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#587377 Jan 13, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Depends.
If you leave your keys in the ignition, and a 13-year-old steals your car and runs over people, yes, you could be in some trouble.
Why?

Did you force the kid to steal?

Did you help him run over people?

Did your keys seduce him?

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#587378 Jan 13, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Why was that guy an idiot?
You guys were outside on a hill.
Is it because you dislike the smell of his cigar?
Perhaps he disliked the look of your face.
.. again, some people have asthma, some COPD. If you light up a cigarette or cigar, you are forcing them to move ..

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#587379 Jan 13, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You saying that pot is healthier than tobacco?
yes. Where have you been the last decade. More and more is coming out about how the cigarette companies knew tobacco was additive. Not only did they know it was additive, they knew just how much tar and nicotine was necessary to keep it additive and they never went below those levels. They also developed more additive strands of tobacco in places like Brazil to avoid gov't regulations and oversight.

If you really want to be enlightened about the dangers of tobacco. research what other chemicals are in cigarettes.

“Ditat Deus”

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#587380 Jan 13, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
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geesh that is one dumb analogy. Cars are designed for transportation, while guns are designed for killing. Now you can use guns for another purpose, target shooting. But target shooting in itself is designed to increase your skill in the principle function of the gun, to kill. To say otherwise is a gross dishonest statement.
Its like the idiots that compare gun deaths to deaths caused by automobile accidents. Then suggesting we should outlaw cars, because they kill more people than guns.
Of course these idiots overlook the one key critical fact.
People who are killed in automobile accidents are killed ACCIDENTALLY. they are not killed intentionally.
Of course there are people who are killed intentionally by a car, but those outliers are statistically insignificant.
Whereas the vast majority of people killed by guns are killed intentionally.
and 100% of those people murdered by guns, close to 10,000, are killed intentionally.
OK, fine.

What if someone breaks into my home & steals my gun and uses it for crime?

Would you blame me or the thief?

====OR====

What if someone breaks into my home & steals my bat and uses it for crime?

“Ditat Deus”

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#587381 Jan 13, 2013
Mylan wrote:
<quoted text>What about when someone who's not a hypocrite tells you it's bad for you?
I ain't met one yet.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#587383 Jan 13, 2013
Mylan wrote:
<quoted text>Because if the gun wasn't available in the first place, then it couldn't have been stolen. What part of that don't you understand?
I understand that.

I don't understand why you'd favor the criminal...

I don't understand why you won't acknowledge that a burglar can steal anything in your home and use it as a weapon....

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#587382 Jan 13, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Then I apologize.
I'm just used to hypocrites telling me how bad smoking is.
Like my little brother, an avid pot smoker, tells me.
Or that fat broad at work, telling me that cigarettes kill while at the sane time chorine down a whole pizza.
Or boooots, need I say more?
Chorine down a whole pizza, not familiar with that phrase.

as for pot smoking, I don't know too many people who light up a fat one in a bar and expose everybody else to second hand smoke. And the days of going to concerts with clouds of pot smoke after the first act are over, just as smoking in public places is becoming extinct.

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

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#587384 Jan 13, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Yes, I say that tobacco is worse for your health than pot.
.. Teflon could be very bad for one's health ..

Since: Jan 11

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#587385 Jan 13, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
You saying that pot is healthier than tobacco?
I'm willing to look at the research, again.

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#587386 Jan 13, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Why?
Did you force the kid to steal?
Did you help him run over people?
Did your keys seduce him?
so if I leave a loaded gun on the front stoop and its stolen, I shouldn't be liable???

how about dynamite, if I leave a couple of cases of TNT out in the front yard and some Middle Eastern terrorists steal it then blow up a building killing hundreds of Americans, I shouldn't be liable...at least according to you.

tell me where does personal responsibility come into play???

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#587387 Jan 13, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Yes, I say that tobacco is worse for your health than pot.
Smoking a single marijuana joint is equivalent to smoking 2.5 to 5 cigarettes in terms of damage to the lungs, mostly because of the differences in how pot and cigarette users smoke.

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#587388 Jan 13, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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OK, fine.
What if someone breaks into my home & steals my gun and uses it for crime?
Would you blame me or the thief?
====OR====
What if someone breaks into my home & steals my bat and uses it for crime?
was the gun locked up? as I said before, its primary purpose is to kill.

a bat's primary purpose is to strike a ball.

Dude you are seriously reaching here.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#587389 Jan 13, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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No matter how bad other things are, smoking cigarettes is still extremely unhealthy.
Calling people hypocrites does not defeat their arguments, if those arguments are still valid.
I didn't say or imply that it defeated their arguments.

All I'm saying is hypocritical it is that people who are indulging in deadly or unhealthy practices have the nerve to say that cigarettes are bad.

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#587390 Jan 13, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. again, some people have asthma, some COPD. If you light up a cigarette or cigar, you are forcing them to move ..
So.

Either you move or they move...

If it was me, smoking outside on a hill at a concert, and someone nearby asked me to move because they had asthma, I'd move.

If that same person was a dick about it, likes boooots' story, I'd blow smoke in their face.

“Ditat Deus”

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#587391 Jan 13, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
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yes. Where have you been the last decade. More and more is coming out about how the cigarette companies knew tobacco was additive. Not only did they know it was additive, they knew just how much tar and nicotine was necessary to keep it additive and they never went below those levels. They also developed more additive strands of tobacco in places like Brazil to avoid gov't regulations and oversight.
If you really want to be enlightened about the dangers of tobacco. research what other chemicals are in cigarettes.
Huh? You know that pot is highly addictive too, doncha?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#587392 Jan 13, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
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Chorine down a whole pizza, not familiar with that phrase.
as for pot smoking, I don't know too many people who light up a fat one in a bar and expose everybody else to second hand smoke. And the days of going to concerts with clouds of pot smoke after the first act are over, just as smoking in public places is becoming extinct.
Ain't been to a concert lately, have ya?

Since: Jan 11

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#587393 Jan 13, 2013
River Tam wrote:
I'm gonna have to agree with RR on this one. What happened to the bar owner's rights? If he/she wants to allow smoking in their establishment then it should be up to them. Put a sign on the door. "By entering, you accept the fact that you may come in contact with second hand smoke". If you don't like that, don't go in. If you don't want to work there, work elsewhere.
As far as private property, I think owners should be allowed to dictate whether patrons should be allowed to smoke or not.

For most types of businesses, it wouldn't be smart to allow smoking, but for bars, I think they would do alright to allow smoking. The business they would lose from non-smokers would probably be made up by smokers who like to drink while they smoke, and do a lot of each.

I don't know about strip clubs. That's a HARD one.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#587394 Jan 13, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. Teflon could be very bad for one's health ..
Yes but Pyrex is good for ya!
Pat

East Granby, CT

#587395 Jan 13, 2013
Mylan wrote:
<quoted text>Not trying to help the fundies but... there was a time before it was possible to see an atom, so "seeing" really has nothing to do with it. NASA scientist have a saying "Just because you can't see something, doesn't mean it doesn't exist." Imagine that..
In other words your claim of IQ tests being biased is without merit if you can't point to the bias or create an IQ test you will admit is not biased. Like I said racial equality nonsense is dogma and excuse making.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#587396 Jan 13, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
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so if I leave a loaded gun on the front stoop and its stolen, I shouldn't be liable???
how about dynamite, if I leave a couple of cases of TNT out in the front yard and some Middle Eastern terrorists steal it then blow up a building killing hundreds of Americans, I shouldn't be liable...at least according to you.
tell me where does personal responsibility come into play???
Front stoop? Lol, that's negligence. We're talking about a thief stealing a gun from a nightstand drawer, not a front stoop.

Ya, if you leave TNT on your front yard & it's used in a crime, you'd be partly liable. BUT if you had it in your basement, in a box & those terrorists broke in, found it & stole it, you shouldn't be liable.

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