you do not believe in creations at all?
what in hell do you mean "created"

Since: Jan 13

Kuwait, Kuwait

#594812 Jan 28, 2013
MisterCharrington wrote:
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there`s no downside to for god is there?
If there is EVER a bumper harvest in Africa the christians will be all "praise the lawd".
When a tsunami kills 100.000 people, "the lawd moves in mysterious ways"
it`s not normal to rationalise these kinds of thought processes.
Ether god is omnipotent or he isn`t. If he is then he is responsible for everything by either act or omission, if he isn`t then he`s not god or he`s the god who isn`t there, which is the one I favour.
I see you mention Omniscience,Omnipotence,Omnibe nevolence

Tell me, since I believe God carries all these attributes, is their a anything you can point out that defies my belief?

Since: Jan 13

Kuwait, Kuwait

#594813 Jan 28, 2013
karl44 wrote:
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your silly book makes claims about gods, with no proof
I have already stated before many proofs, which you deliberately ignored, now you restate your opinion over and over again, go back and look at my proofs.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

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#594814 Jan 28, 2013
Pat wrote:
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I love it when a tornado wipes out a church full of death deniers and then all the fools who survived then claim how lucky they were and then proceed to thank their loving god for sparing them. LMAO
You love it when a tornado kill a church full of people?!?

You're a certifed piece of shit.

Since: Jan 13

Kuwait, Kuwait

#594815 Jan 28, 2013
@mistercharrington - what do you think of this? I did not hear from you about it.

A child becoming sick is also a test...You must be thankful to Allah Always in everytime of happyness and suffering read. That small child having cancer or anything first of all. Gets into heaven if he dies. Second it lives, the child will have a stronger will and patience than you. Third as I said it is a test for you..will you curse God or accept what God does. God has brought you this child, it is not YOURS sure u worked a little but the rest was a blessing to you, he has simply taken it back. Plus there are always advantages to everything. for instance someone who is blind is refrained from sinning through his eyes. Someone who is deaf can not overhear or spy with his ears. I'm not saying its better, but there are always reasons that are far beyond our reasoning. The problem here is that you always try to compare yourselves to God, just because we are intelligent beings, do not forget who is your creator. If you created sand can it surpass you in shape and figure? God has created you and your brain therefore you will never surpass or even come near him by your wisdom. Unless HE has allowed it.
And that child who is sick is never left or forgotten, God watches all and loves those who keep their divinity towards him. In your case your saying the cry of the lonely oppressed ones is never heard and the oppressor gets away with it...sadly this gives atheists some evil ideas since they don't believe in God..this is another discussion anyways lastly this is also a sign of Gods powers that even the new born can be defected yet they can still live happily, for example look at Nick Vujicic he has tetra amelia syndrome but he is one of the happyist of the happyists out there. How do you reply to that?
Also it is part of life cycle yes, I mean people like you think its better and better if doctors keep on finding cures and antidotes for living and living as much as possible, but have you asked yourself why diseases exist then? Its not nice thinking this way but its true (you like this idea..) diseases help lower the population which help in sooooooo many things u can think of.
stretch of logic...you go back into facts..tell me I also forgot to say this to KittenKoder did Aristotel and Newton and others have fasts back then? no they were thinking much beyond facts until then they managed to prove what they had. You are now like the men back then who think that we are loons but on the day of judgement the exact will happen to was newton and others proved many ages ago.

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#594816 Jan 28, 2013
Victor Belmont wrote:
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Well then where did they come from, or how were they formed?
Ingot the mighty forms rocks inside the bowels of the earth and places them in the bottom of river-streams when he is done. That is not his real name, he gets angry if his real name is used, he wishes to be honored in private.

“O'si yo!”

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#594817 Jan 28, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Naw, OCB has illegal aliens mowing her yard. Why? "it's cheap"
hahahahaha thats funny.

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#594818 Jan 28, 2013
Victor Belmont wrote:
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And how were those created? basically u know the rest we will ultimately reach the point where you say; we have not discovered it yet..Well bare in mind that your not immortal, u will die u must believe in something before actually seeing it. I remeber this again which iirc mentioned earlier before which no one paid attention too. You love facts and logic, I simply ask what is your point of view about Pascal's wager?
Pascal was making a joke at believers.

“O'si yo!”

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#594819 Jan 28, 2013
mishi ginebig wrote:
<quoted text>son of mary is dead
the scapegoat got away and died in the wilderness
where have you been all my life?
sorry i don't do Bizarre.

Since: Jan 13

Kuwait, Kuwait

#594820 Jan 28, 2013
karl44 wrote:
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what in hell do you mean "created"
Oh yes!! I have driven kitten off, in which she refused to participate in what I came up for her. First of all I must know. Do you believe in creations?

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