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#594387 Jan 27, 2013
lightbeamrider wrote:
The Civil War, WW1 and WW2 were not religious wars.
Slavery was the catalyst for the civil war. There are many similarities between slavery and religion.

The cause of World War 1 was a visit to Serbia from Austria's Archduke where he was assassinated by one of many angry Serbians who was mistreated by the Austrian Government. They felt mistreated because the Austrian Government enforced higher taxes to pay for churches. On the Western Front there was certainly no religious aspect to what went on. However, the Western Front was NOT the only front in the War. Elsewhere, there was fighting in territories that had formed part of the Ottoman Empire, and while WW1 was going on there was religiously-motivated genocide. The Ottomans killed hundreds of thousands of people who were members of the Assyrian Community, whose religious affiliation was mainly Christian.

Hitler was an extreme christian and made many references to his Christianity during his speeches during WWII.

http://www.nobeliefs.com/speeches.htm
Slavery was universal in the ancient world.
Slavery is still going strong throughout the world.
stop polical correctness

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#594388 Jan 27, 2013
Victor Belmont wrote:
<quoted text>
My friend has too..he explained to me but still he cannot explain this -
When a person is at his death he feels the presence of God whyyyy???
I died in my sleep – not a friend or “I know somebody who told me…”: Me – I died in my sleep and didn’t show up for work and my co-workers could not get hold of me so they called local police who came to my house. I live in a very secure neighborhood and leave my front door closed, but unlocked most of the time so the police officer came to my bedroom, he started CPR, called fire rescue and I woke up in ICU on a ventilator. I went to bed at 9PM or so and next thing I know I am in ICU with a tube down my lungs. No magical tunnels, no light shining, no floating above myself, just NOTHING. By nothing I mean the absence of everything. No dreams, no visions, no presence of anything felt, NOTHING, NADA. Well except extreme confusion when I woke up the next day and was looking at the ceiling of a hospital room and my two co-workers standing next to the bed and a ventilator on the other side with a couple medical professionals messing around me. I am a RN, so a figured where I was, but not what happened. Again there was nothing. No fear, no happiness, nothing.
stop polical correctness

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#594389 Jan 27, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Wishful thinking combined with hallucinations caused by lack of oxygen to the brain. A very well understood phenomenon. What you should be asking is why none of them report the exact same thing and why there are more versions of this "feeling" than there are religions?
Agree 100%

Since: Dec 12

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#594390 Jan 27, 2013
Victor Belmont wrote:
....Ask a silly question, get a silly answer...
It has been noted that you ask silly questions, and that you are a weasel and couldn't answer her question or mine. Thank you.

Since: Dec 12

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#594391 Jan 27, 2013
Victor Belmont wrote:
and what about my reply with the story about that sick little girls? is she a waste of time too?
I know nothing about that part of the conversation, but would be happy to reply to it if you wish to restate it.

Since: Dec 12

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#594392 Jan 27, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
EXCELLENT POST, SOME REAL GEMS...BRAVO
Thank you. Very kind of you.

Since: Jan 13

Kuwait, Kuwait

#594393 Jan 27, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Doubtful that you studied biology extensively, since you still did not comprehend. Solid objects cannot move, that is why life forms are mostly soft tissue. The exoskeleton adds a certain advantage, such as in weight lifting, but requires more energy to move. Thus the thicker the exoskeleton, the more soft tissue and more oxygen that the organism requires when on land. It's still mostly soft tissue. Why don't you look it up in your books, or are all your biology books based on religious nonsense as well?
I don't need to look it up I already saw many wonder and documentaries. I understand it is hard for you to accept uninterpreted phenomenons. however you said it your self...An EXOSKELETON yes. of course they have a lot of fluid and tissue u don't have to sound smart about it. Any dumb ass would know. So don't u get it now?? exoskeleton break not squashed unlike a cockroach's exoskeleton. Its as if you are wearing full armor that's simply how ants are. Which back then many question why the Qur'an says break.

Since: Dec 12

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#594394 Jan 27, 2013
Victor Belmont wrote:
When a person is at his death he feels the presence of God whyyyy???
You should have been here last week when this was covered. First, not everyone feels the same thing. Second, It is basically a chemical reaction in our brains and can easily be recreated under laboratory conditions.

Since: Jan 13

Kuwait, Kuwait

#594395 Jan 27, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Wishful thinking combined with hallucinations caused by lack of oxygen to the brain. A very well understood phenomenon. What you should be asking is why none of them report the exact same thing and why there are more versions of this "feeling" than there are religions?
hmm thus becoming religious after living (MOST OF THEM) explain that too hmmm?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#594396 Jan 27, 2013
Victor Belmont wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't need to look it up I already saw many wonder and documentaries. I understand it is hard for you to accept uninterpreted phenomenons. however you said it your self...An EXOSKELETON yes. of course they have a lot of fluid and tissue u don't have to sound smart about it. Any dumb ass would know. So don't u get it now?? exoskeleton break not squashed unlike a cockroach's exoskeleton. Its as if you are wearing full armor that's simply how ants are. Which back then many question why the Qur'an says break.
In other words, you prefer to remain ignorant and uneducated so you can ignore your god delusion. Got it.

Since: Jan 13

Kuwait, Kuwait

#594397 Jan 27, 2013
Clementia wrote:
<quoted text>
You are from the same bloody tree! How can u not get that?
Some of your rituals are the same and some are different, but that doesn't mean you're not from the same family!
"we respect all religions and respect other non-believers as humans"
Your history says a lot different, lol, read it!
I stated something important do not see Sunni muslim path I AM SHIITE and this is how we are yes we are somewhat different form others. But, it is the path that I follow and love.

Also I read my history well, since i became 20 I started questioning my faith and now I have found the best man who can reply to anything u can think of about my faith here is the link - http://www.sayedammar.com/sayedammarnakshc.ht...
do not worry his lectures are all in English.

Since: Oct 12

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#594398 Jan 27, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>
and yet you blame all atheists for the actions of other atheists like Stalin and Mao...who's artocies had more to do with politics and staying in power than to advance the cause of atheism
do you know the meaning of the word HYPOCRITE??/
For a definition, look in the mirror
But don't u understand that if religious leaders lose their religion they lose their power? At the end of the day all wars are about power! Getting power by any means possible!

If Christianity is finished the Pope will become a toilet cleaner. The same with all the other religions. They are living in heaven thanks to religion why shouldn't they fight to keep it alive? They r greedy so of course they will.

Since: Jan 13

Kuwait, Kuwait

#594399 Jan 27, 2013
Mylan wrote:
<quoted text>You should have been here last week when this was covered. First, not everyone feels the same thing. Second, It is basically a chemical reaction in our brains and can easily be recreated under laboratory conditions.
Well any reason why it happens only during death? Personally I think upon death the person realizes so suddenly that he is dying and that somehow he will go to hell if he was a bad person. Starts remembering God. This is so because we believe that any human who is born, God instills in him the instinct on believing that God exists.
alan

Kansas City, MO

#594400 Jan 27, 2013
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> Assertion. <quoted text> If atheism is right then rights are from men and they can be taken away by men. <quoted text> Atheism has no objective concept of sovereignty which applies to all peoples at all times. <quoted text> God as depicted is Creator. A collective of people is insufficient cause for universal human rights since these things would be determine by those in power. Our rights are from God and apply to all people everywhere. They include both rights and duties to our fellow men to help the weak, feed and clothe the poor. To be our brothers keeper. All this is inherent in human nature. It is who we are. Grand ideas have no molecules and are bullet proof. They do not die. They do have effects.
So, Hitler followed this, how?

Since: Jan 13

Kuwait, Kuwait

#594401 Jan 27, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
In other words, you prefer to remain ignorant and uneducated so you can ignore your god delusion. Got it.
lol? I told u I already saw the newest researches and u tell me I wanna remain uneducated? hah

Since: Dec 12

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#594402 Jan 27, 2013
Clementia wrote:
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We believe the exact same thing,
This is very nice to know.
there is a power greater than us, we only need to look at birth and death to understand they are not in our power.
This is a very good point. If we as humans cannot understand the forces of birth and death, then how could we possibly understand the "power greater than us" who created them? Religion makes no sense. It is just a crutch for some very weak gullible people. It does not serve mankind.
We never going to get peace until atheists and religious people, drop the know it all act!
Religion is an addiction for many. Addictions are hard to fight, especially when religion makes them codependent.

All I can say is be the change you wish to see in the world.

Since: Jun 12

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#594403 Jan 27, 2013
alan wrote:
<quoted text>So, Hitler followed this, how?
Don't know what you mean alan.

Since: Oct 12

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#594404 Jan 27, 2013
Victor Belmont wrote:
<quoted text>
I stated something important do not see Sunni muslim path I AM SHIITE and this is how we are yes we are somewhat different form others. But, it is the path that I follow and love.
Also I read my history well, since i became 20 I started questioning my faith and now I have found the best man who can reply to anything u can think of about my faith here is the link - http://www.sayedammar.com/sayedammarnakshc.ht...
do not worry his lectures are all in English.
My Muslim friends are sunni and oh dear, they hate your asses!

I know about Muslims but i'll have a look at those videos some other time. I can understand urdu, but not arabi, for your kind information.

So, do u beat yourself?

Since: Oct 12

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#594405 Jan 27, 2013
Mylan wrote:
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This is very nice to know.
<quoted text>
This is a very good point. If we as humans cannot understand the forces of birth and death, then how could we possibly understand the "power greater than us" who created them? Religion makes no sense. It is just a crutch for some very weak gullible people. It does not serve mankind.
<quoted text>Religion is an addiction for many. Addictions are hard to fight, especially when religion makes them codependent.
All I can say is be the change you wish to see in the world.
U didn't tell me if u wanted any potato salad?

We got arbi in the house too, if u'd like to try some?

Should i give u good news, it started raining here, i'm so happy, i said bye-bye to the snow today!!

Since: Jun 12

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#594406 Jan 27, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
Never said slavery was derived from the bible, but that the bible was used to support slavery in modern times
Critics find common ground with pro slavery southern racists when they use the Bible for the same reasons and ignore the fact the Bible was also used to argue against slavery since peole had no universal right to own other people who are in the image of God. So there is not a dimes worth of difference in your thinking and the thinking of racists who misused Scripture to justisfy an abomination. Again and again your definitions has to do with atrocities as the norm and ignore the teachings of its Founder which is incorrect and bigoted. Your real problem is with Scripture and not slavery and you use slavery to discredit Scripture which is your real agenda.

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