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“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#592440 Jan 23, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>STFU, you "charitable" Christian.
Your brother is no more representative of the masses at large than YOU are, RR.
BTW, here in Florida, unemployment is not at ALL guaranteed if the person cannot provide proof that they are seeking employment, and here in Florida, the Unemployment Offices actually check up on the places that those receiving benefits list as places they have looked for work.
I would imagine that Florida is not the only state now taking a more proactive stance in checking up on/confirming what receivers of benefits tell them.
And sorry, bub- but here in Florida, the maximum benefit one can receive is $275/week which the majority of people here can NOT live on and I've known several people here who lost their jobs and couldn't find a new one fast enough in order to be able to actually make ends meet- here in Florida,$275/week doesn't cut it.
You use ONE example- your brother- as the "type of people" who are on unemployment?
Wow- you need to get out more, RR.
And since you say you have carte blanche with your boss to play on the computer all day long, you might want to use some of that time to at least attempt to back up the sh*t you talk- not that you can, but you can at least try.
I used my brother as ONE example. Unemployment assistance is designed to give a temporary safety net to someone who has been laid off. It NEVER has been intended to be a perpetual check for the unemployed at the taxpayers’ expense, certainly not for 99 friggin motnhs, but it’s an important aid for someone who’s between jobs.

People who abuse the unemployment benefit system hurt those who genuinly need it – and us the taxpayers.
Pat

Granby, CT

#592443 Jan 23, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>Wow- you're really desperate to bend someone's ear over this stuff, aren't you?
Your obvious desire to encourage and foster even more estrangement, anger and bitterness among people of different races is something I would find troubling if I were you. You seem to think your views are what is best for humanity. I disagree.
Try this on for size, Pat. The HUMAN race. Period.
Oh- try to quit frothing so much.....you make a lot of typos when you're in the middle of one of your fits.
So when you capitalize your unsupported dogma it makes the argument valid?

Why can't you just be honest and admit that your views are contrary to all the evidence that so clearly supports the fact that the races do indeed differ behaviorally. You offer no evidence what so ever for your postion.

Since: Jan 13

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#592444 Jan 23, 2013
e I gave you yesterday, take it up with THEM, you stupid .
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OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#592446 Jan 23, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
What TV show glorifies heterosexuality? Tell me.
I know a minority doesn't need to be a race, I didn't say that it did.
If any form of discrimination does in fact cause people to be "held down" by society, then we're all "held down" in some way or another.
Besides, how is a sexual preference going to hold someone down in society? I've never been asked if I fuck men or women on a job interview, apartment application, credit app, car loan.....
1. Two And A Half Men

2. Anger Management

3. Even some Seinfeld episodes

4. Assorted other shows

5. MANY movies- both on TV and in theaters

Yes- you DID say that- you said: "homosexuals are not a minority, they're not a race"

Funny that you posted that AFTER stating that homosexuals represent about 1% of the population.....you don't have ANY clue as to what you yourself say, do you?

If someone is suspected of being gay or is known to be gay simply because they disclosed that information and not at all based on their behavior, they can be discriminated against and often are.

And really- attitudes such as yours are MORE than enough for people to be "held down by society".

I will agree that to one degree or another, the majority of people are "held down" in one way or another; that doesn't make it right nor does it justify people being held down due to nothing other than blatant and unwarranted- not to mention ILLEGAL- discrimination.

“Is that all you've got?”

Since: Jun 10

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#592448 Jan 23, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
I used my brother as ONE example. Unemployment assistance is designed to give a temporary safety net to someone who has been laid off. It NEVER has been intended to be a perpetual check for the unemployed at the taxpayers’ expense, certainly not for 99 friggin motnhs, but it’s an important aid for someone who’s between jobs.
People who abuse the unemployment benefit system hurt those who genuinly need it – and us the taxpayers.
What's with the "99 month" comment?

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#592449 Jan 23, 2013
Pat wrote:
<quoted text>
So when you capitalize your unsupported dogma it makes the argument valid?
Why can't you just be honest and admit that your views are contrary to all the evidence that so clearly supports the fact that the races do indeed differ behaviorally. You offer no evidence what so ever for your postion.
It bothers you that I like to emphasize? Sorry...... If you would stop letting your emotions get the better of you, it wouldn't bother you.

I won't admit what is not true- and I don't see anyone else here jumping on your racist bandwagon, Pat.

BTW, I never said that races don't differ behaviorally, but I don't agree it is because of what YOU think the reason is.

Anyway, I prefer to view people as individuals as much as I possibly can and in doing so, I find that no two PEOPLE behave the same- let alone an entire group or race of people.
Pat

Granby, CT

#592450 Jan 23, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Holding hands is not shoving it in our faces.
Gay pride parades with people dressed nearly naked and acting sexual, with sexual themed floats, and no worries of the cops stopping them from breaking the law.
"Coming out day" and clubs for KIDS at schools.
Acting excessive in public.
Displaying placards, stickers, shirts and jewelry stating you are gay,etc. Like anyone but them really cares. Yesterday I saw a bastardized rainbow American flag sticker on some little car with a total flamer at the wheel.
People publicly declaring it on national TV, youtube, etc like anyone but them really gives a shit.
Gays would probably get more recognition & a good status if they acted with a little more restraint like the rest of us do. And no, I'm not talking about the absurdities that happen at things like Mardi gras, I'm talking about everyday life.
There's no "Hetero sex, FTW!" stickers...
There's no "We're here and we're straight!" stickers...
Heteros exhibit the very same behaviors it's just that you don't find them as offensive because you are prejudiced towards gays.
Some of the things you mention are being done for the very reason that gays are being discriminated against. There will be no need to bring the subject up once the bible bigots like yourself are put in your place and gays have equal rights.

Since: May 11

Wickford, UK

#592451 Jan 23, 2013
United in faith wrote:
<quoted text>
found out why you think the way you do.
Apparently in the UK they are persecuting Christians and have an
"Amorality" discriminate against religious believers.
Just read a news article about 3 current cases there
where a lady (Shirley Chaplin) was fired from her job for wearing a cross around her neck.
(Gary mcFarlane) was fried for refusing to counsel same sex couples.
(Lillian Ladele) was fired for refusing to officiate same sex couples in marriage ceremonies.
i guess in the UK people are not allowed to 'live their faith' openly or freely.
that explains alot about why you express the view that you do on here.
"44. In our view, some exemption from the Regulations is necessary in order to protect the right to freedom of conscience, religion and belief in Article 9 ECHR. Regulation 16 of the Northern Ireland Regulations ensures that nobody will be required to perform
same-sex marriages, or to admit homosexual people to their religious organisations, or allow them to join in their activities or use their premises if this would be contrary to their religious belief. In our view, the scope of the exemption in Regulation 16 gives adequate protection to the absolute right in Article 9(1) to freedom of conscience and religion. Nobody is required by the Regulations not to have beliefs about the morality of different sexual orientations, or its compatibility with the tenets of one’s religion, or punished or subjected to any other disadvantage for having such beliefs. In our view, the prohibitions on discrimination in the Regulations limit the manifestation of those
religious beliefs and that limitation is justifiable in a democratic society for the protection of the right of gay people not to be discriminated against in the provision of
goods, facilities and services."

full decision of the Court in Eweida et al v UK can be found here, http://hudoc.echr.coe.int/sites/eng/pages/sea...

We have an established church you silly old tart, the bishops sit in the equivalent of your Senate, the Queen is the head of the church, how much more christianity would you like?

You are just sooooo STUPID!

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#592452 Jan 23, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
I used my brother as ONE example. Unemployment assistance is designed to give a temporary safety net to someone who has been laid off. It NEVER has been intended to be a perpetual check for the unemployed at the taxpayers’ expense, certainly not for 99 friggin motnhs, but it’s an important aid for someone who’s between jobs.
People who abuse the unemployment benefit system hurt those who genuinly need it – and us the taxpayers.
There are true stories galore out there of people who truly want to work and who are actively and diligently seeking work and who have gone YEARS without finding a job.

Things are improving and the job market is coming alive a bit more once again, but for many years jobs were very tight and the competition was- and still is- very stiff. There is no set time limit for someone to be "between jobs". It can be for a few months or it can be for a few years and through no fault of the person seeking work.

BTW, the tax payers who pay for unemployment benefits are EMPLOYERS and not individual tax payers such as you and me.

And sorry bub- but employers having to pay that tax? It's a cost of doing business and of being in business.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#592453 Jan 23, 2013
Pat wrote:
<quoted text>
Heteros exhibit the very same behaviors it's just that you don't find them as offensive because you are prejudiced towards gays.
Some of the things you mention are being done for the very reason that gays are being discriminated against. There will be no need to bring the subject up once the bible bigots like yourself are put in your place and gays have equal rights.
I'm sure you won't care or show any warmth or kindness due to me telling you this is a great post and that I agree with you 100%, but I'm telling you anyway.

:-)

“Spelin 'n' tpyin...”

Since: Feb 08

...are my strong suits!

#592454 Jan 23, 2013
jeffrextious wrote:
of course there is a god, but the real question would be "what is god?"
if god is Love, that universal feeling that connects us all, then prove of god would merely be proof of love.
to know god, is to know love.
to feel love, is to know god and know god exists.
if you can feel love in your heart, you know god and you know god is real.
What in the world gave you the impression that this thread has anything whatsoever to do with "God"?

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#592455 Jan 23, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
If I became an American citizen, I'd no longer be Chinese.
Wow, that's amazingly retarded.
Pat

Granby, CT

#592456 Jan 23, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>Yes- your joke was a bit amusing and I told you so at that time.
Nope- I have no problem with any emotions nor do I try to make people feel ashamed of having or displaying emotions- but you do.
There is a time and place for emotions? Yes, such as in the workplace or other professional environments and venues- Topix is not one of those venues.
Again- I never accused you of hating anyone, and that you repeatedly accuse me of what I never said shows you to be an emotional wreck as well as a liar.
YOU keep using the word "hate", so perhaps you should examine why you do so when I never used the word or accused you of hating anyone.
YOU are the one who is throwing out bogus accusations, Pat- get a grip.
"your joke was a bit amusing and I told you so at that time."

So then you admit your claim of my complete lack of humor was not true.

"I have no problem with any emotions nor do I try to make people feel ashamed of having or displaying emotions- but you do."

I take issue with you using emotions like you do to go off point and derail the converstation.

"Again- I never accused you of hating anyone"

Stop lying. You make all kinds of bogus accusations about my motives and so forth. You also claim your rcial denial dogma is "what is best for humanity" implying my positon is bad for humantiy. Honesty is never bad as far as I am concerned. I wonder if you will see yourself in the below quote.

"The Left holds that blacks would do as well as whites but for racism, the Right that blacks would do as well as whites but for well-meaning government policies like welfare that sap black ambition.(The seductions of popular culture are sometimes added.) The Left's theory may be wrong, but it observes the forms of correct reasoning. It tries to deal with conflicting evidence, positing unconscious 'structural' discrimination to explain black failure in the United States after the passage of civil rights measures, and internalization of the white man's image of blacks to explain the decline of postcolonial Africa. On the other hand, while conservatives have made a strong case that welfare has accelerated black crime, poverty, and illegitimacy, they ignore the failure of whites to respond as blacks do to welfare incentives available to both races, and explain black failure in the post-civil rights era as a legacy of slavery in language borrowed from the Left. Conservatives such as Thomas Sowell, aware of the worldwide failure of black cultures to develop European/Asian levels of technology, circularly attribute this failure to black culture. The truism that a bad theory beats no theory may explain why the Right's account of race relations is seldom taken seriously. A preoccupation with blame leads both the Left and the Right to mix questions of cause with questions of fault. The causal question is, simply,'Why do the races differ?' The complex fault question is,'What malice or folly created these differences?' For the Left it is malicious racism, for the Right it is foolish welfare, with both sides ignoring the possibility that human action has nothing to do with it. The upshot is scolding and lecturing, as the Left scolds whites for 'racism' of which they may be innocent, the Right lectures everyone about a work ethic blacks may be unable to follow, and the Left scolds the Right right back for 'blaming the victim.' Finally, both Left and Right see the failure of blacks to live like whites as a problem. Certainly, blacks are less prosperous than whites. But this relative shortfall does not imply that blacks are deprived in any absolute sense; a black with a TV set and flush toilet has treasures undreamed of by the Pharaohs."

Michael Levin, philosophy professor at City University of New York.

Since: Dec 12

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#592457 Jan 23, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
To me it’s not that emotions are either positive or negative, it’s the fact that some emotions are more comfortable to tolerate than others.
Well that's easy to fix, you just have to learn the definition of negative and positive, Many first graders already know this.
Pat

Granby, CT

#592458 Jan 23, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>I'm sure you won't care or show any warmth or kindness due to me telling you this is a great post and that I agree with you 100%, but I'm telling you anyway.
:-)
Thank you. We agree because you have the courage and honesty to understand that a persons sexual orientation is not a valid reason to be biased towards someone or to want to deny them equal rights under the law.

It behooves every man who values liberty of conscience for himself, to resist invasions of it in the case of others; or their case may, by change of circumstances, become his own.
-- Thomas Jefferson, letter to Benjamin Rush, April 21, 1803

Since: Dec 12

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#592459 Jan 23, 2013
Pat wrote:
You no understand difference between ethnicity and nationality grasshopper?
It's amazing how a grown adult like him doesn't understand simple, basic things like this. Half of the problems in this country can be traced back to lack of education.
Pat

Granby, CT

#592460 Jan 23, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>It bothers you that I like to emphasize? Sorry...... If you would stop letting your emotions get the better of you, it wouldn't bother you.
I won't admit what is not true- and I don't see anyone else here jumping on your racist bandwagon, Pat.
BTW, I never said that races don't differ behaviorally, but I don't agree it is because of what YOU think the reason is.
Anyway, I prefer to view people as individuals as much as I possibly can and in doing so, I find that no two PEOPLE behave the same- let alone an entire group or race of people.
I agree with MLK 100 percent, we should all be judged on our individual merits and no on our race, sexual orientation or any other irrelevant quality. With that said, so long as liberals continue to obsess over race, pointing out every racial disparity they can possibly uncover and then attributing these disparities to racism by whites there will be just cause for the white population to defend itself aganst these unfounded accusations. The burden of proof lies with the accuser and there is no evidence of racial equality or that whites are the cause of black failure.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#592461 Jan 23, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>1. Two And A Half Men
2. Anger Management
3. Even some Seinfeld episodes
4. Assorted other shows
5. MANY movies- both on TV and in theaters
Yes- you DID say that- you said: "homosexuals are not a minority, they're not a race"
Funny that you posted that AFTER stating that homosexuals represent about 1% of the population.....you don't have ANY clue as to what you yourself say, do you?
If someone is suspected of being gay or is known to be gay simply because they disclosed that information and not at all based on their behavior, they can be discriminated against and often are.
And really- attitudes such as yours are MORE than enough for people to be "held down by society".
I will agree that to one degree or another, the majority of people are "held down" in one way or another; that doesn't make it right nor does it justify people being held down due to nothing other than blatant and unwarranted- not to mention ILLEGAL- discrimination.
None of those show glorifies any sexuality, they are comedies, nothing more. Compared to shows like Will & Grace or RuPauls Drag Fags, THOSE glorify homosexuality.

Yes, I know what I said, you took it wrong. How about homosexuals are not a minority nor are they a race. Better?

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#592462 Jan 23, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Some people are so easily offended, even the word "redneck" gets flagged.
Well I can understand why that's considered offensive.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#592463 Jan 23, 2013
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>What's with the "99 month" comment?
OPPS, sorry. 99 weeks....

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