Prove there's a god.

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Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#575138 Dec 18, 2012
Susie D wrote:
I am guessing you didn’t know the fig tree was a parable??
The whole bible is a parable.

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Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#575139 Dec 18, 2012
Eddy Boyd wrote:
Respect earned rather than given freely in goodwill?
Yes, of course. Why would I respect something I am unfamiliar with?

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#575140 Dec 18, 2012
boooots wrote:
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No, I wouldn't quote scripture even if I thought the Bible was fact. Scripture has no relevance to this topic, and also it was explained in the very first post that scripture would not be accepted. It is a sign of stupidity to quote scripture in a discussion to prove there's a god, because all that is is starting a circular argument, or circular logic, which is a logical error.
Quoting scripture to prove a god exists is as valuable as quoting a Harry Potter book to prove Harry Potter is a historical factual character. Though not having read anything relating to Harry Potter I can say that only by guessing, and based on the fact that I have read about how the author produced the books, and went from penniless to a very wealthy woman.
You are the one that stated "Do unto others" as a universal moral that should be upheld.

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Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#575141 Dec 18, 2012
Susie D wrote:
I think most of the people here are anti-theist as you just explained.
Anti-theism, not anti-theist.

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#575142 Dec 18, 2012
River Tam wrote:
I listened.
It's the one with the Ocean.
I was gonna guess Virgin Islands.

I bet they don't have crabs there.

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Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#575143 Dec 18, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
What are we not empathizing with?
Non-Christians, and our interests, complaints and preferences. Do you deny it?

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Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#575144 Dec 18, 2012
River Tam wrote:
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Any society. Once again...morality comes from the people and not from the society that the people created. Societies change quickly. Have you seen Egypt or Syria lately?
If it was easy, it wouldn't be fun.
People's morality change as they mature as well. Once again, people make up society. So, society it's culture, and it's morality changes as the people change.

Since: Jan 11

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#575145 Dec 18, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
The whole bible is a parable.
Have you heard the parable of the parachute?

http://super-hampster.blogspot.com/2007/04/pa...

It's dumb too.

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Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#575146 Dec 18, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
I told you the same thing Sarah did, that I don't go to church. You seem to ignore that & keep ranting on about some mysterious problem with "the church".....
Do you only know one meaning of the word church? See if you can find one from this list that might be the meaning that I have in mind:

Church
1 : a building for public and especially Christian worship
2 : the clergy or officialdom of a religious body
3 often capitalized : a body or organization of religious believers: as
a : the whole body of Christians
b : denomination <the Presbyterian church>
c : congregation
4 : a public divine worship <goes to church every Sunday>
5 : the clerical profession <considered the church as a possible career>

“What game?”

Since: Oct 10

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#575147 Dec 18, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>
I was gonna guess Virgin Islands.
I bet they don't have crabs there.
Cambodia.

They have crabs there ;)

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Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#575148 Dec 18, 2012
Susie D wrote:
<quoted text>Actually I did not evade the question, it is an old one. Been there done that...
You evaded the question. I don't care why.
Susie D wrote:
You want us to care what you think or want when you could care less about what we think or want.
No, I don't expect you to care about anybody but the Christian church. And as a result of that understanding, I am indifferent to the wishes of Christians as Christians.
Susie D wrote:
If you actually wanted an honest interaction, then you went about it the wrong way. I can and am willing to engage in peaceful discussion about God
Thank you, but that is of no interest to me.I am interested in your church, and disempowering it in American daily life.
Susie D wrote:
We can start over if you wish and we can be a “team” and share, but that street goes both ways.
Start over? At what? I express my opinions about your church, you take it personally, and fire at me personally. How is that going to change? I don't intend to soften my criticism of Christianity, and I doubt that you can read such a thing without personal attacks.

As for being a team player and sharing, I wasn't referring to you personally. I'm referring to the church and its opinion and treatment of unbelievers. It will NEVER change its relationship or treatment of us until we dominate it and force it to. Do you deny that?

Do you know what your bible teaches as many people as it can about atheists? It's disgusting.

And do you know what the consequences of that atheophobic hate speech have been?

It's at that level that I refer when I talk your church being unwilling to share or play nice.

I'm not asking for your church to relent,or start becoming a good neighbor. I understand that that is out of the question, and that such a thing will never happen until we can force it to do so.

I'm merely pointing out what the church does and what needs to be done about it.

“What game?”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#575149 Dec 18, 2012
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>People's morality change as they mature as well. Once again, people make up society. So, society it's culture, and it's morality changes as the people change.
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>People's morality change as they mature as well.
What do you consider mature?

Since: Oct 12

Muscat,Oman

#575150 Dec 19, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
So, someone says it's so, therefore it's so? That means leprechauns are real, unicorns are real, pegasus are real, cherubs are real .....
No,only god exists.

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Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#575151 Dec 19, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Your religion alienates you from your world and your own body, which most Christians scoffingly refer to as "the world" and "the flesh."
[1] "ye are not of the world" - John 15:19
[2] "This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the flesh and despise authority." - 2 Peter 2:10
RiversideRedneck wrote:
You think you can take any two scriptures and assemble them together as if they are meant to be one meaning?
No. Why do you ask? Is that what you think I did? Notice the word "and." It's a conjunction, and means that there are two ideas being considered simultaneously in the service of one theme.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
No wonder why you turned your back on God, you never understood the Bible so you never understood it's meaning and therefore never found God.
The bible is pretty simple and easy to read. And you are correct that I never found your god. Why wouldn't I leave the church?

Since: Oct 12

Muscat,Oman

#575152 Dec 19, 2012
River Tam wrote:
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What do you consider mature?
Hey River Tam how are you?Enjoying China.

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Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#575153 Dec 19, 2012
Susie D wrote:
<quoted text>You have faith just as I do, maybe not in the same things I have faith in, but you still have faith and that was my point.
I don't have faith like you do. You have religious faith. You choose what you want to believe, pretend that it's a fact, and then ignore evidence to the contrary.

I have secular belief based on experience, commensurate with the quantity and quality of evidence supporting the belief, and amenable to revision pending new evidence.

What two ways of thinking could be more radically different? You do murderous harm to reason when you conflate them.

“What game?”

Since: Oct 10

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#575154 Dec 19, 2012
shahid afridi wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey River Tam how are you?Enjoying China.
Hi. I'm OK. I enjoyed China when I was there too.

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Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#575155 Dec 19, 2012
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
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What do you consider mature?
pubic hair

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#575156 Dec 19, 2012
Laconic Assassins wrote:
You atheists still abort/kill children in mass quantities.
Most abortions are had by Christians.

Since: Oct 12

Muscat,Oman

#575157 Dec 19, 2012
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi. I'm OK. I enjoyed China when I was there too.
Then where you are now,when i talked to you,one month before you were there.

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