Prove there's a god.

[RiversideRedneck]

Aura Mytha wrote:

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Rate of Gun Homicide per 100,000 People
2010: 3.59
I will not tell you guns do not kill people, I know they do but when you look at the unjustified homicides the rate isn't that high.
In fact suicide by guns is higher and suicide by any means is 4 times higher than gun murders.
If you look at the world at large the US is quite low per capita.
You have to realize we have 10x the people of Canada , and 4x the people of Japan.
But look at the real figures and its blown up and out of proportion
and not nearly as bad as it seems.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countrie...
http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/unit...
I'm not trying to discount what happened with the psycho school shooters , and I don't mind a assault weapon and high capacity
clip ban Hiding , but see it is going to make little to no difference. And you're right we are a gun culture, no they will never take them away. They will also never be able to change
whats happening with bans. They need some method that will address the mentally disturbed before they explode.
The way people have geared up and bought guns lately , it's hopeless. Watch this and this is happening everywhere.
80% receivers are selling as fast as they can be made, clips and folding stocks. The people here are acting like they are gearing up for war.
http://www.10news.com/news/investigations/peo...

Good call.

And people that want to kill themselves will do it with or without a gun.

[Hidingfromyou]

Mylan wrote:

<quoted text>Too bad second hand smoke and cancer don't care about being polite. Ah, what a perfect world this would be.

Second hand smoke in cities full of industrial pollution is like worrying about the mercury levels in your tuna.

[Hidingfromyou]

Aura Mytha wrote:

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We have a lot of bad people , we are a melting pot .
Gangs and Syndicate etc. That's never going to change.
You are safe mostly, it's slightly dangerous here but nothing like South Africa where it's 31.8, Double fine lives in a highly dangerous country. I never knew that, but could have guessed.

It could change, but it would require addressing social inequalities.

[RiversideRedneck]

Pat wrote:

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Stop lying. I feel that your caim of a god is unproved, not disproved.

I feel that your feeling us unproved.

[RiversideRedneck]

Pat wrote:

There can be evidence for both memory and emotion.

Right. But we know they exist. Just like God.

[Hidingfromyou]

Pat wrote:

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"The US reports over 9000 homicides per year and something like 2000 or so accidents. That's about 18000 times the Japan rate, and 6000 times the Canadian one."
Adjust for our black and hispanic population and remove all their sensless gun violence and THEN compare it with Japan and Canada and see what you learn.
"I suspect, b/c of inequalities in wealth, education and access to health care, the US is going to have high figures in yearly per capita violent deaths regardless of gun control."
We are not all equal clones, inequalities in IQ and moral sense exist and account for these other inequalities.

All peoples share the same biology, same underlying genetics. Skin color makes up for all of 6-7 genes out of 25 000. Nationality and culture are not genetic components.

I'm assuming that by using racial categories you're referring to social inequalities that promote poverty and violence.

So as a nation, you're arguing that you must address your social inequalities to stave off violent deaths. Ok, I'm in agreement with that.

If, on the other hand, you're suggesting racist interpretations, I disagree, for the above reasons.

[Aerobatty]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

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No smoking while walking?!?
Does the Japanese government allow any freedoms?

Freddom from getting your clothes or kids burnt by careless passing smokers.

[RiversideRedneck]

Aerobatty wrote:

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Do you wear ear protection when you're shooting?

Always. My hearing loss is genetic.

[Hidingfromyou]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

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No smoking while walking?!?
Does the Japanese government allow any freedoms?

Only if you are a 20 year old non-smoking boy who has a few months before college. Then, it's like Disneyland! Woohooo!

Well, you can drink anywhere. Movie theaters, passenger in a car, on the bus, in a train, in the park...doesn't matter. You can usually smoke anywhere, too, but some cities post those non-smoking signs.

Oh, and homosexual prostitution is legal. As are any kind of prostitution not directly involving sexual intercourse between a man and woman. So if you just want a bj, we have cafes for that, for you.

Go hard or go home!

[Aerobatty]

Freedom.

Freddom is silly.

[RiversideRedneck]

It aint necessarily so wrote:

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The increased expense of health care in smokers relative to nonsmokers. If the average smoker costs society $100,000 each before they die, they should pay $100,000 more dollars in tobacco taxes first. At two packs a day for fifty years, which is about 36,000 packs, the tax should be about three bucks a pack.
That marginal cost.
Do you think that it unfair to ask you to carry your own weight?

No. But I already carry my own weight, why should I be charged even more?

I pay about $5,000 a year in federal income tax.

I pay &400/ month for medical insurance.

Using your 50 year calculation, I'm gonna pay (assuming the rates don't go up, which they already have) upwards of half a million.

Now why don't you figure into account how much a diabetic person "costs" taxpayers. See if they're pulling their weight...

[RiversideRedneck]

Mylan wrote:

<quoted text>Which is why they have 20MPH speed limits for schools. Your point?

Ya well, they also have a "no shooting at kids" law... Your point?

[RiversideRedneck]

Pat wrote:

I think you are wrong and here is why. Atheists and theists do not argue over the merits of believing in aliens on Pluto, or leprechauns.

You're right. Atheists only dispute Christians.

[Mylan]

Pat wrote:

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Since when does a lunatic out to kill people with a car care about speed limits?

Who said he has to care? You break the law you pay the penalty. Hence, the reason for that law.

[RiversideRedneck]

Mylan wrote:

<quoted text>Too bad second hand smoke and cancer don't care about being polite. Ah, what a perfect world this would be.

I hope you don't live near cars.

They put out as much deadly pollution in one minute that a typical smoker does in one year.

Cars are deadly, you should ban them.

[Mylan]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

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Ya well, they also have a "no shooting at kids" law...

Link?

[Mylan]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

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If you ever encounter an armed robber or home invader, you can ask him that.

You make an excellent point for gun insurance. Thank you.

[RiversideRedneck]

Hidingfromyou wrote:

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Only if you are a 20 year old non-smoking boy who has a few months before college. Then, it's like Disneyland! Woohooo!
Well, you can drink anywhere. Movie theaters, passenger in a car, on the bus, in a train, in the park...doesn't matter. You can usually smoke anywhere, too, but some cities post those non-smoking signs.
Oh, and homosexual prostitution is legal. As are any kind of prostitution not directly involving sexual intercourse between a man and woman. So if you just want a bj, we have cafes for that, for you.
Go hard or go home!

LMAO!

Drink anywhere.

Homo bj's.

But don't smoke!

OK, you can stop bragging about Japan's awesomeness....

[RiversideRedneck]

Aerobatty wrote:

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Freddom from getting your clothes or kids burnt by careless passing smokers.

I have the freedom to burn your clothes with my cigarette.

HA HA

[Mylan]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

They put out as much deadly pollution in one minute that a typical smoker does in one year.

Which is why there are laws about new cars having catalytic converters. Your point?