OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#581812 Jan 3, 2013
UR BS wrote:
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Who said anything about the SCOTUS?
Look up the law. It is real easy and I have already provoded the link, the wording and more.
Type in Child in Utero into a search engine and you will have no problem finding it.
You IDIOT. Because it is SCOTUS which upholds the legal right to abortion.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#581813 Jan 3, 2013
UR BS wrote:
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What part of LUNAR NEW YEAR are you too stupid to understand?
It is tradition that is the way it is. You want to find out more move to china.
Dang you are a total dolt!
And listen, TROLL:

You won't answer simple questions asking you what YOU personally do for even ONE unwanted and unloved baby or child, you won't provide links or sources for what you claim is fact....

You're a STUPID troll.

Since: Feb 12

Kaiserslautern, Germany

#581814 Jan 3, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. is a woman without children still a mother after a spontaneous abortion ??..
.. you might consider coming out of the closet ..
Is a woman a mother if her kid gets run over by a car and killed?
You might consider pulling your head out of your backside.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#581815 Jan 3, 2013
UR BS wrote:
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Federal Law in the USA.
I have already posted the Law and the link to it so look it up yourself.
Here is a hint type in, Child In utero Law. You will find it.
Interesting.....

Homocide - Feticide.

huh

A law that allows criminals charges to be placed for murdering a fetus ...

But these idiots say that a fetus isn't a life, isn't a human.....

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#581816 Jan 3, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>Sigh....I meant knock it off with the folksy "mama" and "papa" crap- can't you READ???
Sorry- an acorn is NOT a non-life!! LOL!! An acorn is ALIVE, you dolt.
And no.....plant an acorn and if the conditions are right, it will become an oak tree, but it has a long way to go before that happens.
Plant a seed within a woman and if the conditions are right, it will become a person, but it has a long way to go before that happens.
RR, how you can claim to be pro-choice when you are SO ignorant of the most basic of biology is really something.
Ok, would you prefer:

When your father deposited sperm in your mother's sperm depository YOU became a life.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#581817 Jan 3, 2013
UR BS wrote:
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Probably in the neighborhood of around 60 or 70 can't say for sure.
What is your point?
Oh you LIAR. Why would you have PERSONALLY seen 60 or 70 birth certificates?

SHOW me a site or a link or a source which states that birth certificates in the far east show a different date of birth than the date the baby is actually born.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

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#581818 Jan 3, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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I doubt it. A fetus is a concrete object. A behavior is an abstract process, like nailbiting
<quoted text>
I don't see the distinction. Would you say that somebody isn't a bed wetter, that they're in a bed wetting state of their development?
<quoted text>
Then what you're saying is that the parasitism - or the parasitical stage - is necessary and justified, not that it isn't parasitism.
<quoted text>
You're confusing objects and processes again. The object is a chunk of diploid human tissue somewhere between a zygote and a third trimester fetus. Its formation, growth, development and birth are procreation.
Parasites do not turn into humans IANS you can never justify that medically or scientifically.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#581819 Jan 3, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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An acorn is a seed, it contains living cells, therefore it is life.
Just like a zygote.....

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#581820 Jan 3, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>Oh my. She is pregnant with either a human zygote, a human embryo or a human fetus. She is NOT pregnant with a BABY.
Yep- as I already SAID, most women who WANT to be pregnant and who WANT to have a baby will SUBJECTIVELY refer to her z/e/f as such.
That does NOT make it a biological or medical fact.
No....I am sure that if one was having a purely medical, scientific and biological discussion with a doctor, the doctor would certainly state that biologically, scientifically and medically speaking, the z/e/f is indeed a parasite.
Why DO you have such a problem with the word "parasite"? We are ALL parasites- sucking on the teat of the planet.
Oh ya, we see it all the time....

A pregnant woman proudly rubs her belly and says "Oh, my fetus just kicked!"

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#581821 Jan 3, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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OMG.....
So stupid.
That's like saying a baby isn't a human.
Not at all. Of course a baby is human provided it was BORN to a human. Just as a z/e/f is human provided it is within the body of a human.

And an acorn is still a seed despite it not being an oak tree.

Just as an acorn has the POTENTIAL to develop into an oak tree under the right conditions, a z/e/f has the POTENTIAL to develop into a baby under the right conditions.

NOWHERE did I say or at all even IMPLY that a BABY (born to a human) isn't HUMAN.

You are SUCH an IDIOT.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#581822 Jan 3, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Me, too, which is why I describe a fetus as a parasitic life form based on the organism's relationship to its host, and not on whether or not I find the word demeaning to the organism.
Aura Mytha wrote:
Now you are calling all humans parasites. "sigh"
Did I? I missed that.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#581823 Jan 3, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Ok, would you prefer:
When your father deposited sperm in your mother's sperm depository YOU became a life.
I became ALIVE. My LIFE didn't start until my birth.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

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#581824 Jan 3, 2013
The baby IS the benefit.
karl44 wrote:
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only when it is wanted.
Only if you think the TOE is correct.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#581826 Jan 3, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Interesting.....
Homocide - Feticide.
huh
A law that allows criminals charges to be placed for murdering a fetus ...
But these idiots say that a fetus isn't a life, isn't a human.....
NO ONE here has said a fetus isn't HUMAN (provided it is within the body of a HUMAN).

You can't grasp the difference between that which is ALIVE and that which is A LIFE, so I certainly don't expect you to grasp the difference between that which is HUMAN and that which is a PERSON.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#581827 Jan 3, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Nice , but none of seem very scientific , I guess they want to be pleasant.
I will note you called it scientific , and quote it here......
Week Ten: Embryo is now a Fetus
You are 10 weeks pregnant.(eight weeks after conception)
From this week until birth, the developing organism is called a fetus.
The fetus is now the size of a small strawberry.
The feet are 2mm long (one tenth of an inch).
The neck is beginning to take shape.
The body muscles are almost developed. Baby has begun movement.
WHAT? FULL STOP! 10 weeks...
Baby has begun movement.
Involuntary movement is often the result of cell repair, or growth, of the musculatory cells. So such an event provides no evidence of individuality. The brain is still not developed.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#581828 Jan 3, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Plinking cans and bottles is murder.
Then I should get like 500 life sentences....

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#581829 Jan 3, 2013
UR BS wrote:
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Is a woman a mother if her kid gets run over by a car and killed?
You might consider pulling your head out of your backside.
No, STUPID. If a mother's child is killed, that woman is no longer a mother assuming she has no other children.

She is a FORMER mother.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#581830 Jan 3, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Just like a zygote.....
Yes, and neither is in individual, that is why an acorn is not considered an oak, and a fetus is not considered a human.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#581831 Jan 3, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Oh ya, we see it all the time....
A pregnant woman proudly rubs her belly and says "Oh, my fetus just kicked!"
Sigh.....I stated at least twice already that for most women who WANT to have a baby, they will refer to their z/e/f as such.

That is an EMOTIONAL choice and not one based on biology, science or medicine.

In other words, she subjectively chooses to refer to her z/e/f as a BABY.

That doesn't make it FACTUALLY correct.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#581832 Jan 3, 2013
With all the ad homs and fallacies from the anti-choice side, it's hard to even consider your opinion on the subject valid. Appeals to emotion, special pleading, and even a few ambiguity fallacies.

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