Prove there's a god.

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#574212 Dec 16, 2012
Laconic Assassins wrote:
<quoted text>No confused one, the Bible was based on over 5000 years of scripture and the documented and bibilcal science findings that the world was a sphere. Unlike, you pagans and atheists, you believed the world wS FLAT.
In fact, scientists, doctors, teachers, psychiatrists, etc. at once were all religious leaders and priests. The advent of atheism into these fields is a recent thing. You forget, you pagan and atheists were mostly a product of lack and no civil constructs.
science, geometry, math etc predates the bible by thousands of years

the bible says the world is flat

Matthew 4:8
8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; (KJV)

can't see everything on a global peak

never heard of a globe with edges

that it might take the earth by the edges and shake the wicked out of it?(From the NIV Bible, Job 38:13)"

"He unleashes his lightning beneath the whole heaven and sends it to the ends of the earth.(From the NIV Bible, Job 37:3)"

"for he views the ends of the earth and sees everything under the heavens.(From the NIV Bible, Job 28:24)"
Sharkey

Reno, NV

#574214 Dec 16, 2012
God Himself wrote:
<quoted text>
Science give no one the authority to make such a claim.
A science cannot be built on a negative argument...
The Big Bang could have occurred because a wizard with a magic wand poofed everything into existence (I'm not saying that that was the exact situation). But it couldn't be out of nowhere, it would have to be "poofed everything into space".
<quoted text>
So what about Richard Dawkins' new book "The Magic of Reality: How We Know What’s Really True"?
That book is worse than an attempt to turn reality into fantasy; that book is an attempt to turn reality into a fantasy.
I agree that God is not like a magician with a magic wand; but thats your conception of God, not mine. You people keep imposing your misconceptions about God unto people... talking about God with a magic wand... I dont even believe in magic.
<quoted text>
I am not insinuating that the bible is superior to any thought, scientific or unscientific.
I am saying that the system of thought used to compose the bible can embrace all other types of thought; scientific, unscientific, moral, immoral, amoral... you name it.
In other words, the Bible encourages scientific thought as well as spiritual thought. Is that insinuating that the bible is superior?
And so what is I said that the bible is superior? What if I said "the dynamic nature of the biblical thought makes it superior"? Whacha gonna do about it?
Tell you the fact that it is NOT superior, and if it was, there wouldn't be so many different versions and demoninations fighting over which bible to use.
The Bible is not the ONLY system of thought out there; that's what your church wants you to believe. The Bible has taken other systems of thought and made them their own. The Bible has practiced a kind of "colonialism" on people of different religions, taking credit for, and downright STEALING, other civilization's ideas.
It has been plaigerized, reinterpreted, and misinterpreted by too many authors with their own population-control agenda.
You have demonstrated that the brainwashing is strong in you and you have it wrapped around you like you think it's your security blanket. It's not a security blanket, it's a crazy quilt built with the dirty rags of lies and the filthy threads of deception that is CAUSING THE SELF-EXTINCTION OF HUMAN BEINGS.
Ooooh, yes, the bible is "superior" all right - it's a superior tool to get an entire species to destroy itself over bullsh!t stories and fantasies.
The mind of mankind is sick to basically write a manifesto of self-extinction.
But maybe self-extinction is best, considering how evil and disgusting we humans are. The homo sapien will kill itself with its own violence anyway, why not write a book on how to do so? And alas...the bible.

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#574215 Dec 16, 2012
Laconic Assassins wrote:
<quoted text><cheese>
So, here is the question and take your time: If you child had leukemia would you let it be treated for free at St. Jude or Children's Hospital, which are the best in the world or would you wiat in an atheist equivalent??????????
.. St. Jude is not a Christian hospital ..

http://www.stjude.org/stjude/v/index.jsp...

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#574216 Dec 16, 2012
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>
I see your reading comprehension skills are somewhat lacking. I didn't say 3 years of losing and 25 million dead Russians won the war.
I said Russia, the soviets played the biggest part of defeating Nazi Germany.
oh and BTW do please try and get your facts straight.
Russia had not been in the war for 3 years when we got in it. Operation Barbarossa didn't happen until June 1942. By the end of the Battle of Stalingrad, Jan '43, Germany was on the defensive and being pushed out of Russia
"Why was this battle of Stalingrad so important?
The failure of the German Army was nothing short of a disaster. A complete army group was lost at Stalingrad and 91,000 Germans were taken prisoner. With such a massive loss of manpower and equipment, the Germans simply did not have enough manpower to cope with the Russian advance to Germany when it came.
Despite resistance in parts – such as a Kursk – they were in retreat on the Eastern Front from February 1943 on.
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/battle_o...
White Din

Sharkey

Reno, NV

#574217 Dec 16, 2012
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. actually, Loco wants to have sex with me ..
Nawww..., he's pissed because Nurse Rufus turned him down. It's not WOMEN Loco is after...

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#574220 Dec 16, 2012
Laconic Assassins wrote:
<quoted text>God is a demonstrated fact
God is a fact regardless your belief
God is even a fact regardless my lack of belief
rational skeptics evaluate
athitards whine....

I'll have my god med well on ka bob stick , how you gonna have yours?
Sharkey

Reno, NV

#574221 Dec 16, 2012
Laconic Assassins wrote:
<quoted text>You are the one making the claim that a definition of god matters.
It is your choice to freely go into that flame and fire. It would be unGodly for God to deny you that choice. You abort children and have gay anal sex, and only disease and suicide stops you. No, it is the fault of you if you do not receoive good solid information. Besides, it is not the clear information that holds you back, it is absent of the information which you wish to hear.
If clear and concise information were your quest,then you would spend 8 hours a day reading the Bible and another 4 hours a day in a church learning from a priest or preacher. No, you simply desire to find confusion and delusion.
This is clear with the likes of AL Garcia, whom you call biblically illiterate while hold him up as an example of a good Christian. So, do you desire to be bibically illiterate like Al Garcia, and if so, then how does God's message then become clear to you.
It is noise that you listen to.
Selfishlessness.
A selfless person seeks to deliver the truth and message, despite the message that the mass wishes to hear. The best excample of that is and always will be Jesus Christ. He spoke of love, warned of hell and advised all that his love would lead many out of destruction. The selfishless message that most have missed is this, you were sentenced to hell the day that you became a child of the devils. Jesus came to set you free. He left heaven and peace and entered into this world of tormoil and hate, selfishlessness and away from bliss, so you might see clearly and precisely. You were bonr with a cancer, and Jesus is the only physician which can heal you and that is clear.
"Jesus is the physician which can heal you"?
OK.
So when will your Jesus magically "heal" you of your manic obsession with gay men?
Waiting.....

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#574222 Dec 16, 2012
Sharkey wrote:
<quoted text>God messed up when he made you.
God messed you up regardless of your belief.
God made you so that you can hate yourself.
Happy homosexuals have partners,
Lonely gay self-haters like Loco @ss hate on forever until Loco hates himself to death.
And THOSE are FACTS.
Maybe we should pitch in together and buy Loco ass a make over kit>? The she could get laid...maybe?

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#574223 Dec 16, 2012
Phil Gray wrote:
<quoted text>
I fart up your nose.
Well, that pretty well settles it, doesn't it, where you stand?
Sharkey

Reno, NV

#574225 Dec 16, 2012
God Himself wrote:
<quoted text>
No.
Change and development in nature is a demonstrated and immediately observable fact.
Evolution is an attempt to describe the change and development in nature.
BTW, why do rational sceptics believe that they are rational; since they dont believe anything?
"Change and development in nature and immediately observable fact".
Evolution MEANS "change and development in nature".
Thanks.
YOU just proved evolution is true.
Why do religionists create a false division in belief when belief is just plain belief, period, no matter what it is in?
Sharkey

Reno, NV

#574228 Dec 16, 2012
Laconic Assassins wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry, St Jude is indeed a Christian hospital, just like most of the Ivy League schools are Christian schools in origin. There are 1000s of both and zero atheist of either. How sad.
Gosh, no gay hospitals or schools either. Many black colleges though, so your attempt to catch up to blacks is failing.
Stop creating false divisions. You are an instigator of conflict.
THE LABELS DON'T MATTER.
Who CARES if the hospital is "Christian" or not?
A hospital is a hospital is a hospital. A school is a school is a school.
Stop instigating armegeddon. The really sad thing is that you're so miserable that you WANT to start fights.
Get to one of those "St Whoever" prison hospitals for YOUR MANIC OBSESSION WITH GAY MEN...
Sharkey

Reno, NV

#574230 Dec 16, 2012
Laconic Assassins wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry, you need to speak with Shark bait about gay things on a stick. I heard that he likes Matthew Shepard on a flaming stick. Oh, you too.
This is why your @ss is locked up in the St. Whoever Psychiatric Prison for the rest of your life:

You were an evil pedophile who has raped too many little boys, and one of those boys had the guts to report your @ss and have you thrown in that padded room every night.
You spend your days on Topix spewing your poison and your anger and your hatred for your gay self over and over and over again, under dozens of names, because you truly have nothing else to do to occupy your sick mind.

You were a danger to society and they were right to put an evil piece of sh!t like you away.
They would have executed you, but they felt you didn't deserve the escape of death. They wanted you to live and suffer, like you are now, in your circle of hatred for your gay self.

I waited for your Jesus to "cure" you of your obsession with gay men.
Then you came back with the same old gay sh!t.

Um....what happened to Jesus? Why didn't Jesus "cure" you of your obsession with gay men?

We all know you are Lo-co for Nurse Rufus, Loco. Your crush is making your loveSICK.
Sharkey

Reno, NV

#574232 Dec 16, 2012
Laconic Assassins wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, you are lonely and you want Jesus to heal you.
The miracles of Jesus are the supernatural deeds of Jesus, as recorded in the Gospels, in the course of his ministry. According to the Gospel of John, only some of these were recorded. John 21:25 states that "Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down,...even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written." These miracles may be categorized into four groups: cures, exorcisms, resurrection of the dead and control over nature.[1][2]
In the Synoptic Gospels (Mark, Matthew, and Luke), Jesus refuses to give a miraculous sign to prove his authority.[3] In the Gospel of John, Jesus is said to have performed seven miraculous signs that characterize his ministry, from changing water into wine at the start of his ministry to raising Lazarus from the dead at the end.[4]
To many Christians and Muslims,[5] the miracles are actual historical events. Others, such as some liberal Christians, may consider these stories to be figurative.[6] Historians are virtually unable to confirm or refute reports of Jesus' miracles.[7] Certain Christian scholars present arguments for the historicity of miracles
"According to the Gospel of John"...
Boy, you're not just sick in the head, but gullible, too! Sad. You've been bamboozled by those people who wrote the bible.
STOP PEDDLING THAT BOOK FOR HUMAN SELF-EXTINCTION.
YOU ARE AN INSTIGATOR OF ARMEGEDDON.
YOU ARE A MURDERER!
MURDERER!

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#574233 Dec 16, 2012
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. St. Jude is not a Christian hospital ..
http://www.stjude.org/stjude/v/index.jsp...
Is that the same Amos Muzyad Yakhoob Kairouz that was born just a couple miles across the river to the north of where my oldest sister, and my only living brother now live, one of the only American cities that you have to go north to get to from Canada, directly? If so I didn't know that about St Jude Hospital either, though I can't say for sure I had heard of St Jude Hospital before. I did kind of like old Amos when he was popular, and alive. My daughter was a customs officer at the bridge there for a few years while she attended university.

She had to confiscated a few guns from Americans who thought they could drive into Canada with guns on them, and the customs people on the Canadian side were not armed in those days, though I understand that they are beginning to arm them in some places now.
Sharkey

Reno, NV

#574235 Dec 16, 2012
Laconic Assassins wrote:
<quoted text>Evolution does not mean change and development in nature. Try to learn something. Atheists scientists have tried to pervert the meaming, after such a history of failing.
Your attempt to refute a mis-representation [sic] of science amounts to nothing more than a straw man argument.
Do you understand how supernatural intervention cannot be scientific, even if it is true?
I think it is your intent to give a false and misleading account of biological evolution, and science in general, to promote your atheist views. Do you have any training in biology or evolutionary biology?
What kind of evolution is taught in school? Schools teach that modes of transportation have evolved from horse and buggy to spacecraft. Schools also teach that new varieties of dogs, horses, corn, and roses have been produced by selective breeding. Those kinds of evolution are irrelevant to the lawsuit because nobody disagrees with that, or objects to it being taught. Therefore, the law in question defined the objectionable kind of evolution to be:
Emergence by naturalistic processes of the universe from disordered matter and emergence of life from nonlife;
The sufficiency of mutation and natural selection in bringing about development of present living kinds from simple earlier kinds;
Emergence by mutation and natural selection of present living kinds from simple earlier kinds;
Emergence of man from a common ancestor with apes;
Explanation of the earth's geology and the evolutionary sequence by uniformitarianism; and
An inception several billion years ago of the earth and somewhat later of life.
The latter is the definition in which we are dealing with, the former is just deception.
You really are oblivious.
Evolution does mean change. Everything changes over time. Everything IS changing over time.

Of course YOU wouldn't get how evolution works, because you are STUCK in your self-hatred mode and won't EVOLVE (CHANGE) from it.

Let you tell it, we'd still be riding a horse and buggy instead of flying into space! THAT's a clear example of EVOLUTION (CHANGE) right there!

Of course, since you believe in a god with a magic wand with a magic cure, you won't be needing your psychotropic meds, right??? Because god will cure you of your obsession with gay men!
You need to EVOLVE out of that self-hating mindset...or die a lonely stiff statue of your own hatred.

EVOLVE!
EVOLVE!

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#574236 Dec 16, 2012
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. actually, Loco wants to have sex with me ..
Gosh, HL, do you ever get any breaks?:)
Sharkey

Reno, NV

#574238 Dec 16, 2012
Laconic Assassins wrote:
<quoted text>If a hospital is a hospital, then you atheists and gays should be able to found and build one. Sorry, there is nothing to fight over, which is why you are failing. Perhaps, I should focuse on lesbians, since you get a rise out of gay men.
Here:
In 1992 two Jeffersonville, Indiana lesbians, aged 17 and 16, abducted a 12-year-old girl whom they accused of trying to “steal a girlfriend.” The little girl was pushed into the trunk of a car, stabbed repeatedly, and beaten with a heavy metal bar. While still struggling, they poured gasoline on her and set her ablaze. Later that year a Fort Lauderdale, Florida 14-year-old was convicted of first-degree murder for helping to kill his 40-year-old father. The father “was stabbed 45 times and beaten so badly with an iron skillet that the skillet shattered.”
These murders fit traditional psychiatric opinion: excessive violence is naturally associated with other forms of social pathology.
BETTER. <SMILE>
<SMILES> at Loco grasping at straws to justify your hatred for your gay self.
You seem to have a sick need to use horrible example of gays and lesbians to confirm your self-hatred.
Forget about the 99% of happy homosexuals, oh no, just focus on the 1% that you are part of that does evil.
You would have been next on that list of "horrible things gay people did" but they locked your crazy @ss up before that could happen.
Kudos to the people in your city for locking your sick @ss away, you demented-@ss freak.
Sharkey

Reno, NV

#574239 Dec 16, 2012
Laconic Assassins wrote:
<quoted text>Here is somemore therapy for you.
Here is another report with the latest facts for your statistics on homosexuals. The U.S. Center for Disease Control’s most recent data on the spread of sexually transmitted diseases reveals that among homosexual men, the syphilis rates rose 134% between 2009 and 2010. During the same time frame, syphilis rates among the general population fell by 1.6%.
WASHINGTON, DC, November 22, 2011 ( LifeSiteNews.com )- The U.S. Center for Disease Control’s (CDC) most recent data on the spread of sexually transmitted diseases reveals that among homosexual men the syphilis rates rose a staggering 134% between 2009 and 2010. During the same time frame, syphilis rates among the general population fell by 1.6%.
CDC data “show a significant increase in syphilis among young men who have sex with men (MSM), suggesting that new infections among MSM are driving the increase in young men,” the CDC report stated.“The finding is particularly concerning as there has also been a sharp increase in HIV infections among this population.”
The CDC has estimated that practicing homosexual men account for 61% of the new HIV infections in the United States, driven by an alarming increase in new infections among young homosexual men - a 48% increase in the period of 2006-2009.
“Studies suggest that people with gonorrhea, chlamydia, or syphilis are at increased risk for HIV,” the CDC report concludes.“Given the increase in both syphilis and HIV among young gay and bisexual men, it is particularly urgent to diagnose and treat both diseases.”
Nawww....venting self-hatred is YOUR therapy, Loco, not mine.
Now that you've vented your hatred for your gay self, Loco, it's time to now focus on the cure: loving and accepting yourself just as your Jesus would.
Jesus will be there at your gay wedding to Nurse Rufus, because he will forgive you no matter how much you misrepresent him and twist his words.
Jesus loves both you and Rufus and wants you to love each other as he said "love one another"...

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#574240 Dec 16, 2012
Happy Lesbo wrote:
.. your link does not work ..
All you have to do is google answering infidals.com murdock licona and it should come up.
.. never made the claim that Murdock is an expert on myths.
You did reference her before. Besides if they are going to claim Christianity copied from pagan myth then they need to cite pagan sources which pre date Christianity. Then they have to show a connect. There is none on the Christian side. Like crucifixion of hindu gods. It is not there and is totally made up. All they cite is secoundary sources.
You attempt to invalidate her scholarship based on one statement by another scholar.
Actually it was two scholars. One a Hindu and another a Christian. Show us where she sites primary sources for any of her claims. Like the Egyptian book of the dead.
Again, that is intellectually dishonest.
if your references do not have evidence from primary sources which predate Christianity and cannot show a connect from one to th other then claim there is a connect then that is dishonest and you aid and abet.
Have you read the book? I haven't so I'm not qualified to critique it. Are you ??..
No i have not read her book. I have read reviews enough to dismiss her as a crackpot. I am reading Ehrman.
.. however, Hinduism is not in conflict with Christianity. They both teach virtues like honesty, character, reliability, compassion, peace, respect and faith so a comparison is valid ..
All beliefs have things in common. That does not mean they connect or one came from another.
.. again, you snipped portions of my post concerning Cappadocian and Trinitarian theology, historic Christianity and how Jesus became God. If you do not want to debate these issues, please do not respond to this post. You continue to change focus and are all over the map ..
I responded to your Trinity claim by citing a primary source called the Gospel of Matthew. It don't get much more primary than that when it comes to Christianity. It was there from the get go. Matthew also has the God with us verse. If your brain is a receiver than i must conclude you are not receiving my clear signal. And i know the fault is not with the signal.
Sharkey

Reno, NV

#574241 Dec 16, 2012
Laconic Assassins wrote:
<quoted text>If I am in a hospital and your mom does not care, then why do you still hate yourself and mom? Why are you afraid? If you can't handle hear about gayu things, then don't vote for gay things. Simple.
I find it odd that you have such anger and hatred over hearing about gay things. Wait, when you hear gay lies you are not bothered. Like when Harvey Milk Day was proclaimed and Gay History taught you said nothing, when homosexuality was claimed by a few not to be a mental illness and when the gay right lie was expounded you said nothing.
"A man is known by the things he supports most and those things that anger him." It appears that it is you who is gay.
<snikcer> Your self hatred exposes you as a sock. Funny thing, whenever HL needs to go on vile attacks, you show up.
Coincidence.
Wait, here it comes, "you are all HL" <snickerZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ >
And now you have ARRIVED at BALALALALALALALALand!
Loco just got off the CRAZY TRAIN!!
TOOT-TOOT (I mean COO-COO!)
Lo-co ES LO-CO!
LMMFAO!

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