Prove there's a god.

[OCB]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

<quoted text>
Then clearly it would be stupid to allow drugs to be legal and easier to get.

Pat wrote:

"An obese person is more likley to have a heart attack or stroke and if it occurs behind the wheel they are more dangerous than a drunk."

So why isn't it "stupid" to allow fattening, artery-clogging junk food to be sold?

Of course, I realize I am asking that of someone who has posted here that all Americans should eat hot dogs.....

[OCB]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

<quoted text>
I did not CLAIM to be touched by God. I shared a story with y'all that I WAS touched by God.
And I'm not the only one. He has touched billions of other people.
Exactly what scientific facts do you think I sneer at?

Oh please! Have you forgotten how many times you've made negative remarks about science, scientific discoveries determined as fact, and how you have posted to me and others here saying: "*your* precious science"??

[Mylan]

Dtz wrote:

<quoted text>
Dont let the xmas scam confuse the real history of Jesus who died on the cross at the hands of Pilate just as the Bible says.

Both Santa and jesus are myths. The bible is nothing but the worlds first comic book. Anyone who would believe (sometimes literally) anything from it is a fool just wasting their life away.

[Pat]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

<quoted text>
I did not CLAIM to be touched by God. I shared a story with y'all that I WAS touched by God.
And I'm not the only one. He has touched billions of other people.
Exactly what scientific facts do you think I sneer at?

Yeah right, Mother Goose has touched billions too. Still waiting for you to provde one fact that shows how your god and an imaginary god are not just alike.

Faith is dishonest and amoral, ask Honest Abe. Claiming there is a god is no more honest than claiming there are aliens on Pluto.

"It is an established maxim and moral that he who makes an assertion without knowing whether it is true or false is guilty of falsehood, and the accidental truth of the assertion does not justify or excuse him." Abraham Lincoln

[Mylan]

Pat wrote:

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God has done as much in your life as Mother Goose you dishonest arrogant fool.
"He is good, merciful, loving and just."
Then explain infant cancers, mental retardation and other serious birth defects, just to name a few, you lying fool.
"I have lived my life without God, and With God, and i can attest to the fact WITH God is far better."
You are no different from a drunk arguing the merits of alcohol abuse.
"and all He has done and continues to do in my life."
Well, aren't you special! He lets little children die of starvation while he toys with your personal life! All you prove is that you have a very huge ego.

Well stated.

[OCB]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

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It affects us all, OCB.
The point is your man Obama raised taxes on us. Again.
Gotta love him.

BULLSH*T. Someone making over $200,000 grand a year paying 0.9% more in Medicare taxes affects me not at ALL- other than possibly helping to insure that Medicare will still exist when I become eligible for it.

I have NO problem with taxes being raised- not even my own.

Then again, I AM a good American and while never pleasant or something anyone wants, taxes going up is a necessary "evil" and like anything else, as the cost of doing business increases, those costs get passed on to the consumer.

And sorry, bub- Obama did NOT raise taxes on ME or on YOU- he raised taxes on those who can AFFORD it.

[OCB]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

<quoted text>
It affects us all, OCB.
The point is your man Obama raised taxes on us. Again.
Gotta love him.

Gee- it seems you didn't even KNOW whose taxes were raised that 0.9%.

How could you have when you say he raised taxes on "us" when the FACT of the matter is he raised taxes on the upper income folks?

[boooots]

United in faith wrote:

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ONLY you would think plant life was equivalant to human life.

Paty, you claim or questioned that an acorn does nto have DNA. All living things have DNA.

"Deoxyribonucleic acid (DNA) is an informational molecule encoding the genetic instructions used in the development and functioning of all known living organisms and many viruses."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dna

"
What is DNA?

DNA, or deoxyribonucleic acid, is the hereditary material in humans and almost all other organisms. Nearly every cell in a person’s body has the same DNA. Most DNA is located in the cell nucleus (where it is called nuclear DNA), but a small amount of DNA can also be found in the mitochondria (where it is called mitochondrial DNA or mtDNA)."

http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/handbook/basics/dna

"
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Genetics. deoxyribonucleic acid: an extremely long macromolecule that is the main component of chromosomes and is the material that transfers genetic characteristics in all life forms, constructed of two nucleotide strands coiled around each other in a ladderlike arrangement with the sidepieces composed of alternating phosphate and deoxyribose units and the rungs composed of the purine and pyrimidine bases adenine, guanine, cytosine, and thymine: the genetic information of DNA is encoded in the sequence of the bases and is transcribed as the strands unwind and replicate. Compare base pair, gene, genetic code, RNA.
2.
the set of nongenetic traits, qualities, or features that characterize a person or thing: Humility is just not in her DNA.
"

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/dna

[Pat]

OCB wrote:

<quoted text>Pat wrote:
"An obese person is more likley to have a heart attack or stroke and if it occurs behind the wheel they are more dangerous than a drunk."
So why isn't it "stupid" to allow fattening, artery-clogging junk food to be sold?
Of course, I realize I am asking that of someone who has posted here that all Americans should eat hot dogs.....

Because I should be in control of my body, not you. Do you want me in control of yours?

I have no idea what you are talking about with the hot dog remark.

[Mylan]

Amish wrote:

no evidence any chicken has ever been anything other than a chicken. That's why they call it a THEORY and not a FACT.

The debate is over. Scientist have already documented the proof.Its there for anyone to review. You don't have to believe it. You obviously don't have a good grasp of reality or what real facts are anyway, so why should this be an exception?

[Pat]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

<quoted text>
It affects us all, OCB.
The point is your man Obama raised taxes on us. Again.
Gotta love him.

Your man Bush got us into all this debt with his bogus 10 year war in Iraq and now you fools don't want to pay for it. Obama inherited Bush's debt, who do you think is going to pay it down, the Chinese?

[Mylan]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

I ate the potato salad.
Sorry.
Here, eat some buns.
;)

BUNS??? What good are buns? I was really looking forward to having some of that potato salad.

[OCB]

Pat wrote:

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Because I should be in control of my body, not you. Do you want me in control of yours?
I have no idea what you are talking about with the hot dog remark.

That's because my post was addressed to RiversideRedneck and NOT you.

And actually, I was defending what you posted to RR- not criticizing it.

I see that you're just as defensive as you were some time ago, Pat....I wouldn't expect that to change, but you took offense when not only was none intended, nothing was posted for you to take offense about.

[spanky]

Mylan wrote:

Both Santa and jesus are myths. The bible is nothing but the worlds first comic book. Anyone who would believe (sometimes literally) anything from it is a fool just wasting their life away.

The marxist liars have been saying this. The historians who were there have the final word on the matter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_J...

[RiversideRedneck]

OCB wrote:

No- but it IS a right for people to just drop dead for no other reason than not being able to AFFORD insurance or health care, right?

Correct.

Obamacare is a MISNOMER, you dolt. It is NATIONAL health care.

Yes, it is an apt misnomer.

Hey- no one will be forced to have insurance; if they don't, they run the risk of not being treated.

Bullshit. If you don't have insurance you pay a fine (fancy word for tax).

Nope- you're a fear monger. No matter what happens, health insurers will NOT be put of out business or become government owned businesses any more than auto or home insurers are.

Time will tell....

But- good Christian that you are- you're just fine and dandy with people dropping dead for no other reason than not being able to access or afford health care.

Correct. I'm not at all for government handouts. If people want good health care, they should strive to be better & go buy it.

If you were the good American you claim to be (but are NOT), you would see the value in a HEALTHY citizenry and how that impacts our free enterprise system, since a HEALTHY work force is a PRODUCTIVE work force. The more Americans can produce, the healthier our economy is and the better our free enterprise systems works.

You're wrong. In all for good health care. I'm all for a healthier America.

I'm NOT for free healthcare. It isn't a right to have good health, it's a choice.

I'm not comfortable watching some fat ass pigging out on McDonald's or some crack head sleeping in the gutter knowing that MY tax money is paying for them to be "healthier". They obviously don't wanna be healthy.

[Mylan]

OCB wrote:

So why isn't it "stupid" to allow fattening, artery-clogging junk food to be sold?
.

It is, but those in power make a hell of a lot of money selling it, so a blind eye is turned.

[OCB]

Pat wrote:

<quoted text>
Your man Bush got us into all this debt with his bogus 10 year war in Iraq and now you fools don't want to pay for it. Obama inherited Bush's debt, who do you think is going to pay it down, the Chinese?

I'm not sure if Obama has added to our astounding debt to the Chinese which GW created, but taxing the wealthy in this country a paltry additional 0.9% in Medicare tax is hardly reason to feel sorry for the wealthy or for ANYONE for that matter.

Of course, those complaining about such a paltry tax increase will be the ones crying, screaming and whining the loudest should there be NO Medicare for them when they become eligible.

[spanky]

Mylan wrote:

The debate is over. Scientist have already documented the proof.Its there for anyone to review. You don't have to believe it. You obviously don't have a good grasp of reality or what real facts are anyway, so why should this be an exception?

The debate is not over. Other scientists disagree.

http://creation.com/bird-evolution-flies-out-...

Fossil frauds

www.paleodirect.com/fakepterosaurbirdfossils....

[OCB]

Pat wrote:

<quoted text>
Because I should be in control of my body, not you. Do you want me in control of yours?
I have no idea what you are talking about with the hot dog remark.

Just to try to clarify:

RR said: Then clearly it would be stupid to allow drugs to be legal and easier to get.

That was in response to what you said about obese people, so my point to RR was that if it would be stupid to allow drugs to be legal and easier to get, why would it be stupid to ban fatty and artery clogging foods which also put one at risk when behind the wheel as you stated and correctly so?

The hot dog remark was also addressed to RR- since some weeks ago, he said that all Americans should eat hot dogs.

Hope this helps.

[RiversideRedneck]

OCB wrote:

Married filing jointly $250,000
Married filing separately $125,000
Single $200,000
Head of household (with qualifying person)$200,000
Qualifying widow(er) with dependent child $200,000
So the above people who are the ones who will be affected by the 0.9% Medicare tax increase are of great concern to you?
Do YOU fall into ANY of the above categories regarding your income?
If not, WTF is it to you?
You're a SHILL for the rich, RR- just the way the rich want it.

I disagree with taxes being raised in anyone, especially during a recession.

You're not talking about super rich, you're talking about everyday people; lawyers, professors, dentist, contractors, etc all who'll be affected by the tax hike and in turn charge us more for their services to help offset their loss.

It's a lose-lose situation, except for the government...