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Jan 2, 2013
 
Catcher1 wrote:
I know who you are, you sock. Moe? Curly?
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TOCO8TE...

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So what if he thinks that all women should do is breed for his sake? Would that be contrary to the implications or nature of Evolution, which you so adamantly advocate for?
What are the implications and nature of evolution? Maximizing reproduction? Survival of the fittest? Those aren't humanist values.

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Love is affection. You are confusing it with pain.
He might be a former Christian. Don't you consider Christ's crucifixion an act of love?
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It aint necessarily so wrote:
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He might be a former Christian. Don't you consider Christ's crucifixion an act of love?
I think all of this is stupid. As stupid as what you wrote.
As stupid as hurting a child on purpose. Intelligence?
Stupidity.

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It aint necessarily so wrote:
Oogah Boogah was referring to religious faith
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Fair enough. So I take it that "Oogah Boogah" is the most that you are able to make of religious faith. Tragic.
Your mind isn't of much value to you. Or me.
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You must be aware that the attempt to QUALIFY experiences is a philosophy aim; it is not a "scientific" pursuit.
Is there a point here?
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And while a person has evidence to support their religious faith; how is their faith different from evidence based belief?
Religious faith is different from evidence based belief in three important ways:

[1] Religious faith lacks an evidential foundation. It is a guess and a fervent hope, but nothing more. In logical terms, religious faith consists of treating a hypothesis as an axiom or theorem.

[2] Religious faith is certain, whereas beliefs based on evidence are tentative, and are only as strong as the quality and quantity of evidence permits.

[3] Religious faith is refractory to contradictory evidence.

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Describe one aspect of religious faith or one instance where religious faith was demonstrated, when there was no evidence to support or justify it.
Here are three:

[1]“We don't have to protect the environment, the Second Coming is at hand”- James Watt, Secretary of the Interior under Reagan

[2] "We ask why there is violence in our schools, but we have systematically removed God from our schools. Should we be so surprised that schools would become a place of carnage?" - Mike Huckabee, former governor of Arkansas

[3] "The abortionists have got to bear some burden for [9/11] because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad ... I point the finger in their face and say 'you helped this happen.' " - Jerry Falwell

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It aint necessarily so wrote:
Religious faith is often contradicted by evidence, but not to the religious. They are impervious to it.
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Scientific theories/ideas are often contradicted by evidence. As a matter of fact, contradicting a theory helps to advance the theory. So whats your point, really?
Scientists do not have religious faith. They seek, welcome, and assimilate contradictory evidence. Religious faith simply ignores it.
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There is no truth in religious faith.
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How would you know?
Religious faith is faith without evidence. It is a guess. Even if the guess were correct, you couldn't know it is without finding compelling evidence, at which point is ceases to be religious faith.

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Science does not acknowledge "truth", as such. Hence the nature of truth with respect to science is a philosophical one.
Yes, I know that. The branch of philosophy dealing with such concepts as truth, fact, knowledge and belief is called epistemology. Truth is the quality that facts possess, and facts are linguistic strings that accurately map a portion of reality. Belief is the acceptance that an idea is factual or probably factual, and knowledge may be called justified true belief.
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So your expression that "There is no truth in religious faith", is nothing but your personal philosophy.
A guess about a god is unlikely to be factual. That's my opinion, as well as that of most skeptics, and it is founded in reason and experience.

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It aint necessarily so wrote:
Evidence based belief is both distinct from religious faith, and more valid...
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How so?
You just asked me that, and I just answered it. See http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TOCO8TE... at the bottom.
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Give examples or situations where "religious faith" is less valid and distinct from "evidence based belief".
Ditto. See http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TOCO8TE...

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nanoanomaly wrote:
Sadists love inflicting pain.
Who says that you never make a contribution?

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Forum carlsbad nm wrote:
It is not your choice to kill anyone. It is murder.
Murder is not synonymous with homicide. Murder is deliberate, unlawful homicide. Abortion - feticide - is legal.
Forum carlsbad nm wrote:
Don't have sex if you do not want a child. That is what it is for. Reproducing.
Bad thinking and bad advice.

I frequently list Christian prudery as one of its forms of societal damage - so much needless guilt and needlessly sacrificed pleasure. Thank you, Jesus.

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UR BS wrote:
You see I also attended Catholic School and the thing I took away from that was to treat others with respect. Now since I have grown I have discovered that many do not deserve respect so I treat them in kind with the way they treat others.
Then the thing that you took away from Catholic school was wrong?

By the way, I agree with your revised philosophy. Many do not deserve respect, especially the Christian church.
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He has come to judge the living and the dead
and his kingdom will have no end.

He hath made a remembrance of His wonderful
works, b e i n g a merciful and gracious Lord:
He hath given food to them that fear Him.

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Forum carlsbad nm wrote:
He has come to judge the living and the dead
and his kingdom will have no end.
He hath made a remembrance of His wonderful
works, b e i n g a merciful and gracious Lord:
He hath given food to them that fear Him.
Who is he and what criteria is he using to judge the dead? If I had known, I would have put a little party hat on my grandfather.
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River Tam wrote:
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Who is he and what criteria is he using to judge the dead? If I had known, I would have put a little party hat on my grandfather.
Sins. Everyone knows. Good luck.

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Anon wrote:
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It's fun to remember things, huh? I remember your comment not too many pages ago where, upon learning of a young boy that was killed in a gun accident, you cleverly referred to it as "thinning out the herd". Now why would a god fearing, upright Christian make a statement like that? Here's a link in case your memory fails you.
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TOCO8TE...
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The link you provided looks like this (divided twice so that you can see it all):

[1] http://www.topix.com/ forum/topstories/ TOCO8TEGNA8I5JT63/ p27599

This only takes us to a page, not directly to any of the posts on it.

There are two other formats that Topix uses:

[2] http://www.topix.com/ forum/topstories/ TOCO8TEGNA8I5JT63/ p27599#c580059

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[3] http://www.topix.com/ forum/topstories/ TOCO8TEGNA8I5JT63/ post580059

Notice that these specify post numbers.

Posts migrate from one page to another in Topix, probably as a result of post deletions. The post you wanted is no longer on page 27599. It is now on page 27606, meaning that format [2] won't find your post any more, either.

This would work: http://www.topix.com/ forum/topstories/ TOCO8TEGNA8I5JT63/ p27606#c580059

Here it is intact for you to test. Look at the URL it generates; http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TOCO8TE...

Therefore, of these choices [3] is the preferred format, since it doesn't specify a page number.

How do you get links in this format? The only way I have found is to take it right from the post itself rather than the URL bar on your browser or anywhere. Right click on the post number just to the left of the Judgit function, and select Copy Link Location. Your link will always be good unless the post is deleted.

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Mylan wrote:
The perfect birth control is coming. They've figured out how the egg attracts the sperm and now they just need to find a way to block the calcium ion signal.
Forum carlsbad nm wrote:
God just burns you when he can't stand you. He has figured out that you are not human. Get on your knees and beg.
Oops!

Most of you Christians can't conceal your essential natures very well or for very long, can you? Under a very thin veneer of faux love is a burning hatred for anybody that would challenge your faith.

It's been noted how often the Christian's version of god is merely an extension of his own ego - the reason that the god always agrees with him, and hates what he hates.

Still, it's odd that you would meltdown at that comment.

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Forum carlsbad nm wrote:
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Sins. Everyone knows. Good luck.
Good luck?

Now you tell me.

BTW. You've caught my attention. Think about changing your name.
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River Tam wrote:
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Good luck?
Now you tell me.
BTW. You've caught my attention. Think about changing your name.
Are you evil? Good luck. He probably hates you as much as I
do. River Jordan.

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It aint necessarily so wrote:
It's a simple fact that for every life saved with by gun in the house, several are lost to impulsive actions and accidents
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Horseshit you can't justify that with any statistics or studies.
I already have:

http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TOCO8TE...

Here's another:

Guns in the Home and Risk of a Violent Death in the Home: Findings from a National Study
http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/160/10/...

"Data from a US mortality follow-back survey were analyzed to determine whether having a firearm in the home increases the risk of a violent death in the home and whether risk varies by storage practice, type of gun, or number of guns in the home. Those persons with guns in the home were at greater risk than those without guns in the home of dying from a homicide in the home (adjusted odds ratio = 1.9, 95% confidence interval: 1.1, 3.4). They were also at greater risk of dying from a firearm homicide, but risk varied by age and whether the person was living with others at the time of death.

"The risk of dying from a suicide in the home was greater for males in homes with guns than for males without guns in the home (adjusted odds ratio = 10.4, 95% confidence interval: 5.8, 18.9). Persons with guns in the home were also more likely to have died from suicide committed with a firearm than from one committed by using a different method (adjusted odds ratio = 31.1, 95% confidence interval: 19.5, 49.6). Results show that regardless of storage practice, type of gun, or number of firearms in the home, having a gun in the home was associated with an increased risk of firearm homicide and firearm suicide in the home."

And another [Note that this is the 1993 Kellerman study and not the 1986 one]:

"Keeping a gun in the home carries a murder risk 2.7 times greater than not keeping one, according to a study by Arthur Kellermann. The National Rifle Association has fiercely attacked this study, but it remains valid despite its criticisms. The study found that people are 21 times more likely to be killed by someone they know than a stranger breaking into the house. Half of the murders were over arguments or romantic triangles. The study also found that the increased murder rate in gun-owning households was entirely due to an increase in gun homicides only, not any other murder method.

"It further found that gun-owning households saw an increased murder risk by family or intimate acquaintances, not by strangers or non-intimate acquaintances. The most straightforward explanation is that the presence of a gun increases the possibility that a normal family fight or drinking binge will become deadly. No other explanation fits the above facts."
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-kellermann.ht...

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