“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#592572 Jan 23, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Honestly? Because it's the only one that makes sense to me.
I'm sure it's the most familiar one to you. For the vast majority of religious people, that is how they choose their religion. Had you been born in Classical Greece you'd probably worship Zeus. Had you been born in pre-Columbia Mexico around 600 AD you'd probably be sacrificing to Quetzalcoatl. Had you been born in modern Tehran you'd likely be Muslim. But just because a religion is pervasive in the time and place you live doesn't mean it's true.

Religions are simply reflections of the values and culture of the societies that invent them. Christianity is no different. It was essentially a reboot of Judaism. Likewise Islam was a later cultural revision. And even Christianity has changed rather drastically since the councils of Nicea decided what documents to include in the canon of the Bible. As we've discussed before, slavery is no linger considered moral, even though the Bible says it's fine, because when it's various parts were written, slavery was considered normal. Likewise racism is rejected now. And we are seeing society recognize that homophobia is also immoral, and Christianity will have to adapt to that change too. But to go back to the original point, all religions are cultural projections, but that doesn't make any of them true.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#592573 Jan 23, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>BTW, you lower YOURSELF to homophobia because you ARE a homophobe.
I didn't make you that way- YOU did.
Try accepting personal responsibility for your own words and your own views.
Oh, I take full responsibility for my words & views.

Your liberal mind can't grasp the thought of someone viewing things differently than you, that's all.
Pat

Granby, CT

#592574 Jan 23, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Because a sexual preference or orientation is not a race, religion, or ethnic background....
So what. It is a distinction just as relevant as race, religion or ethnic background. The fact they are singled out and discriminated against justifies looking at them as a minority group. It is far more relevant than the particular flavor of dishonest voodoo you choose to cling to for that most certainly is a choice, unlike ones sexual orientation.
Pat

Granby, CT

#592575 Jan 23, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>RR used only a snippet of the definition of the word "minority"- he would rather show us how little integrity he has by not having posted the FULL definition rather than admit he is WRONG.
His fragile ego doesn't allow for him to admit when he was wrong but his lack of ethics and integrity does allow for him to be duplicitous as he was by posting only ONE definition of the word in a pathetic attempt to try and prove himself right.
Such is the lot in life of a very little man such as RR truly is.
The bible bigots have lots their war on gays and RR knows it. That makes me smile.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#592576 Jan 23, 2013
Pat wrote:
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Again the morally challenged theist offers up a lie and uses a bogus definition of ethnicity.
ethnic group - belonging to or deriving from the cultural, racial, religious, or linguistic traditions of a people or country.
One does not lose their ethnicity because they move from one location to another.
RR simply cannot grasp this.

He is too frantically waving his flag to understand what you are rightly telling him.

He thinks it makes him a "real" American to proclaim that he is nothing other than 100% American despite that not being true- at least not in terms of his ethnicity, but then again, RR seems to think that NATIONALITY and HERITAGE/ETHNICITY are one and the same.

He will never be able to comprehend that they are not.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#592577 Jan 23, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>You are WRONG- I provided you with the FULL definition of the word "minority" instead of just the snippet YOU provided to try and prove yourself right but which only proved how very wrong you are.
You are also not allowing for the broader definition of the word "glorify" when it comes to sexuality.
I'll bet you don't think in movies or TV WAR is "glorified" either, huh?
You're an idiot.
Oh, so you do need to dumb it down simply to mean "less than". Got it

So tell me, you have 4 pennies & 1 quarter. Which is the minority?

I have you a clear definition of glorify. That Seinfeld episode with the masturbation contest does not glorify heterosexual masturbation. You're really reaching....

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#592578 Jan 23, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, I take full responsibility for my words & views.
Your liberal mind can't grasp the thought of someone viewing things differently than you, that's all.
Of course I can grasp that- just as I can grasp that your views go against the most basic of tenets of Christianity.

“Spelin 'n' tpyin...”

Since: Feb 08

...are my strong suits!

#592579 Jan 23, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Eh?
Please find the post where I said cigarettes don't contain a drug....
I'll wait.
OCB won't though, you have to respond immediately.
I did say that I was going on memory.

In any case, here...
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TOCO8TE...

Don't EVER call me out like that RR (I don't have to dig to find what I'm looking for).

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#592581 Jan 23, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, I take full responsibility for my words & views.
Your liberal mind can't grasp the thought of someone viewing things differently than you, that's all.
This was a really stupid post of yours, RR.

I fully grasp that you are a homophobe and that you view homosexuals differently than I do and that you have contempt, disdain and rancor toward homosexuals whereas I do not.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#592582 Jan 23, 2013
Pat wrote:
<quoted text>
Again the morally challenged theist shows his true colors and offers up a lie. Where have I ever said certain people should be treated differently under the law?
Where did I say that you think certain people should be treated differently under the law?

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#592583 Jan 23, 2013
Pat wrote:
<quoted text>
Skin color is as relevant as the color of your socks you fool. The wedge that divides the races is due to behavioral differences not skin color. Are you really as dumb as you make yourself look? I think you are.
As to bias, when is it ok to hold a bias? If the crime and violence rate is ten times higher in black areas am I not justified in being biased and wanting to avoid these areas? By all means buy your next home in a black majority area fool, you'll save a lot of money!
Your irrational bias towards gays is what is disgusting you morally challenged bible bozo.
Please. You correlate blacks with higher crime rates, but you can't show any causation. Crime is a result of poverty, education, and opportunity, not race. And in this country, that often (but certainly not always) means black neighborhoods have more crime and problems, but that is not because the people in those neighborhoods have a higher level of melanin in their skin.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#592584 Jan 23, 2013
Pat wrote:
<quoted text>
The bible bigots have lots their war on gays and RR knows it. That makes me smile.
Me too!:-)

I find it HILARIOUS that RR stated that gays have more rights than the rest of us.

He's gotta be going for some kind of martyr award.......poor lil' picked on, put-upon RR.......

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#592585 Jan 23, 2013
Pat wrote:
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Nobody defends their ignorance as staunchly as RR.
It's sad. I fully understand that we are all born ignorant, but we take the time to learn and rightfully so. This is why a person with a masters degree is more respected that a ignorant fool. But RR seems to be proud of being ignorant and refuses to educate himself any further. To me that's just a waste of a life. RR makes claims about his god but common sense dictates that his god would want for him to be as educated as possible, and to understand all of his creations as much as possible. RR seems to think that a glass ceiling is good enough, and that is just sad and wasteful.

On the bright side he's keeping the 'redneck' stereotype alive and well. LOL...
Pat

Granby, CT

#592586 Jan 23, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Honestly? Because it's the only one that makes sense to me.
If god coming to earth as the son of himself, to get himself crucified as a means of protecting us from himself makes sense to you then you have some serious mental defects.
"Gee, I screwed up and created morally challenged humans who I then gave free will to. I better get my azz down there and crucify myself so I won't have to punish the inferior objects of my own creation!" God

Makes perfect sense to RR! LMFAO

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#592587 Jan 23, 2013
Hukt on Fonix wrote:
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I'm going on memory here...
Someone brought up marijuana. One post lead to another and RR wound up protesting the use of marijuana and stated that he has *never* used any drugs (other than antibiotics).
A few posters, including myself, pointed out that he does indeed use drugs... namely, alcohol and nicotine.
His responses...
First, they weren't drugs.
Then, they weren't mind-altering drugs.
A bit later, they weren't illegal mind-altering drugs.
In the end, once again, they weren't drugs at all.
Good memory, Hukt. You're spot on.

I don't consider cigarettes or alcohol "drugs" because "drugs" implies either illegal narcotics or prescription medications.

I also don't consider Tylenol a "drug", even though it can be classified as one.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#592588 Jan 23, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Eh?
Please find the post where I said cigarettes don't contain a drug....
I'll wait.
OCB won't though, you have to respond immediately.
Okey-dokey- your post #588165 which Hukt found in no time flat....

YOU said:

"No, alcohol isn't a drug.

No, cigarettes aren't drugs.

Yes, addiction is a big part of cigarettes."

You really ARE dumb. If cigarettes weren't a drug- and that is a MAJOR part of what they are made of, just WHAT would one get ADDICTED to?

And ALCOHOL isn't a drug????

Oh man- then give ME some of the drugs that YOU'RE using if you think that alcohol isn't a drug since the fact of the matter is that it definitely is and with no ifs, ands or buts about it.

You FOOL.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#592589 Jan 23, 2013
Hukt on Fonix wrote:
<quoted text>
I did say that I was going on memory.
In any case, here...
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TOCO8TE...
Don't EVER call me out like that RR (I don't have to dig to find what I'm looking for).
WONDERFULLY done, Hukt!

Kudos!

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#592590 Jan 23, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, so you do need to dumb it down simply to mean "less than". Got it
So tell me, you have 4 pennies & 1 quarter. Which is the minority?
I have you a clear definition of glorify. That Seinfeld episode with the masturbation contest does not glorify heterosexual masturbation. You're really reaching....
The quarter is the minority since I have a greater amount of pennies.

That the quarter is worth more than the 4 pennies doesn't change the fact that in QUANTITY, there are more pennies than there are quarters.

No- I am NOT reaching- in the world of media which of course includes TV, sex is glorified because SEX SELLS.

Again- I will ask you- you don't think WAR is glorified either in media, huh?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#592591 Jan 23, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>No......the baby would be an Italian AMERICAN assuming the family was staying in the USA for good and assuming they all applied for citizenship.
Unlike YOU, the MAJORITY of people in this world DO appreciate the value of their heritage and their roots and find such knowledge to be enriching and enlightening.
I know you want to call the baby Italian-American. But why?

Why aren't the parents, say, Greek-Italian?(Assuming their family came from Greece)

That being the hypothetical case, why wouldn't you call the baby Greek-Italian-American?

Oh wait, the Greek family migrated from Egypt....

Ugh, you people.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#592592 Jan 23, 2013
Mylan wrote:
<quoted text>LOL.. the funny part is that you are seriously asking the question. I'm guessing you don't even have a basic GED. Not trying to make fun of you, just going by your comments, and I can imagine what your next one will be.
There you go again.

Ya-huh!

Sheesh, at least OCB put up an ignorant rebuttal...

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