Prove there's a god.

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#585500 Jan 9, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Apparently you haven't caught on that the internet is as adept at allowing anybody and everybody to pass on misinformation.
What does a BOOK have to do with the internet?
Horus wasn't just born, as Jesus was.
Both were just stories. One based on the other.
There is nothing virginal about that.
Yeah, except for the whole dickless part....
Horus was not born to a Mary & Joseph
Are you going out of your way to be stupid? In Greek her name is Meri and his name is was Jo-Seph. Oh yeah and by the way, Jesus' name is a Greek form of a very common Semitic name Jeshu'a, Oh snap!
Horus was born in a swamp, Jesus a manger.
Nope, some versions say it was a cave.
There were no angels for Horus' birth.
There were 3 solar deities.
Horus was never baptized in any of the Horus stories.
He was baptized at age 30 In the river Eridanus. The fate of his baptiser:was beheading. Jesus was baptized at age 30 In the river Jordan. The fate of his baptiser:was beheading. No, there's no comparisons there.
Horus didn't walk on water.
He walked on water, cast out demons, healed the sick, restored sight to the blind. He "stilled the sea by his power." Jesus walked on water, cast out demons, healed the sick, restored sight to the blind. He ordered the sea with a "Peace, be still" command. Wow, imagine that.
Jesus was resurrected fully, Horus wasn't.
Actually he was, resurrected after three days. Wow, how about jesus?

Admit it redneck, you never even read the book. LOL...
God Himself

Kingston, Jamaica

#585501 Jan 9, 2013
Pat wrote:
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...Which is exactly what you did when you attempted to offer me a single fact to show how your god and an imaginary god differ. You simply offered and unsupported claim that god created everything.
I could tell you that God told me he was real and point you to a copy of His best selling book, the Bible; but you would perhaps revolt.

I could tell you that science showed me that God is real and point out to you that evolutionary algorithm is being used to make artificial intelligence capable devices; which demonstrate that evolution is an effective tool for intelligent creation especially by a creative God. But you would probably say you are 'not satisfied'(in less dignified terms).
Pat wrote:
"They simply speculate that life does not end completely when the vitality of the "corpse" is compromised.
You have no knowledge."
The one clinging to absurd speculations is you faith filled theists. We know for a fact that when the brain is damaged or dies that it's function is lost. We have stroke victims who have had brain damage not be able to recognize a spouse of 50 years and we know this memory is gone, destroyed when the brain was damaged. We KNOW what happens when we die. We KNOW memory and awareness cease upon death.
You dont know that memory and awareness cease upon death.

Have you ever died to know that memory and awareness cease upon death?

Who has come back from the dead to tell you?

You are using an argument from ignorance.
Pat wrote:
You just deny these facts and cling to a belief you are half mammal half ghost which is utterly absurd. Tell me, if a corpse is not enough proof for you that death ends personal memory and awareness then what would be enough proof for you you foolish death denier?
It doesnt matter whether death ends personal memeory and awareness or not. The idea is that the will to live must always remain in you.

If you found that there is just a slight probability that you could live even after your "corpse" is destroyed, wouldnt you be interested to find out how?

Your reasoning suggests that you are nihilistic in your personal philosophy. Are you?

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#585502 Jan 9, 2013
God Himself wrote:
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I dont know that I would want to be on the same page with a person who uses a picture of a human skull as his icon. Thats creepy -_-
As it relates to God and human attributes: God DOES POSSES human attributes. The human attributes of God were demonstrated best in a man called Jesu(s).
I suspect that you will be dissatisfied with that response because your intentions are perhaps to remove Jesu(s) from the equations.
The concept of God is very easily appreciated, I know. Even if one were to simply accept the premises that His Potentials exist without accepting any description of His character, one could see their influences in nature.
But that Jesu(s) character is a real problem for you isnt he?
Yes, it is. I can see that you can see the relationship of numbers in energy relation and the action of ordered structure formation(dynamics actually). The Dogon hold the best information(ancient). We are just now discovering what they have known for thousands of years(including quantum physics and symbols).
Chaos lends to order-leads to entropy-(unless interrupted).

“Ditat Deus”

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#585503 Jan 9, 2013
Mylan wrote:
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What does a BOOK have to do with the internet?
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Both were just stories. One based on the other.
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Yeah, except for the whole dickless part....
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Are you going out of your way to be stupid? In Greek her name is Meri and his name is was Jo-Seph. Oh yeah and by the way, Jesus' name is a Greek form of a very common Semitic name Jeshu'a, Oh snap!
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Nope, some versions say it was a cave.
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There were 3 solar deities.
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He was baptized at age 30 In the river Eridanus. The fate of his baptiser:was beheading. Jesus was baptized at age 30 In the river Jordan. The fate of his baptiser:was beheading. No, there's no comparisons there.
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He walked on water, cast out demons, healed the sick, restored sight to the blind. He "stilled the sea by his power." Jesus walked on water, cast out demons, healed the sick, restored sight to the blind. He ordered the sea with a "Peace, be still" command. Wow, imagine that.
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Actually he was, resurrected after three days. Wow, how about jesus?
Admit it redneck, you never even read the book. LOL...
hmmm....

We are at an impasse. What now?

My evidence refuted yours.

Your evidence refutes mine.

So.....

Ah f_ck it. I'm havin a beer & listening to Disturbed.

G'nite.

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#585504 Jan 9, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
Yep, they just snip it right off.
I hope you're talking about coupons.

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#585505 Jan 9, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Your evidence refutes mine.
You have NEVER posted ANY "evidence". All you posted was incorrect opinion.

And we haven't even started going over Mithra. LOL..

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#585506 Jan 9, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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Hahah! Sue?? Sioux! I don't see any improvement...sorry.
.. Patricia insists 'Sue' is a 'legit' spelling for Sioux ..

.. as a bona fide 'Sue,' she's allowed to glue feathers to her wigwam. Hasn't molted for 35+ years ..
God Himself

Kingston, Jamaica

#585507 Jan 9, 2013
Pat wrote:
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You are disengenous about the word faith. Faith has more than one meaning and the meaning that applies to relgious faith is a belief that is NOT based on proof.
Is there a rule or law that says "NO INDIVIDUAL SHALL BASE HIS/HER RELIGIOUS FAITH ON TANGIBLE PROOF"?

I dont know where you get the idea that all religious faith is of that nature; you are making hasty generalizations.

My religious faith is based on my real world experiences.
Pat wrote:
"Circular reasoning is described as a type of arguing where the person starts out with what they are trying to prove."
Which is exactly what you did when you attempted to offer me a single fact to show how your god and an imaginary god differ. You simply offered and unsupported claim that god created everything.
That was neither circular reasoning nor an unsupported claim; it was an expression of the differences I see between my God and an imaginary god(s).

If you wanted evidence for my claim that God created everything, you should ask for it.

If you want TANGIBLE PROOF that my God is different from imaginary gods, you should ask for it. You did not specify whether you wanted proof or an expression of my perception.
Pat wrote:
... You are no brave person, you are a dishonest death denier denying the reality of a corpse going through life using the crutch of feel good mythology as a means to cope... The one clinging to absurd speculations is you faith filled theists who think you are half ghost! We know for a fact that when the brain is damaged or dies that it's function is lost. We have stroke victims who have had brain damage not be able to recognize a spouse of 50 years and we know this memory is gone, destroyed when the brain was damaged. We KNOW what happens when we die. We KNOW memory and awareness cease upon death. You just deny these facts and cling to a belief you are half mammal half ghost which is utterly absurd. Tell me, if a corpse is not enough proof for you that death ends personal memory and awareness then what would be enough proof for you you foolish death denier?
I am not a death denier; I am a death defier :P

You have "stroke victims who have had brain damage not be able to recognize a spouse of 50 years and we know this memory is gone, destroyed when the brain was damaged..?"

Well I have Dr. Eben Alexande.

"Eben Alexander said he saw heaven during a seven-day coma brought on by bacterial meningitis and E. coli bacteria eating his brain. The experience happened, he said, as his brain had supposedly gone completely inactive. During the experience, he traveled on the wing of a butterfly with a biological sister he had never met, the adopted doctor said."

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/...

You are so nihilistic and fatalistic and all those bad -istics.

How old are you?

Do you have a boyfriend?

When was the last time you got laid?

Since: Jan 11

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#585508 Jan 9, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
It's a long story but I'll summarize.
God placed His hand on my head, like you would palming a basketball. He said to me: "He's here."
His voice eerily sounded like my own. I can't explain it.
It was more than just a touch, though. It's like I felt the live of God pass through my body & soul.
You attribute this to "God" without a direct link, is that correct?

Even if God exists, it could have been something else, so assigning credit to God, when there is no direct link, would still be jumping to an unsupported conclusion.

Anything, even a shiver, can be attributed to whatever non-mundane thing a person believes in. Literally, people get a cold chill in a dilapidated old house and think it's the dead groundskeeper haunting the place.

I still maintain that the best justification for faith and religion are the demonstrable benefits. I wouldn't personally rely on feelings or experiences I couldn't explain, even if I was able to maintain a belief in something I couldn't demonstrate. Religion itself is real. Faith is real. They have real effects, some good. But it is almost impossible to get that good without getting a lot more bad.
God Himself

Kingston, Jamaica

#585509 Jan 9, 2013
Pat wrote:
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Speculate is right. You have no knowledge that a corpse does not represent what it represents. You have no knowledge that you are anything but a mammal. You have no knowledge of any gods. You have an empty cup of false hope that you cling to because you refuse to cope with your mortality honestly. You are a dishonest coward who is afraid to think and has surrendered your mind over to dogma.
All of that is mere speculation :P

Whats your phone number?

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#585510 Jan 9, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
she's allowed to glue feathers to her wigwam.
Glue works much better than duct tape...

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#585512 Jan 9, 2013
Mylan wrote:
I hope you're talking about coupons.
10% off.

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#585513 Jan 9, 2013
God Himself wrote:
The idea is that the will to live must always remain in you.
Why?

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#585514 Jan 9, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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10% off.
Some stores double the amount.

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#585515 Jan 9, 2013
Mylan wrote:
Glue works much better than duct tape...
Can you glue it back on?

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#585516 Jan 9, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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Can you glue it back on?
Someone hide the staple gun.
God Himself

Kingston, Jamaica

#585517 Jan 9, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> They appeal to the physical yes they physically exist. Do you deny they do not exist and are detectable in the physical reality?
Yes they exist, but do they exist in a form that is readily perceived by the human senses?

Have you ever seen a radio wave except when it is REPRESENTED on a through some technologically assisted means? No.

Those things exist though you have no natural sense experiences of them.

What you are able to detect with the aid of instruments is a measurement of the instrument itself; for it is the effect on the instrument that the instrument is able to measure.

You seem to have developed a habit of saying what has no meaning in reality. Let me show you what has no meaning in reality:

"Do you deny they do not exist and are detectable..?"

That is a true definition of what has no meaning in reality.
God Himself

Kingston, Jamaica

#585518 Jan 9, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> We in fact know the entire spectrum of electromagnetic radiation ,we also know human ability to to detect them is limited by human sight and hearing as well as sound. But we also know the limits of them beyond our ability to detect them. We can detect them to the limit of their ability.
You are trying to say my ability is not good enough to detect your god.
No. You do not know anything beyond your physical ability/capacities as such; it is absurd to think you can. It would be like trying to contain ten litres of water in a 1 litre container.

Any attempt to know something beyond your physical capacity constitutes assumptions and speculations.

I am saying all human experiences are subjective; whether they are scientifically inclined or religiously inclined.
Aura Mytha wrote:
So this could be said infinitely, but you have not produced an effect your god created.
I have "produced effects that my God created"; you just choose to ignore it.
Aura Mytha wrote:
So you in reality, are doing little more than grasping at straws in attempt to justify your insanity.
And perpetual notion that it can not be explained.
When clearly it has and the perimeters well defined.
Thats your attempt to justify the insanity that you have in your mind that you are projecting onto me :P
God Himself

Kingston, Jamaica

#585519 Jan 9, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Another words you have an inventive but over active imagination.
I could say the same about you.
TLC

Birmingham, AL

#585520 Jan 9, 2013
Mylan wrote:
<quoted text>You have NEVER posted ANY "evidence"...
And he never will, so buzz off, loser.

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