Prove there's a god.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#582418 Jan 4, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>So the 26 people killed at Sandy Hook with legally purchased and owned weapons were "enemy units"? The people killed by a shooter at a Batman movie were "enemy units"? The students killed at Virginia Tech and Columbine were "enemy units"?
They were all enemy units who needed to be rendered "combat ineffective"?
What you say may apply to armed personnel in law enforcement or in the military but it sure as hell does not apply to ordinary citizens walking around armed- many of whom are armed LEGALLY.
I once saw a Seabee training manual.

There was a chapter on "organic weaponry".

I thought it must have some kind of organic toxins or something, but it was all the different firearms used by the military.

Reading a bit of the chapter, and its repeated use of the term "organic units", it turned out that "organic unit" is the term they used for soldiers.

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#582419 Jan 4, 2013
UR BS wrote:
My contention is that it was made as an insult and if you read what I posted that she said when I confronted her with it shows the intent as an insult.
So you can defend her all you like but the insult was intended and was confirmed with her own words.
You didn't do nearly enough work to convince me that her intent was to dehumanize nano. Your paraphrasing of her words may seem like enough in your mind, but it says something different to me. You need to connect the dots. You also need to provide unaltered quotes or links if you want to be taken seriously.

Do you want to move the goalpost from "dehumanize" to "insult"?

I'm not necessarily defending KittenKoder. I made a conditional defense based on possible intent. I demonstrated how "it" is often used as a personal pronoun and I stated that other personal pronouns are also used to refer to non living things.
Nobody

Irving, TX

#582420 Jan 4, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>SIGH.....LAST time- for not only did I already explain this to you yesterday, this is totally OFF TOPIC and it's all been said already anyway.
1. Bacteria is ALIVE.
2. Mold is ALIVE.
3. Mildew is ALIVE.
4. Sperm is ALIVE.
What NONE of them are is A LIFE.
They are LIVING organisms, but none are A LIFE.
A z/e/f is a LIVING organism, but none of them are A LIFE.
A LIFE begins at BIRTH. What comes before that is ALIVE, but is not A LIFE.
NO MORE on this topic from ME.
stupid, you know nothing.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#582421 Jan 4, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
I understand. You're agnostic. You aren't certain whether a god exists or not. Me,either, which is why I call myself an agnostic, too. Can we get past that? There was a second question, and it was this:
Although you do not consider your belief certain, do you believe that the universe was made by the god of the Christian bible or any other god? Some agnostics - agnostics like me - would answer no. We aren't sure, but we don't believe. We are agnostic atheists.
Other agnostics - perhaps you - would say that while they are also unsure, they nevertheless believe. They're agnostic theists.
Agnosticism and gnosticism go to claims of knowledge. Atheism and theism go to claims of belief.
I get it that you're an agnostic. You don't claim to know that your beliefs are certain. But are you also a theist or not? You refuse to say whether you have accepted one of the gods, certain or not.
Since you refuse to answer, we must guess whether unbelief or belief underlies your refusal to directly answer this simple question: Are you a Christian. or do you deny that Jesus died for your sins?
I do. How about you?
He's afraid to say that he doesn't believe, because it might piss god off.

Since: Feb 12

Germany

#582422 Jan 4, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>
You didn't do nearly enough work to convince me that her intent was to dehumanize nano. Your paraphrasing of her words may seem like enough in your mind, but it says something different to me. You need to connect the dots. You also need to provide unaltered quotes or links if you want to be taken seriously.
Do you want to move the goalpost from "dehumanize" to "insult"?
I'm not necessarily defending KittenKoder. I made a conditional defense based on possible intent. I demonstrated how "it" is often used as a personal pronoun and I stated that other personal pronouns are also used to refer to non living things.
In actuality I don't need to do anything. You did not see the original post, or the reply so you are jumping to er defense with no substantiating evidence.
I am not going back and try to find her exact post. I know what she said, Nano knows what she said, if you agree or not is of little concern to me.
As I said try refering to someone as an IT and se the response you get.
As to moving goalposts I never set any goalposts so why would I want to move something?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#582423 Jan 4, 2013
wilderide wrote:
<quoted text>
OK, a cat who can use the toilet is alot more tempting than one who cannot. But we travel alot, and it would not be fair to Waldorf to leave him alone or with sitters all the time. And he is still going to knock stuff over. That is a cats nature: to bat at whatever you treasure most. ;)
And shred your favorite chair.

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#582424 Jan 4, 2013
"Bring them in before they freeze."

What am I talking about?

If I'm talking about children, isn't that dehumanizing? I could be talking about non living things here.

Since: Feb 12

Germany

#582425 Jan 4, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
He's afraid to say that he doesn't believe, because it might piss god off.
How about this, BITE ME PUNK!

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#582426 Jan 4, 2013
Freebird USA wrote:
<quoted text>
He's only threatening you if you're a "music lover".
Uh oh.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#582427 Jan 4, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
Have you noticed that he's using almost diametrically opposed arguments in his weapon and abortion arguments?
A fetus is a person, but an assault weapon is only a POTENTIAL weapon.
I think he's just shooting himself in the foot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =am-Qdx6vky0XX
Hysterical YouTube.

Typically conservatives have wanted drug use and abortion criminalized, but gun ownership unregulated. So they use one set of arguments for the first two, and the exact opposite for the other. When they want the government to let them have their guns, they get all "Don't Tread On Me." But they want that same government to prevent gay marriage and abortion.

Or we hear that "People kill people, not guns," but "Crack kills" and to leave their guns alone, but escalate the War on Drugs. I believe that it was RiversideRednecks that thinks that the prisons are too cushy.

He was also the one that trotted out the principle that America need to go depose foreign dictators and bring democracy people suppressed by tyrants, but apparently only in Iraq.

This is why I refer to pseudoprinciples. An authentic principle applies in every case where it can, and prevails unless contradicted by a higher principle. Thus, telling the truth can be a principle in the sense that one always does it except when it would be unkind to do so, for example. The principle of kindness trumps honesty, as in the old chestnut that it is moral to lie to the Nazis at the door that you don't have fugitives hiding in your basement. But otherwise, one is always honest if one lives by honesty as a principle.

A pseudoprinciple is something that doesn't actually mean squat to you - like bringing democracy to distant hellholes at great cost - but you think that it might to somebody that you are trying to persuade, so you trot it out and blow the dust off of it for the occasion, as when justifying Bush's decision to invade Iraq.

We saw that again when another poster emphatically alerted us that prohibition leads to black markets because he doesn't want to see a prohibition on his guns. But the same poster seemed to support a prohibition on abortion, where black markets meant back alley butcher shops that often killed women with sepsis or hemorrhaging. No problem.

That poster doesn't care about black markets. He wants his guns. He's just hoping you'll let him have his guns, and offering arguments that he wouldn't accept if applied to issues that he feels oppositely about, as with abortion prohibition.

Since: Jan 11

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#582428 Jan 4, 2013
UR BS wrote:
In actuality I don't need to do anything.
At least you're getting in some typing practice.
UR BS wrote:
You did not see the original post, or the reply so you are jumping to er defense with no substantiating evidence.
How do you know what I saw? Are you going to answer that?

I also just told you that my defense is of a position, and it is conditional.

For the record, I did see those posts. I just don't have perfect memory, and don't pretend to have it.
UR BS wrote:
I am not going back and try to find her exact post. I know what she said, Nano knows what she said, if you agree or not is of little concern to me.
What is your concern then?
UR BS wrote:
As I said try refering to someone as an IT and se the response you get.
I don't care what the response is. The response is voluntary, variable, and irrelevant.
UR BS wrote:
As to moving goalposts I never set any goalposts so why would I want to move something?
To make your argument easier.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#582429 Jan 4, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Here's an oldie but goodie:
Two campers are walking through the forest when they suddenly encounter a grizzly bear. The bear rears up on his hind legs and lets out a terrifying roar. Both campers are frozen in their tracks. The first camper whispers, "I'm sure glad I wore my running shoes today."
"It doesn't matter what kind of shoes you're wearing, you're not gonna outrun that bear," replies the second.
"I don't have to outrun the bear," the first man answers. "I just have to outrun YOU."
I'm a bomb technician.

If you see me running, try to keep up.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#582430 Jan 4, 2013
UR BS wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes she did that was a large part of our argument that she somehow along with IANS don't seem to see anything wrong with it while I look at it as being ultra insulting and a demonstartion of no class.
Like calling somebody a fudgeugly tranny?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#582431 Jan 4, 2013
wilderide wrote:
I prefer "Prickles". Seems to me there was a time when she wasn't such a miserable hag.
Maybe. I used to treat her better and feel better about her, but I can't tell if that's because she changed, or because it took me that long to appreciate the degree of her misanthropy. I don't see any effort at all on her part to be liked or likeable, or to make another person happy. Can that be? If so, I can't relate at all. And that's why I call her not fully human. Sure, she probably has 23 pairs of human chromosomes. But they can't all be working.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#582432 Jan 4, 2013
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>Now I am seriously disappointed in your deductive reasoning skills.
The M-16 rifle was adapted for semi-automatic, three-round burst, and full-automatic fire. An AR-15 is semi-auto only. Which doesn't even matter when the AR-15 was not found in the school. Which means that it was not used in the shooting. The shooter did not leave the school put the assault rifle away and then go back in side to shoot himself.
http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/defensive...

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#582433 Jan 4, 2013
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>Why would I want someone I despise to like me?
You misspelled "unlikable", you nitwit.
Spell check of unlikeable

Correct spelling: unlikeable

Other synonyms:
disagreeable, unsympathetic, unappealing, disliked, unkindly, unlikable, closed.
Examples of usage:
1) The weight of evidence justifies the belief that Bligh, though a sailor of unequivocal skill and dauntless courage, was an unlikeable man, and that aversion to service under him was a factor contributing to the mutiny which cannot be explained away.- "The Life of Captain Matthew Flinders", Ernest Scott.

Nitwit^2

“e pluribus unum”

Since: Dec 10

primus inter pares

#582434 Jan 4, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
I was asking Ar Ar.
He seems to think that "defeat armor" doesn't mean killing the occupant of said armor.
And the context here was concerning primarily the invention of the gun and its stated purpose being to defeat the armor of the day.
But feel free to help him out.
The fact remains if you really want to stop people from getting killed by guns then stop fighting wars. Stop making guns and quit sending troops to the middle east and stop drone attacks How likely is that?

“e pluribus unum”

Since: Dec 10

primus inter pares

#582435 Jan 4, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
Each of who?
And are you offering me a gun or threatening me?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#582436 Jan 4, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Yeah the Marine rifle company's are renowned for inflicting casualties with their rifles. Are you somehow comparing their creed to the guy who hunts deer for food?
Yes. She said that guns were made for killing. Somebody said the Chinese invented them to kill armored warriors. They have now found their way into other arenas where killing is popular - hunting and murder, for example. Why? Because they can kill, which is why most gun owners have them as well.

Sure, you can use them in other ways besides killing. You can rob a bank. But they only work because they can kill.

Or, you can maintain the peace like a sheriff or cop. But they only work because they can kill.

Even at shooting ranges, where people learn to hit their intended targets better, that target is often a man shaped silhouette with a target on the chest. Here's one in a hoodie:
http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/wp-content/u...

So what are guns for?

Since: Feb 12

Germany

#582437 Jan 4, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>
At least you're getting in some typing practice.
<quoted text>
How do you know what I saw? Are you going to answer that?
I also just told you that my defense is of a position, and it is conditional.
For the record, I did see those posts. I just don't have perfect memory, and don't pretend to have it.
<quoted text>
What is your concern then?
<quoted text>
I don't care what the response is. The response is voluntary, variable, and irrelevant.
<quoted text>
To make your argument easier.
Don't care about the typing practice.
You keep making statements about the post and if you had seen it then you would know the context and the intention.
Perfect memory is not required.
I don't have a concern. You seem to have one in that you are defending her comment. I addressed her directly and told her that I felt the comment was below her. You see even though we almost always disagree ahe would normally not stoop to those levels.
The response is not irrelevent. You are contending that calling someone an, "IT" is neutral and is just fine. I am saying if that is true then call some one an IT and see what response you get. The response is everything.

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