Prove there's a god.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#582226 Jan 3, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>80% of which you spend on Topix and often including holidays when you are here pretty much the whole day long.
The "whole day", being my work shift.....

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#582227 Jan 3, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Sure, show it.
Put up or shut up you marine drop-out.
Unlike you who blabbered some nonsense about wanting to enlist in the army but you couldn't because of circumstances with the army which were out of your control.

That was one of your biggest BS posts to date.

So don't find fault with someone who DID serve- you couldn't even manage to get both of your feet in the door.

You just threw up your hands over whatever the supposed snafu was and you were DONE with it- you're quite the quitter, aren't you?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#582228 Jan 3, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, I've got my beer.... I'm good :)
And your guns.

Great combination.

Guns, booze and stupid.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#582229 Jan 3, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Police are instructed to shoot to kill?!?
You've got it backwards, my dear.
Not surprising.
Uh, no....I do NOT have it backwards. Police are trained to shoot to kill and are instructed to do so when there is no other recourse.

What do you think: Stop or I'll shoot!(said by a cop) means?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#582230 Jan 3, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
So tell us, oh great swampy.
What DOES "to defeat armor" mean?
To penetrate it. To stop the enemies advance, sometimes killing the enemy.

I know you think it means "to kill".

So tell me, why are so many more soldiers wounded rather than killed?

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#582231 Jan 3, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
No, you're wrong. I don't see guns as "manly" and have never referred to them as such. You have and you do.
Of course I can live a good life without a gun, what a stupid question. I CHOOSE to have guns, I don't need them, though.
I'm not afraid to die. I never said that and never implied it. I'm not afraid if my wife & kids due, either. What I don't want is pain, pain that an intruder could do if we weren't ready to defend ourselves.
No- I do NOT see guns as manly and would never have dated any man who owned a gun- never mind MARRIED one. It's a total turn-off and about as UNmanly as one can be IMO.

If you don't NEED guns then why have them? No matter how balanced you think your kids are, your wife is or YOU are- having guns presents a RISK- period.

And yes- you DO think you need them- you've posted here that your home is safer with guns than a home without them.

Good- so if someone breaks into your house in the middle of the night and catches you by surprise out of a sound sleep, how is your GUN going to protect you unless you SLEEP with it right by your bedside or under your pillow?

Gonna ask the intruders to wait a minute so that you can go to your gun safe, turn the combination, open it up and THEN aim it at the intruder?

And if your guns are anywhere BUT in a safe which is kept locked at ALL times, you being a gun owner is posing a threat not only to yourself, but to your wife and your children.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#582232 Jan 3, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
To penetrate it. To stop the enemies advance, sometimes killing the enemy.
I know you think it means "to kill".
So tell me, why are so many more soldiers wounded rather than killed?
Sigh....because they are TRAINED to wound as well as to kill if killing is there only recourse.

Just like police officers.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#582233 Jan 3, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Nice try.
You can't prove that guns are made to kill, you can only say it.
And your word is shit, so......
Even uses one of your own quotes.

http://www.blurtit.com/q993394.html

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#582234 Jan 3, 2013
"is *their" only recourse.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#582235 Jan 3, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Nice try.
You can't prove that guns are made to kill, you can only say it.
And your word is shit, so......
You seem to know what they WEREN'T designed for.

How about filling us in, then, on what they WERE designed for.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#582236 Jan 3, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, I've got my beer.... I'm good :)
Are you good without your beer or does it take your beer in order for you to say "I'm good"?

Are you saying you need to ingest drugs (and alcohol IS a drug) in order for you to be able to say: "I'm good"?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#582237 Jan 3, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Police are instructed to shoot to kill?!?
You've got it backwards, my dear.
Not surprising.
Really?

Back that up.

Do you think they are trained to shoot to wound?

If you do, you're an idiot.

But we already knew that.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#582238 Jan 3, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
To penetrate it. To stop the enemies advance, sometimes killing the enemy.
I know you think it means "to kill".
So tell me, why are so many more soldiers wounded rather than killed?
So you think that if they kill an enemy in armor, they stop and say "oops. Sorry". If a shot doesn't kill them, what do you think they'll do. Say "Ow. That hurt. I'm going home."

They're just going to be more pissed and you're going to be out of ammo, you dumbphuque. Do you have any idea how long it takes to reload one of those hand cannons?

So many are wounded because when you're getting shot at, you don't have a lot of freaking time to aim.

I keep telling myself that nobody can possibly be this stupid, but you keep proving me wrong.

You are an amazing human being.

Do you walk upright?

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#582239 Jan 3, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
Really?
Back that up.
Do you think they are trained to shoot to wound?
If you do, you're an idiot.
But we already knew that.
RR sure IS an idiot. While I imagine many police officers and military personnel do try to wound instead of kill and are instructed to only wound if at all possible, that doesn't change the fact that they are first and foremost trained to KILL and especially when they have judged that there is no other recourse.

That is part and parcel of being TRAINED to use a gun and that type of training is essentially only found in law enforcement and the military.

And I am sure that if RR ever felt he had to use one of his guns he would not only shoot to kill, but would shoot first and ask questions later.

He claims his guns aren't a threat to his kids; well, unless he keeps them at his side while at home at all times they are no threat to any would be intruders either; if he does keep his guns close to him at home at all times, his guns pose a much greater threat to him and his loved ones than they do to any intruder.

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#582240 Jan 3, 2013
UR BS wrote:
By denying the existance of a god you remove the agnostic. There is a difference between saying that there is no proof and that it is impossible to know and making an afirmation that they do not exist.
I provided the definition I don't know what more I can do if you are too dense to understand it.
Likewise if a person believes in a god then they are not agnostic.
Atheist/theist and agnostic/gnostic answer different questions.

Do you believe in any gods? No = Atheist, Yes = Theist

If you do not, do you think you can know there are definitely no gods? No = Agnostic atheist, Yes = Gnostic atheist

If you do, do you think the god(s) you believe in definitely exist? No = Agnostic theist, Yes = Gnostic theist

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#582241 Jan 3, 2013
Interesting link with some stats on children killed by guns:

http://www.childrensdefense.org/child-researc...

I haven't read it all yet.

“Seventh son”

Since: Dec 10

Will Prevail

#582242 Jan 3, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
So tell us, oh great swampy.
What DOES "to defeat armor" mean?
Light armor piercing or high heat thermite, or super kinetic depleted uranium rounds. If these wont work we can move the scale up
to meet the need . But why do you ask? Give me the criteria of demand and I shall exceed in improvise adapt and overcome.

“Seventh son”

Since: Dec 10

Will Prevail

#582243 Jan 3, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
And your guns.
Great combination.
Guns, booze and stupid.
I have two guns , one for each of you.

“Seventh son”

Since: Dec 10

Will Prevail

#582244 Jan 3, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>Uh, no....I do NOT have it backwards. Police are trained to shoot to kill and are instructed to do so when there is no other recourse.
What do you think: Stop or I'll shoot!(said by a cop) means?
That you are correct but you didn't explain the Weaver, Wilson,Isosceles and shoot from the hip philosophies and the pros and cons of each with an explanation of the strong and weak points of each.
As a West Point Student you should have all these methods in your repertoire. As well as skilled with a sabre and the will of a soldier.

Since: Jan 11

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#582245 Jan 3, 2013
UR BS wrote:
Do you have a comprehension problem?
I believe in no Gods but I do not deny that they could exist.
I admit that I do not know if there are such things.
That is waht an agnostic is.
If you say that gods do not exist you are an atheist, if you say that some or all of the Gods exist you are a theist.
Dang would you get someone that can read to tell you what is written.
An atheist is exactly, not a theist.

A theist believes in at least one god, an atheist does not.

An agnostic says that it may not be possible to be certain about the existence of gods. That position does not tell you whether they believe in them or not.

Most atheists are also agnostic. Most theists, on Sunday morning in church, are gnostic. I think they go from agnostic to gnostic depending on circumstances. I've convinced theists to adopt an agnostic position, only to revert to a gnostic position when their conditioning kicks in.

Some are gnostic or agnostic all the time. We have several gnostic theists in this thread. I haven't seen them accept the faulty nature of claiming absolute knowledge. Other theists in this thread have accepted the faulty nature of such claims. That's all it takes to be agnostic. "Strong faith" is synonymous with gnosticism. Brainwashing or conditioning makes it possible for people to think they can know absolutely for sure about something.

Agnosticism is a position of uncertainty. It has no direction.

If you don't believe in any gods, by the definition most atheists here use, you are an atheist.

Are you really a Christian?

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