“Ditat Deus”

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#581921 Jan 3, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>For the intended purpose of KILLING.
Then most gun owners misuse their guns all the time......

Stupid.

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#581922 Jan 3, 2013
JOEL wrote:
I want to convert to Christianity? What should I do?
(smiles)
lobotomy

“Ditat Deus”

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#581923 Jan 3, 2013
Huh wrote:
<quoted text>Yes. To kill. Glad we cleared that up.
I didn't know bottles & cans could die....

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

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#581924 Jan 3, 2013
UR BS wrote:
Pretty straight forward. This is the Law and it says CHILD.
"In the U.S., the Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004 recognizes an unborn child as a legal victim, if s/he is injured or killed during the commission of any of over 60 listed federal crimes of violence. Pursuant to 18 USCS 1841, the term "unborn child" means a child in utero, and the term "child in utero" or "child, who is in utero" means a member of the species homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb."
Notice, "Unborn Child", "Child in Utero", "Child who is in Utero".
Now last time I checked if you were in Utero you were not born yet but somehow the Federal Government has recognized these as "Children", not Fetuses, Zygots or any other name.
So what?

That is for the purpose of defining what the language in the legislation means to the legislators. They are letting you know that when the write "unborn child" that they mean "fetus." They could have written the same law calling fetuses "fetuses."

They could also define a cocker spaniel as a child in another piece of legislation, and then you would know that wherever the law referred to a "child," that cocker spaniels were included.

Remember, the Thirteenth Amendment called black people 3/5ths of a person for a specific legal purpose. It didn't make it true biologically.

And the law you cited doesn't make a fetus a child, born or unborn. Children are terrestrial animals that breath air. A fetus is a marine organism. Children don't survive without air, which is why they do so poorly in abandoned refrigerators.

“Ditat Deus”

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#581925 Jan 3, 2013
karl44 wrote:
what is your plan to protect the lives of the innocent from unwanted exposure to the guns you and your fellow hobbyists hold
What is your plan to protect the lives of the innocent from unwanted exposure of the anti-rights position you and your fellow liberals hold?

“ Knight Of Hyrule”

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#581926 Jan 3, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>No- YOU get it straight. Do some research on factory farming- the animals we feed on- and then tell me we are "helping" them.
And we're "helping" the environment? If you mean we are now at this late date trying to repair some of the devastating damage we have caused to the environment, okay.
That's like saying we helped to rebuild Iraq after we destroyed it.
And yes- ALL living organisms on this planet ARE parasites.
As far as human being predators, true enough we are, but only due to man made weaponry.
Standing on our own, we do not stand a chance against non-human predators.
You offer opinion , I offer definition as seen in science. I mean since everything is a parasite we need no other names to call things. BTW a parasite is a form of symbiont.
In a respect we and all life are symbiont to Earth yes but parasitical no.

Since: Feb 12

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#581927 Jan 3, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> It was covered in the 14th amendment.
Agreed but that is not a SCOTUS decision as he put forth.

Since: Feb 12

Kaiserslautern, Germany

#581928 Jan 3, 2013
Huh wrote:
<quoted text>Oh my, I remember when America was America and Americans wrote in English. Get the behind me, immigrant. Love America and write in English or GTFU you Commie, anti-American bastard!
Learn to read.

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#581929 Jan 3, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Cars kill people, not the drivers.
You just stuck your foot in your mouth - AGAIN.

How many cars parked at a car dealership kill people per year? Answer: 0

How many cars DRIVEN on the road kill people per year? Answer: 40,000

Oh look, I guess cars are a tool just like guns are a tool.

Still trying to figure out a way to use toothpaste without any human intervention RR?

“ Knight Of Hyrule”

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#581930 Jan 3, 2013
Huh wrote:
<quoted text>You don't have teeth? Figures.
Sure I have teeth, just not really big and scary ones .
So I bought a katana , Now I have a real tooth!

“ Knight Of Hyrule”

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#581931 Jan 3, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>Agreed- we use our brains to make weapons. Therefore, we are not natural predators in the way that non-human predators are.
We rely on outside sources to be predators. We can't do it on our own.
Lions and tigers (among many other non-human animals) can and do.
Oh we do it on our own, and if not we can call friends to help!

Since: Feb 12

Kaiserslautern, Germany

#581932 Jan 3, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm rather busy, but will jump in here for a moment.
Read carefully the California murder statute (Penal Code section 187). Good for discussion:
(a) Murder is the unlawful killing of a human being, or a
fetus, with malice aforethought.
(b) This section shall not apply to any person who commits an act that results in the death of a fetus if any of the following apply:
(1) The act complied with the Therapeutic Abortion Act, Article 2 (commencing with Section 123400) of Chapter 2 of Part 2 of Division 106 of the Health and Safety Code.
(2) The act was committed by a holder of a physician's and surgeon's certificate, as defined in the Business and Professions Code, in a case where, to a medical certainty, the result of childbirth would be death of the mother of the fetus or where her death from childbirth, although not medically certain, would be substantially certain or more likely than not.
(3) The act was solicited, aided, abetted, or consented to by the mother of the fetus.
And your point is?
Notice I referenced the Federal Law not some State as well.

“ Knight Of Hyrule”

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#581933 Jan 3, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, a seed is fertilized BEFORE it hardens. Fruit is a fertilized flower, the fertilization produces the seeds. The flower is more akin to the egg, the seed is an embryo. The analogy is apt.
Nope germination has to take place.

Since: Feb 12

Kaiserslautern, Germany

#581934 Jan 3, 2013
karl44 wrote:
<quoted text>
what is your plan to protect the lives of the innocent from unwanted exposure to the guns you and your fellow hobbyists hold
Not needed. Legal responsible gun owners take the needed precautions.

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#581935 Jan 3, 2013
karl44 wrote:
what is your plan to protect the lives of the innocent from unwanted exposure to the guns you and your fellow hobbyists hold

[QUOTE who="RiversideRedneck "]<quoted text>
What is your plan to protect the lives of the innocent from unwanted exposure of the anti-rights position you and your fellow liberals hold?
So in other words RR you have NO plan, does that about sum it up?

So then since you have no plan, then don't get upset when OTHERS find ways to make this country safer. You had your chance and you diid nothing but whine.

“ Knight Of Hyrule”

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#581936 Jan 3, 2013
Huh wrote:
<quoted text>Bullshirt. Columbine had an armed Sheriff. Worked well.
He ran away I said security not coward.

“Ditat Deus”

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#581937 Jan 3, 2013
Huh wrote:
<quoted text>When you edited his post, it showed the weakness of our position. Well played.
No, it showed that the "fallacy" game can be played both ways.

“ Knight Of Hyrule”

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#581938 Jan 3, 2013
Huh wrote:
<quoted text>Billy Bob, y'all's can rent some teefus. Ya know, fee them special occasions like marryin' yer cousin after ya divorce yer sister.
I'm from the big city cuzbro. BTW your sister needs to shave.

OCB

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Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#581939 Jan 3, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Then most gun owners misuse their guns all the time......
Stupid.
What difference does it make? Do you think the parents of those dead children care if MOST gun owners misuse their guns or not?

And as it stands, PLENTY of gun owners DO misuse their guns.

But why should I try to convince you of that when statistics prove how INSANE it is in this country that SO many are victims of someone who wielded a gun?

Why should I try to convince you when statistics prove that in SO many instances, guns are used in the heat of the moment and used in what is a crime of passion (meaning the gun wielder is not thinking clearly)?

You LOVE your guns SO much that you'd probably give up one of your KIDS before you would EVER part with one of your guns.

“Ditat Deus”

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#581940 Jan 3, 2013
Mylan wrote:
<quoted text>You just stuck your foot in your mouth - AGAIN.
How many cars parked at a car dealership kill people per year? Answer: 0
How many cars DRIVEN on the road kill people per year? Answer: 40,000
Oh look, I guess cars are a tool just like guns are a tool.
Still trying to figure out a way to use toothpaste without any human intervention RR?
Dumb ass. Thanks for your help.

How many guns sitting in drawers kill people?

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