Prove there's a god.
God Himself

Kingston, Jamaica

#585313 Jan 9, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Anything that exists physically can be tested.
I agree. But there are some physical things that can only be tested by logic and reasoning, since they dont appeal to the physical sense capacities.
Aura Mytha wrote:
The only test that indicates the presence of god that is physical you are not going to like.
I tend to agree with that also.

To experience Pure Omnipotence in your physical form would be like testing the voltage in a 20000000000000 volt power line by touching the bare cables with your bare hands.

OUCH!

That would prove

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#585314 Jan 9, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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You mean like Noah's ark being at the olympics?
No, more like:

Deluge Tablet
Atra-Hasis tablets
Law tablets – ancient Near East legal tablets
Hittite texts
Minoan Eruption
Ugaritic religious texts
Amarna letters
Ipuwer Papyrus
Midianite pottery
Merneptah Stele 6-chamber gates
Khirbet Qeiyafa pottery sherd
Gezer calendar
Tell es-Safi Potsherd
Bubastis portal
Shishaq Relief
Khirbet Qeiyafa shrines
Isbeth Sartah ostracon
Amman Citadel Inscription
Tel Dan Stele
Melcarth/Ben-Hadad stele
Seal of Jehucal
Kurkh Monolith
The Black Obelisk of Shalmaneser III
Ostraca House
Mesha stele
Balaam inscription

and many more...

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#585315 Jan 9, 2013
Freebird USA wrote:
<quoted text> They likely enter all your info into a database anyway when they recieve your check.
Ya, I know. But I think I'm less likely to be a victim of identity theft that by using checks for bills instead of online bill pay.

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#585316 Jan 9, 2013
God Himself wrote:
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If you describe the attributes or potentials of leprechauns I am sure I could plan and design an experiment to test for leprechauns.
Almost anything can be tested for, IF you know the attributes you are testing for. The problem is with learning the attributes of the thing.
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I cant prove that they dont exist. But the inability to prove the non-existence of a thing makes the search for it valid and worthwhile. Unless you think it is valid to search for what is proven to be non-existent.
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My God differs from the imaginary god in the sense that my God created universe and all of reality.
The imaginary god on the other hand, the one you are saying doesnt exist only creates frustration in your minds.
<quoted text>
But it is you who claim that *GOD DOES NOT EXIST*, so it is up to you to prove that *GOD DOES NOT EXIST*.
Where is your proof of that which is non-existent (especially since a non-existent cannot be tested). LOL!
Why bother?
If you are so interested to SAY that God doesn't exist; why aren't you interested to PROVE that God doesn't exist?
All you have is talk about the non-existence of God, where is the fact; where is the proof?
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If you invented an anti gravity machine, IT IS UP TO YOU TO PROVE IT IF YOU INTEND TO CONVINCE ME THAT YOU INVENTED ONE.
The only time I must PROVE THAT YOU DID NOT invent one is when I plan to steal your construction plans for your anti gravity machine or just steal the machine for what its worth.
The burden of proof concept does not give your claims credence.
The only place god exists that can be affirmed is in electrical chemical reactions in the brain. So gods do exist but only in your mind. Some would call it a brain disorder, I wouldn't go that far but would call it a brain condition.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#585317 Jan 9, 2013
Mylan wrote:
<quoted text>You do know that checks can be erased right?
That wonderful time tested method of making a few extra bucks by driving around checking mailboxes with the little red flag in the up position. Swiping the bills,extracting the checks,washing them and making them out to Jim Nasium or Tex Tile to cash.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#585318 Jan 9, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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All I see is awesomeness.
Joke's on you.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#585319 Jan 9, 2013
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>Nuh uh.
So your view is that each of us gets to decide what is and what isn't a murder?

That would be an interesting proposition. Why not do that for all crimes, and do away with the law altogether?

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#585320 Jan 9, 2013
God Himself wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree. But there are some physical things that can only be tested by logic and reasoning, since they dont appeal to the physical sense capacities.
<quoted text>
I tend to agree with that also.
To experience Pure Omnipotence in your physical form would be like testing the voltage in a 20000000000000 volt power line by touching the bare cables with your bare hands.
OUCH!
That would prove

Anything that exist physically can be tested physically.

"They don't appeal to the physical sense"

Has no meaning in reality.

"Pure Omnipotence in your physical form."

Has no meaning in reality.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#585321 Jan 9, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Agreed, but it is legal in a very limited way to grow in some places.
There is a very small medicinal market.
Has been for quite some time.
Reeks of entrapment and sting too.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#585322 Jan 9, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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There is no test for something that doesn't exist.
How would you test for nothing?
This reminds me of my fourth grade teacher.

When she called the roll once, she said, "When I call your name, if you're absent, raise your hand."

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#585323 Jan 9, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
All I see is awesomeness.
That's your TV.

You got the Spice channel?
Pat

East Granby, CT

#585324 Jan 9, 2013
God Himself wrote:
<quoted text>
If you describe the attributes or potentials of leprechauns I am sure I could plan and design an experiment to test for leprechauns.
Almost anything can be tested for, IF you know the attributes you are testing for. The problem is with learning the attributes of the thing.
<quoted text>
I cant prove that they dont exist. But the inability to prove the non-existence of a thing makes the search for it valid and worthwhile. Unless you think it is valid to search for what is proven to be non-existent.
<quoted text>
My God differs from the imaginary god in the sense that my God created universe and all of reality.
The imaginary god on the other hand, the one you are saying doesnt exist only creates frustration in your minds.
<quoted text>
But it is you who claim that *GOD DOES NOT EXIST*, so it is up to you to prove that *GOD DOES NOT EXIST*.
Where is your proof of that which is non-existent (especially since a non-existent cannot be tested). LOL!
Why bother?
If you are so interested to SAY that God doesn't exist; why aren't you interested to PROVE that God doesn't exist?
All you have is talk about the non-existence of God, where is the fact; where is the proof?
<quoted text>
If you invented an anti gravity machine, IT IS UP TO YOU TO PROVE IT IF YOU INTEND TO CONVINCE ME THAT YOU INVENTED ONE.
The only time I must PROVE THAT YOU DID NOT invent one is when I plan to steal your construction plans for your anti gravity machine or just steal the machine for what its worth.
The burden of proof concept does not give your claims credence.
"My God differs from the imaginary god in the sense that my God created universe and all of reality."

No Mother Goose did that. You see how easy it is to be an amoral liar just like you? You are a fruad.

"If you are so interested to SAY that God doesn't exist; why aren't you interested to PROVE that God doesn't exist?"

I'm not interested in saying anthing more than your claim that a god does exist is a lie for you no more know a god exists then you know there are aliens on Pluto so to make a claim that you do not know is true is to tell a lie and the accidental truth of your claim does not excuse you.
Pat

East Granby, CT

#585325 Jan 9, 2013
United in faith wrote:
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so you would rather be ignorant and say you don't know?
relgion isn't the answer
God is not about religion.
the answer is only found in HIS word.
He says the ungodly are ever learning but never coming to the fullness of truth.
One is closer to the truth who believes nothing then one who believes what is wrong.

God is not about religion like Mother Goose is not a fairytale. Stop lying you amoral dope.

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#585326 Jan 9, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Ya, I know. But I think I'm less likely to be a victim of identity theft that by using checks for bills instead of online bill pay.
Not really because most identity thieves hack the information from data held about you that is held regardless whether you write checks or not , or get that information out of peoples trash. The only difference would be if you never even check your bank balance online or not have an internet connection at all.
Some services you can't get at all without using some form of internet banking. But most banking online is protected so why worry?

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#585327 Jan 9, 2013
God Himself wrote:
<quoted text>
If you describe the attributes or potentials of leprechauns I am sure I could plan and design an experiment to test for leprechauns.
Almost anything can be tested for, IF you know the attributes you are testing for. The problem is with learning the attributes of the thing.
<quoted text>
I cant prove that they dont exist. But the inability to prove the non-existence of a thing makes the search for it valid and worthwhile. Unless you think it is valid to search for what is proven to be non-existent.
<quoted text>
My God differs from the imaginary god in the sense that my God created universe and all of reality.
The imaginary god on the other hand, the one you are saying doesnt exist only creates frustration in your minds.
<quoted text>
But it is you who claim that *GOD DOES NOT EXIST*, so it is up to you to prove that *GOD DOES NOT EXIST*.
Where is your proof of that which is non-existent (especially since a non-existent cannot be tested). LOL!
Why bother?
If you are so interested to SAY that God doesn't exist; why aren't you interested to PROVE that God doesn't exist?
All you have is talk about the non-existence of God, where is the fact; where is the proof?
<quoted text>
If you invented an anti gravity machine, IT IS UP TO YOU TO PROVE IT IF YOU INTEND TO CONVINCE ME THAT YOU INVENTED ONE.
The only time I must PROVE THAT YOU DID NOT invent one is when I plan to steal your construction plans for your anti gravity machine or just steal the machine for what its worth.
The burden of proof concept does not give your claims credence.
I got lost between your gobbledy and your gook.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#585328 Jan 9, 2013
God Himself wrote:
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I tend to agree with you on that. The "abrahamic portrayal" of "god" is a problem even for people who believe in God.
I mean an Omnipotent being is expected to behave Omnipotently; and there are situation where the "God" described in the abrahamic portrayal is less than Omnipotent (sometimes He borders on petty).
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Mankind is rather egotistic and has demonstrated the will to corrupt even the best knowledge to suit his selfish ends and agendas.
When discussing "proof of God" it is important to note that existence of God in Himself is independent of the validity of biblical claims about God and biblical portrayals of God.
God is what He/It is regardless of how He/It is portrayed.
OK. Now if you could eliminate the need for human attributes and limitations, we might be closer to being on the same page.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#585329 Jan 9, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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This reminds me of my fourth grade teacher.
When she called the roll once, she said, "When I call your name, if you're absent, raise your hand."
My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#585330 Jan 9, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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That's your TV.
You got the Spice channel?
Ya but its just salt and pepper.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#585331 Jan 9, 2013
Pat wrote:
I'm not interested in saying anthing more than your claim that a god does exist is a lie for
By you calling it a lie that God is nonexistent is your assertion.

I take it you have a deity disproving machine?
Pat

East Granby, CT

#585332 Jan 9, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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In just 2,000 years the followers & believers of Jesus have spread from just a few dozen to over a third of the planets population.
The onus is also on you, you are claiming that there is no God.
I've made no such claim so you can stop lying now. I feel your claim of a god is unproven, not that it has been disproven.

I also don't care how many death denying suckers have been drawn in your flavor of god garbage for that proves nothing other than the ignorance of one third of mankind and that is also a fallacious argument called the appeal to majority, look it up. A lie does not become true when a certain number of people believe in it. Claiming there is a god with no knowledge that there is one is as dishonest as claiming you have won the lottery two days prior to the drawing.

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