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#581828 Jan 3, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Plinking cans and bottles is murder.
Then I should get like 500 life sentences....

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#581829 Jan 3, 2013
UR BS wrote:
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Is a woman a mother if her kid gets run over by a car and killed?
You might consider pulling your head out of your backside.
No, STUPID. If a mother's child is killed, that woman is no longer a mother assuming she has no other children.

She is a FORMER mother.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#581830 Jan 3, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Just like a zygote.....
Yes, and neither is in individual, that is why an acorn is not considered an oak, and a fetus is not considered a human.

OCB

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Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#581831 Jan 3, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Oh ya, we see it all the time....
A pregnant woman proudly rubs her belly and says "Oh, my fetus just kicked!"
Sigh.....I stated at least twice already that for most women who WANT to have a baby, they will refer to their z/e/f as such.

That is an EMOTIONAL choice and not one based on biology, science or medicine.

In other words, she subjectively chooses to refer to her z/e/f as a BABY.

That doesn't make it FACTUALLY correct.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#581832 Jan 3, 2013
With all the ad homs and fallacies from the anti-choice side, it's hard to even consider your opinion on the subject valid. Appeals to emotion, special pleading, and even a few ambiguity fallacies.

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Since: Dec 10

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#581833 Jan 3, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>Don't you mean go make you some chicken?
I mean- if you consider a z/e/f to be a baby, then "LOGICALLY" speaking, not only would an ACORN be an OAK TREE, but an EGG would be a CHICKEN.
Of course, nothing at ALL logical about referring to an acorn as an oak tree or an egg as a chicken- just as there is nothing logical about referring to a zygote, embryo or fetus as a BABY.

If the acorn has germinated it is a developing tree
or the egg fertilized yes a developing chicken.
But those require that they be to be in the same context as
a z/e/f which already is a developing baby.

Because z/e/f doesn't exist until after fertilization.

OCB

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Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#581834 Jan 3, 2013
UR BS wrote:
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I notice you haven't listed anything either so I guess you are just full of BS and an outright liar.
By the way you mentioned animal shelters which goes a long way to explaining your disdane for human life.
You didn't ASK me to list anything, did you?

And I am NOT the one who would like women to be denied reproductive choices- YOU are!

YOU are the one who wants every single baby born; therefore, the onus is on YOU to do SOMETHING for at least ONE of those babies born unwanted and unloved by the very person who gave birth to them.

LIAR. I did NOT mention ANYTHING about animal shelters. You're confusing me with someone else, you addle-brained TWIT.

And the word is "disdain"- like YOU have for women who wish to terminate their pregnancies.

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#581835 Jan 3, 2013
karl44 wrote:
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it is not a benefit to the individual who is pregnant.
the zef meets the definition of parasite.
If you need disagree, try to look less stupid

Only to an idiot like you.

OCB

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Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#581836 Jan 3, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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If the acorn has germinated it is a developing tree
or the egg fertilized yes a developing chicken.
But those require that they be to be in the same context as
a z/e/f which already is a developing baby.
Because z/e/f doesn't exist until after fertilization.
"DEVELOPING"- You said it yourself.

A developing tree from a germinated acorn is still NOT a tree.

A developing chicken from a fertilized egg is still NOT a chicken.

A developing z/e/f is still NOT a baby.

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Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#581837 Jan 3, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> I don't but it doesn't reflect the embryo , lets put in a scientifically and correctly worded statement.
A parasite is a specific type of organisms , a fetus is not listed as such. In ANY reference, though we can identify traits that are synonymous with other organisms to describe something. There is clearly a distinction between them , and this is where word meanings literally MEAN EVERYTHING!
Correctly stated it would be ..
A zygote/embryo/fetus goes through a parasitical phase in the early developing stages during the human reproduction process .
You cannot define a fetus a parasite, or you are in fact calling humans parasites. Parasites do not turn into human beings, that's worse than preaching creationism.
Now google that and see what you find.
.. fair enough ..

.. then, why does the medical and scientific community consider a zygote/embryo/fetus a parasite? Why not call it a baby ??..

.. biologically, isn't the categorization of parasite based on its behavior as is relates to its host ??..

.. a zygote invades a woman's uterus, hijacks her immune system and usually causes pain in the form of morning sickness, backaches and much more. When a woman's health is threatened, I think the body's natural defense system kicks in resulting in a spontaneous abortion ..

.. ultimately, during the parasitical phase, wouldn't a zygote/embryo/fetus be considered a parasite ??..

OCB

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Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#581838 Jan 3, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Yes, and neither is in individual, that is why an acorn is not considered an oak, and a fetus is not considered a human.
Not true, Kitten. A fetus within the body of a human IS human- that can't be disputed.

I think you may have meant to say that a fetus is not considered a PERSON and that would be correct, but of course it IS human.

But as I'm sure you know, something can be human while not yet being a PERSON.

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#581839 Jan 3, 2013
karl44 wrote:
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do you think it will exceed the negative correlation of gun-ownership and IQ


Well you will have to put the entire armed forces in a lower IQ bracket than some creationists and retards to qualify that.

I think not.

I think it's massively stupid to live in this world without protection, but it must be respected and kept safe or it's a liability.

I'll leave you libatards to protect yourselves with daisy's and
picket signs agains't the wolves.

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#581840 Jan 3, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>Oh- and when you lived in the far east, you saw just how many birth certificates of babies???
Not until the embryo leaves fall off before then it's a seedling.

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#581841 Jan 3, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>Oh my. She is pregnant with either a human zygote, a human embryo or a human fetus. She is NOT pregnant with a BABY.
Yep- as I already SAID, most women who WANT to be pregnant and who WANT to have a baby will SUBJECTIVELY refer to her z/e/f as such.
That does NOT make it a biological or medical fact.
No....I am sure that if one was having a purely medical, scientific and biological discussion with a doctor, the doctor would certainly state that biologically, scientifically and medically speaking, the z/e/f is indeed a parasite.
Why DO you have such a problem with the word "parasite"? We are ALL parasites- sucking on the teat of the planet.
You have a dim and morbid look of the world, that's sad.

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#581842 Jan 3, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Do you know what a pseudoprinciple is? It's a principle that doesn't actually mean anything to you as stated, but which you cart out when it might support a position that you hold on emotional grounds.
The way to tell is to identify another issue where the principle would also apply were it a sincerely a principle held. For example,how about freedom for slaves. It wasn't originally a choice. But darn ol' SCOTUS injected itself in the decision, So reinstating slavery would not actually be removing the choice to be free as much as restoring the sanctity of private property.
These are your "principles" at play again.I'll bet you a dollar that you reject it all. And that's what makes them pseudoprinciples.
You are twisting things here , but you do that alot.
There are no slaves today, people do not own people anymore.
It was the control that made it possible , ending slavery was in effect ending control over people.

We don't want no more stinking control!

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#581843 Jan 3, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I'm not anti-abortion.
I'm pro-choice.
I'm just more logical than you & I realize what is and what is not a life.
Your choice?

When you actually realise what you have just said you can claim logic

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

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#581844 Jan 3, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Because OCB says so?
Because itís fact you moron

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#581845 Jan 3, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Involuntary movement is often the result of cell repair, or growth, of the musculatory cells. So such an event provides no evidence of individuality. The brain is still not developed.

But they said baby , sorry it isn't a baby some of you say.
It's a parasite, oh my parasite is moving! She exclaimed!

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#581846 Jan 3, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Then I should get like 500 life sentences....
I plead the fifth. lol

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

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#581847 Jan 3, 2013
karl44 wrote:
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he might be one of the brightest in his church.
This is a possibility but doubtful

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