Since: Jul 09

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#587715 Jan 14, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Ok, you seem to be having a hard time so I'll make it very simple for you.
The government should not be able to enforce a non-smoking workplace. It should be the decision of the business owner, not the government. Some business owners would like a smoking workplace, some wouldn't. But when the gub'ment gets involved, nobody has a right & nobody gets a say-so & nobody gets a choice.
no place that is open to the public has "a choice" to infringe upon the health of those who enter.

Since: Jul 09

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#587716 Jan 14, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Nah, I'm not into gameplay like you.
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Don't you mean my smoking "might" affect others?
I think that's exactly why people like you are anti-smoking. You hate the smell so you try to do whatever you can to make sure that happens.
And that's why you don't care about fat people costing more money than smokers, because they don't smell like cigarettes do...
your cigarettes polute the air that others must breath.

Look, when you smoke, do not exhale, and I will support your right to smoke

Since: Jul 09

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#587717 Jan 14, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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And your reasoning is that no matter what happens, if your property is stolen and somebody uses it to commit a crime you are responsible for the crime.
That's pretty damn retarded.
if that property were properly secured, how did it get stolen?

you will only be held responsible when you are irresponsible.

you should fear, for you are an irresponsible coward.
Pat

Granby, CT

#587718 Jan 14, 2013
karl44 wrote:
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if that property were properly secured, how did it get stolen?
you will only be held responsible when you are irresponsible.
you should fear, for you are an irresponsible coward.
We all don't live in a fortress with no windows and steel doors. Things get stolen all the time and it is of no fault of the owner. This is why we need guns, to step on the sociopaths who like to steal.

Since: Jul 09

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#587719 Jan 14, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
You won't. But you'll have to hear the fat f_cks stuffing their mouths with fat while I have to pay a extra $50 a month because I smoke.
Real fair, huh?
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>
What, you think that's too low? Too high?
I think they should charge as much as the market will allow.
in Canada where every one must show ID to purchase.

About fifty cents each cigarette, if purchased by the carton

200 in a carton, about $100.00 (can)

some think, that these things should be sold and wrapped individually

Since: Jul 09

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#587720 Jan 14, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I think it's unfair, that's all.
That a smoker pays more for medical insurance while a fat f_ck with diabetes doesn't.
what is fair, is that you pay the full costs of your poor choice

If your cost of cigarettes were to double, that would be still insufficient.

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#587721 Jan 14, 2013
karl44 wrote:
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no place that is open to the public has "a choice" to infringe upon the health of those who enter.
The public has a choice as to whether or not to enter an establishment that allows legal behaviors that they do not agree with. Nobody forces people to enter their place of business.

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#587722 Jan 14, 2013
Pat wrote:
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We all don't live in a fortress with no windows and steel doors. Things get stolen all the time and it is of no fault of the owner. This is why we need guns, to step on the sociopaths who like to steal.
Because when seconds count the police are only minutes away.

Since: Jul 09

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#587723 Jan 14, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Yes, actually.
My employer, like many others, Likes to pretend they want their employees to be healthy. They use "get healthy" tactics to try to get people to "live a healthier life". They charge cigarette smokers an extra $50 a month but our five vending machines in the break room are filled with crap like candy bars, chips, disgusting vending machine cheeseburgers and burritos, energy drinks, soda, etc.
I don't understand why people just can't be honest and say They don't like the smell of cigarette smoke.
You have to use tactics like you want to live healthier and you want me to live healthy too so you help the government enact all kinds of new laws to try to prevent people from smoking.
That's not following my right to my own pursuit of happiness.
You should stick to your own life and stay out of mine.
you do not care about anyone other than yourself

why would you expect different behviour from others?

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#587724 Jan 14, 2013
karl44 wrote:
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your cigarettes polute the air that others must breath.
Look, when you smoke, do not exhale, and I will support your right to smoke
When you realize that campfires, grills, fireplaces, combustible engines, etc. pollute the air far more than a cigarette then I will support your right to not be a hypocrite.
Pat

Granby, CT

#587725 Jan 14, 2013
karl44 wrote:
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you are a paraniod
which suggest that you are also religious, they go together soooo well
What are the odds of your house burning to the ground? Is everybody who buys fire insurance paranoid to you? I would be willing to bet you that we have more predatory acts of violence and home invasions in CT then we do houses that burn.

There was just a home invasion in the next town over from me, a very exclusive town. Too bad the home owners weren't "paranoid", we might have one less predator walking the streets.

A few months back there was a home invasion in Sharon, CT, another wealthy rural town. They kicked in the front door and tied up a man and his elderly mother. They robbed the home but first shot the tied up man in the head, killing him. Your see Karl, our "paranoia" is justified by these heinous acts. Sociopaths are not like god, we have proof that they really do exist and in good numbers. Call me paranoid on this subject if you want and I'll call you ignorant. My loaded shotgun, amongst others gives me peace of mind.
Pat

Granby, CT

#587726 Jan 14, 2013
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>Because when seconds count the police are only minutes away.
I know that fact all too well.

Since: Jul 09

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#587727 Jan 14, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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What if somebody steals your car?
Then they use that stolen vehicle to run over a couple people and kill them.
Who's responsibility do you think that is?
did you fail to secure your car?

my lawyer thinks that is the case.

the thief hit my child with your car, the child lived, the suit is for ten million.

have a nice day
Pat

Granby, CT

#587728 Jan 14, 2013
karl44 wrote:
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oh
if it changes operators, it then becomes a liability problem for the owner.
Not where I live it doesn't. We have no law in CT that requires guns be kept in a vault. If it is in your home and is stolen you are not liable.

Since: Jul 09

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#587729 Jan 14, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You saying that pot is healthier than tobacco?
yes
Pat

Granby, CT

#587730 Jan 14, 2013
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>When you realize that campfires, grills, fireplaces, combustible engines, etc. pollute the air far more than a cigarette then I will support your right to not be a hypocrite.
Well, if you wanted to have a campfire at your desk or run your gas powered generator, as your co-worker I would have a problem with that as well...

Since: Jul 09

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#587731 Jan 14, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Ultimately your insurance , provided the thief had none. But to be honest...this is America injured people have lawyers that sue everybody.
The problem is the gun in a drawer in your own house , is protected the same as a knife or dynamite in it. It was never to leave the premises and only entered the public arena because of theft.
To suing someone for being a victim is the same as...
Suing the bank who's robber used the money he stole , to pay a hitman to kill someone. In a wrongful death suit.
It is possible , but you would have to prove the bank was negligent in leaving money to be stolen.
my lawyer disagrees, even if you win, you will be looking at tens of thousands in court costs.

the suit is civil, and for millions gosh I hope you have enough insurance.

Since: Jul 09

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#587732 Jan 14, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Wouldn't that be nuts?!
I can't grasp why these anti-gun freaks want to NOT blame the thief....
the thief is going to jail;

just like you, if you have no insurance

Since: Jul 09

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#587733 Jan 14, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Some people find shit to be sexual.....
smokers one presumes
Pat

Granby, CT

#587734 Jan 14, 2013
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>The public has a choice as to whether or not to enter an establishment that allows legal behaviors that they do not agree with. Nobody forces people to enter their place of business.
What about the other employees, they don't count? So a person with breathing issues doesn't count? He should have to drive an extra 30 miles to find the same kind of business where no smoking is allowed?
The fact that this obnoxious habit of smoking is legal is irrelevant to the subject. It's legal to cover yourself in skunk spray too if you want to. The fact is that it is obnoxious and should no more be allowed then you to be allowed to blast loud music where ever you want to. It's called being a considerate person. If we were all considerate we would not need no smoking laws, but unfortunatley we do.

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