Prove there's a god.

[DeAngelo of Memphis]

Did y'all hear what the founder of the Church of Satan said what Satanism is defined as? Satanism holds the same principles as athiesm. Actually Athiesm IS Satanism. The name is just more politically correct, just as the name "New World Order" changed to "globalization". Satan doesn't want people to figure out that they are worshipping his ideals, not until we meet our maker. All of these athiests should read upon the Church of Satan's teachings and then compare them to their own belief system and hopefully they can realize the shit they have gotten themselves into.

[It aint necessarily so]

UR BS wrote:

Well lets see. Based on this and other threads I have been on the ones that are ridiculing people for any type of belief system are the atheists.

I think ridicule is fine, and apparently, I'm in good company:

“Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus." - Thomas Jefferson

How do you feel about marginalization through demonization and dehumanization? Here are a few ancient examples still widely read and taught today:

[1] "The fool says in his heart,'There is no God.' They are corrupt, their deeds are vile; there is no one who does good" - Psalm 14:1

[2] "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone." - Revelation 21:8

That's pretty ugly there - hate speech, even. You say that you're an agnostic, do you? Well, you and I were just called corrupt, vile, abominable, no good, the moral equivalent of a liar, murderer and whoremonger, and fit for eternal torture according to a perfectly just and loving god.

The way I see it, you and I are entitled to a few friendly jabs back, wouldn't you agree?

Thanks for your concern.

[RiversideRedneck]

Karma is a_______ wrote:

<quoted text>
nope its all due to evolution, DUH!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!!!

<cough>

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RiversideRedneck wrote:

Why secede? Just move to Mexic.... Oh, you already did.

You don't miss a thing, do you?

[Mylan]

Catcher1 wrote:

And I have seen people ponder, learn and change their views, or at least soften a bit.

Yes the open minded ones, but the majority are not here to learn or challenge their views. For example; most religious freaks are only here to point their finger at you and tell you that you're going to "go to hell". Fear and guilt was used on them, and they think it will work on you too. Common sense and logic to them is as invisible as the wind is to other people. In the end people just end up becoming polarized and frustrated.

[Karma is a_______]

Freebird USA wrote:

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Come now,its is the nature of humanity to band together and impose their will on those who see things differently. The only differences are the precise issues they disagree on.
A. Ms ABC won't tolerate any restriction on abortion
A-1 Mr ABC feels just the opposite,he thinks "sensible restrictions" are in order.
B. Mr BCD won't tolerate any restrictions on his 2nd amendmendt guarantee.
B-1 Ms BCD thinks "guns are bad" and they should be banned or regulated by a the government.
C. Ms EFG is quite sure morality dictates the rich pay a higher percentage of their income to the government to redistribute.
C-1. Mr EFG objects to being unfairly taxed at a higher rate because she is more sucessful and resents the government stealing the fruits of her labor to redistribute to deadbeats.
And so on. The only solution for these couples is divorce and the same is true of an equally divided nation suffering from irreconcilable differences.

funny how most anti-abortionists are the very same people who cry foul when the subject of gun control is brought up.
now please don't say the same is true of the pro-choice crowd crying foul when laws restricting abortion are brought up.
there is a difference, gun ownership has direct effects on the lives of others, just ask those 20 babies in Newtown Cn....or their families.
When an the use of an object impacts not just the user, but others the gov't can and should put restrictions on them. Cars are a perfect example.
an abortion affects no one else but the woman undergoing the procedure.
as for the rich being taxed at a higher rate, I'm not for that. I just want them taxed at the same rate I am....about 23%. But right now they for the vast majority (99%) are taxed at 15% or lower.

[RiversideRedneck]

DeAngelo of Memphis wrote:

Did y'all hear what the founder of the Church of Satan said what Satanism is defined as? Satanism holds the same principles as athiesm. Actually Athiesm IS Satanism. The name is just more politically correct, just as the name "New World Order" changed to "globalization". Satan doesn't want people to figure out that they are worshipping his ideals, not until we meet our maker. All of these athiests should read upon the Church of Satan's teachings and then compare them to their own belief system and hopefully they can realize the shit they have gotten themselves into.

"The seven deadly sins of the Christian Church are: greed, pride, envy, anger, gluttony, lust, and sloth. Satanism advocates indulging in each of these "sins" as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification."
-magus anton szandor lavey, church of satan founder

Sounds like an atheist...

[RiversideRedneck]

It aint necessarily so wrote:

<quoted text>
You don't miss a thing, do you?

Nothing.

[Mylan]

nanoanomaly wrote:

<quoted text>You live in a fantasy world.

The fact that you couldn't present ANY facts to this debate says an awful lot about you nanoanomaly.

I'll take what you call a fantasy world because it's the same world that brought you penicillin. It's called medical fact. Not that it will help a narrow minded person like yourself. See, I told you that I'd prove in public that you are a fool. Next time don't come to a debate without having facts to back up your illusions. LOL.

[Mylan]

Freebird USA wrote:

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And so on. The only solution for these couples is divorce and the same is true of an equally divided nation suffering from irreconcilable differences.

Well stated.

[Mylan]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

Thanks for pointing that out :)

Now the only thing that's left is for you to learn why the human brain has developed delusion, and to look in the mirror. LOL...

[Mylan]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

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Yup, most of our great universities have a Christian background and/or beginning.
Sucks to know that, being an athiest huh?

Why would it suck? It's called history.

[Catcher1]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

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No, I'd never do that - most respectable gun owners wouldn't do that, unless they're out in the sticks or something.
I was asleep by 10:30, but I heard gunshots & fireworks at midnight, it woke me up.

Must have been those Mexicans and Salvadorans nano was sprinkling her love about.

[Freebird]

Karma is a_______ wrote:

<quoted text>
funny how most anti-abortionists are the very same people who cry foul when the subject of gun control is brought up.
now please don't say the same is true of the pro-choice crowd crying foul when laws restricting abortion are brought up.
there is a difference, gun ownership has direct effects on the lives of others, just ask those 20 babies in Newtown Cn....or their families.
When an the use of an object impacts not just the user, but others the gov't can and should put restrictions on them. Cars are a perfect example.
an abortion affects no one else but the woman undergoing the procedure.
as for the rich being taxed at a higher rate, I'm not for that. I just want them taxed at the same rate I am....about 23%. But right now they for the vast majority (99%) are taxed at 15% or lower.

Thank you for confirming the validity of my post.

[Catcher1]

Mylan wrote:

<quoted text>Yes the open minded ones, but the majority are not here to learn or challenge their views. For example; most religious freaks are only here to point their finger at you and tell you that you're going to "go to hell". Fear and guilt was used on them, and they think it will work on you too. Common sense and logic to them is as invisible as the wind is to other people. In the end people just end up becoming polarized and frustrated.

Yes. But we also learn from one another, share common views and, at least for me, gain some encouragement that things are improving.

The godbots, well, ain't nothing we can do about them. Let them spew the venom and threaten eternal damnation. I ain't askeered.

[Mylan]

DeAngelo of Memphis wrote:

Actually Athiesm IS Satanism. The name is just more politically correct

Actually religion IS a mental disorder. The name is just more politically correct.

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Rosa Winkel wrote:

How very interesting. A lot of the crackdowns on speeding are just revenue raising.

[1] Merry Christmas:

"An Orange, County Florida cop disguised himself as an elf to issue between $10,000 and $50,000 in speeding tickets in less than three hours." http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/14/1486.asp [great photo]

[2] You've heard of Robocop, right? Meet Hobocop:

"Police in Ocala, Florida have brought back the practice of dressing up like the homeless in order to generate significant traffic ticket revenue." http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/13/1315.asp

[3] I only included this one because of the photo of the Amish at Wal-Mart:

"Ohio law allows small towns to establish mayor's courts instead of using county courthouses. The practice is meant to allow the towns to keep the significant revenue generated from motorists. The practice, however, has come under fire because it encourages speed traps. One of the most vocal critics is the Ohio Supreme Court's chief justice. "The Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals recognized the inherent conflict in a system that permits the person responsible for the fiscal well being of a community to use judicial powers to produce income that supports the well being"
http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/14/1492.asp

[4] And don't think that these speed traps can't be lucrative:

"For the third year in a row, cops in Pendergrass, Georgia earned the state's speed trap record by collecting $1012 in cash for each of the city's 479 residents. The $485,011 prize came from seizures, fees, and speeding tickets in 2005. Motorists passing through on their way between Athens and Gainesville provided the lion's share of the money."

[Freebird]

Mylan wrote:

<quoted text>Well stated.

Here is to new beginnings.

[boooots]

nanoanomaly wrote:

<quoted text>Only the Mexican and El Salvadorians do it here, every hour of the entire day. How convenient that the bullets don't fall back down on their own pointy heads.

I wondered about the firing of guns into the air, because we always see the people in those war torn Muslim areas doing that, and knowing that what goes up must come down, and even though a bullet coming down is a pretty light object, it is still traveling at over 100 mph freefall or if on a trajectory could even be at almost the velocity it left the gun. I discovered online that it is frequent that people do get hit and often killed by those kinds of displays. I really wonder at someone firing a burst from a machine gun into the air in a crowd of thousands of people.

I think there might have been occasions at charivaris (shivarees or chivarees) that I went on when I was young, that someone fired a shotgun, however we were in a very remote rural area and the odds of the pellets from a shot gun coming down on someone would have been next to nil, and since hunters often fired at birds in flight, that would be an ongoing risk anyway.

My brother-in-law did get hit in the face by some stray pellets that someone fired towards the water somewhere opposite him, and a pellet or two ricocheted off the water and struck him in the face. I think it lodged under the skin on his forehead. Fortunately it didn't hit him in the eye.

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Aerobatty wrote:

How does the mother benefit [from a fetus]?

RiversideRedneck wrote:

Her titties get bigger.

That's pretty funny.