Prove there's a god.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#581686 Jan 3, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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It's not about being afraid, it's about being protected...
Having a gun in your home is like having a condom in your wallet or purse. It's better to have one when you need one....
Gee- I never knew that condoms were deadly weapons invented for the sole purpose of killing!
Wloclawek Warrior

Carson, VA

#581687 Jan 3, 2013
Apocalypse666 wrote:
Come on and do it.
Prove there's a god.
Don;t read off scripture or anything like that just prove there's a god.
Look around you!

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#581688 Jan 3, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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According to http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.h... , the murder total in America peaked in 1991 at 24,700,and fell to a modern minimum of 14,612 in 2011. There were 252 million Americans in 1991 compared to 311 million in 2011 making the respective murder rates 9.8 per 100,000 in 1991, and 4.7 per 100,000 in 2011 - less than half.
At the same time, according to the American Religious Identification Survey at http://www.dawahskills.com/skills-tools/ameri... , the total number of adults identifying as Christian fell from 151 million out of 175 million adults (86.2%) in 1990 to 173 million out out of 228 million adults (76.0%) in 2008.
During the same period, "nones" and "no religion" rose from 14 million (8.2%) to 34 million (15.0%)-almost double.
Our numbers doubled, and the murder rate halved. At this rate, I think that we could stand to lose a little more of your god's influence and love, don't you?
You keep telling yourslef that, you might just believe it someday.

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#581689 Jan 3, 2013
Freebird USA wrote:
<quoted text> Not that i'm a contarian but I see you cozying up as it were with particular posters in here who ridicule other posters who use wikipedia as a source. That being said am I justified to ask if there is a double standard lol?Additionally I include ccw in my model not just guns in the home. Thats the problem with statistics.
I don't think your post is about Wikipedia per se, but regarding ridiculing it as a source, though I use it all the time, and I think generally the info is at least a starting place, since I personally have added to Wikipedia pages, and anyone else can do the same thing, assuming the moderators approve the entries, the information is only as good as the person who typed it in.

Since: Feb 12

Germany

#581690 Jan 3, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
In your case the later.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#581691 Jan 3, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
1. Yes it is a baby.
2. No, it's not being murdered - unless abortion is illegal.
3. No, it has no will, but neither does a 2-month old baby...
A two month old does have free will, it's just lacking the intelligence to use it.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#581692 Jan 3, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
You mean because of a crazy man with access to an assault weapon, don't you? Remember, guns don't kill people. People with guns do.
How many such crazy men do you suppose there are in America right now? Thirty-one? Eleven? Fourteen?
How many will have easy access to assault weapons the hour that they crack?
Rephrase your assertion of "guns don't kill people. People with guns do." to "guns don't kill people. People do."

Because that's the facts. One doesn't need a gun to murder.

So what's your solution? Punish all 200 million gun owners because of "31, 11, 14"?

Since: Feb 12

Germany

#581693 Jan 3, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>Again, it makes no difference what verbiage is used by the law.
It is those same law makers who have determined that abortion is- and should be- LEGAL in this country.
Not MY problem if you can't accept that.
And apparently, you do NOT get the point.
Like most anti-choicers, you can't tell me what would be right about women being legally forced to remain pregnant against their will in order to be legally forced to give birth against their will.
So if it makes you feel better to call a zygote, an embryo or a fetus an unborn child, more power to you.
If so, at least don't be a hypocrite and then refer to yourself as an undead corpse.
Seems you're pretty much dead from the neck up, so that makes it even more fitting for you to refer to yourself as an undead corpse.
Disregard all you like but as I have stated the Law is plain.
Now how about you tell me how a person can be chatged with murder for the same actions another person do at will.

As to forcing a woman to carry to term that is out of my hands as the law has been put in place to allow women to kill theis children as long as they do it prior to giving birth and in some cases even that is not enough.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#581694 Jan 3, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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I see the rhetoric from both sides, one tries to make it religious the other to dehumanize the life.
The truth is between them.
It isn't a religious thing but it is a life.
AND Prenatal Baby is a valid term.
But only after at least 12 weeks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =OFno5iOm84AXX
I disagree that Prenatal Baby is a valid term.

No baby until there is a birth.

But- considering that 90% of abortions are performed within the first 12 weeks of pregnancy with the vast majority of those being performed within the first 9 weeks of pregnancy, it makes the point you are trying to make basically moot.

BTW, I have no desire or intent to dehumanize life.

However, those who would like to see abortion become illegal again- and thereby- see women being legally forced to remain pregnant against their will in order to be legally forced to give birth against their will- now THAT would be dehumanizing life- the lives of women who are 100% viable and 100% sentient, which a z/e/f is NOT.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#581695 Jan 3, 2013
UR BS wrote:
<quoted text>
In your case the later.
So you admit to just trolling. Fascinating.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#581696 Jan 3, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Rephrase your assertion of "guns don't kill people. People with guns do." to "guns don't kill people. People do."
Because that's the facts. One doesn't need a gun to murder.
So what's your solution? Punish all 200 million gun owners because of "31, 11, 14"?
But guns are the weapons of choice in the majority of killings.

And- nothing else that is a weapon or that could be used as a weapon has the immediacy of a GUN.

And that is why guns are the weapon of choice in the majority of killings.

It's "easy".

Since: Feb 12

Germany

#581697 Jan 3, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Agnostic can be atheist or theist, there are several theist agnostics on here who do not make the dishonest claim that their beliefs are fact. I believe in no gods, and any assertions to a god existing cannot be made without evidence to back them up, thus ... agnostic atheist. I deny the presented gods as they lack evidence, but do not state anything is outright impossible.
By denying the existance of a god you remove the agnostic. There is a difference between saying that there is no proof and that it is impossible to know and making an afirmation that they do not exist.

I provided the definition I don't know what more I can do if you are too dense to understand it.

Likewise if a person believes in a god then they are not agnostic.
Wloclawek Warrior

Carson, VA

#581698 Jan 3, 2013
You prove there is no GOD. You are alive, GOD gave you the right to your opinion. You trying to influence a saved human is senseless. It would seem prudent that the only ones that would listen to your diatribe would be in doubt their-selves and be sheeple, like you. Where did all this come from. The earth has been here 5 billion years. God only gave us this last 150 years to become a bit smarter. Could it have been there were other civilizations that far outdid this poor excuse for humanity we now live in. Murder and all sorts of crime? Seemingly starting with you. Good Vs. Evil equates to GO(O)D Vs. the (D)EVIL. sound about right to you?

Since: Feb 12

Germany

#581699 Jan 3, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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So you admit to just trolling. Fascinating.
No I simply idenbtified you.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#581700 Jan 3, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
1. Yes it is a baby.
2. No, it's not being murdered - unless abortion is illegal.
3. No, it has no will, but neither does a 2-month old baby...
I wonder why you are so gun crazy and yet so anti abortion

Is it because the life a born human is worth less that the life of a foetus?

Is it because you have wet dreams about being in control of another’s life? Any life? Such godlike behaviour for a christard.

Of is it just yer basic hypocrisy?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#581701 Jan 3, 2013
UR BS wrote:
<quoted text>
By denying the existance of a god you remove the agnostic. There is a difference between saying that there is no proof and that it is impossible to know and making an afirmation that they do not exist.
I provided the definition I don't know what more I can do if you are too dense to understand it.
Likewise if a person believes in a god then they are not agnostic.
So you accept the existence of all gods?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#581702 Jan 3, 2013
UR BS wrote:
<quoted text>
No I simply idenbtified you.
Is English your second language?

“e pluribus unum”

Since: Dec 10

primus inter pares

#581703 Jan 3, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Me, too, which is why I describe a fetus as a parasitic life form based on the organism's relationship to its host, and not on whether or not I find the word demeaning to the organism.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I think you say that so you feel better about killing a human.
It is complete bullshit lets break it down.

"I describe a fetus as a parasitic life form"

Now can he demonstrate using the
INTERNATIONAL CODE OF ZOOLOGICAL NOMENCLATURE
The fetus of a parasitic life form. Here is the link to help him out.

http://www.nhm.ac.uk/hosted-sites/iczn/code/

"based on the organism's relationship to its host"

It is factually the son or daughter of the host.
No evidence can refute that as long as it lives.

"and not on whether or not I find the word demeaning to the organism"

No we will ignore any thought you had expressing derogatory meanings to a developing human organism.
But would like to see you show us the fetus of a parasite that occurs in a pregnant woman in the above link and give us the proper Latin names as well as it's position on the tree of life.

Or will we get crickets again?

Since: Feb 12

Germany

#581704 Jan 3, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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So you accept the existence of all gods?
Do you have a comprehension problem?

I believe in no Gods but I do not deny that they could exist.

I admit that I do not know if there are such things.

That is waht an agnostic is.

If you say that gods do not exist you are an atheist, if you say that some or all of the Gods exist you are a theist.

Dang would you get someone that can read to tell you what is written.

Since: Feb 12

Germany

#581706 Jan 3, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Is English your second language?
I have been waiting for this.

No it is not. I type like crap and make lots of typos and to be perfectly frnk about it no on this or any other thread is worth my time or trouble to proof read the posts.

Besides it gives you and your ilk something to cling to when you have no real argument.

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