Prove there's a god.

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#573123 Dec 13, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> I notice that is the only context in which one can define right and wrong. Here is a few facts you ignore. While the Israelites were enslaved in Egypt for 400 years the Canaanites were given that amount of time to repent. Their offenses are listed in Scripture. Since most here claim they know Scripture they will have no problem finding them.(HA HA) The Israelites cried out to God and God eventually delivered Israel via a series of judgements. Pharoah had babies killed and abused the Israelites and judgement came down. Later Israel became a nation which divided and eventually both Israel and Judah was sent off into slavery because they kept messing up with God. You don't have to believe in God to understand the basic themes. In a general sense a train of abuses over a certain period of time brings judgement. That is a general theme. Exception include the book of Job and Joseph who were good characters and yet was handed difficult circumstances. The fact being you have your mind made up about things you know little about. And i am not in the mood to teach kindergarden Christianity to a bunch of ingrates.
You can "teach" us "ingrates" about christianity all you want - it doesn't matter, there is no justification for a so called perfect, merciful god condoning slavery. The circumstances do not matter, and in fact only make clear just how twisted your god's "morality" is, because he is necessarily responsible for the circumstances that required his judgement. He created the situation in which the "bad guys" persecuted the "chosen people." He delivered the chosen people from bondage, and then he gave his tacit approval of slavery by handing down guidelines for what you hilariously refer to as "mild slavery." How does that make any sense? It doesn't - you just need it to make sense so that you can consider your god moral even while knowing of his many immoral actions and words.

And it's funny that you basically accuse me of being closed minded. Provide me with evidence of your god, and I will have no choice but to believe. I doubt that you could claim that anything would convince you to leave christianity - you are indoctrinated so hard that you are inexplicably trying to defend slavery in the name of your god.

A tip - Trying to paint god as a moral agent who endorsed slavery is not the best way to get anyone to believe in your god.

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#573124 Dec 13, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> Right. <quoted text> No. <quoted text> God made beings with will and some chose the wrong things and there was consequences. A world in men can freely choose good and evil is better than a world where man can only do good. So you dicked up on your premise and your conclusion is wrong.
Lol. God creates humans, gives them free will, surrounds them with temptations, and bases salvation around belief while withholding all evidence of his existence - and then punishes his creations for behaving exactly how he knew they would. Sounds legit.

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#573125 Dec 13, 2012
Just Results wrote:
<quoted text>
Atheists are horrible people. I have firsthand personal knowledge of that.
I eat babies.

Since: Sep 11

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#573126 Dec 13, 2012
Just Results wrote:
<quoted text>
I can see now why you are going to Hell to burn forever and ever. Trust me, I do look for ways to see your way out of that demise, but you just keep on proving why you deserve the punishment you'll receive. I give up now on justifying an exit plan for you.
But I always have the common courtesy to kill my victims quickly, I never torture them eternally, or wish that upon them.

“Is that all you've got?”

Since: Jun 10

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#573127 Dec 13, 2012
boooots wrote:
<quoted text>...I just think your behavior on this site stinks.
The feeling is mutual, in case you hadn't noticed.

You're not the boss of this thread. q:

“Is that all you've got?”

Since: Jun 10

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#573128 Dec 13, 2012
boooots wrote:
<quoted text>
For the time being and the near future, nano, I am going to ignore your posts. You are welcome to also ignore mine.
It's about fckg time!!!

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#573129 Dec 13, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>You can "teach" us "ingrates" about christianity all you want - it doesn't matter, there is no justification for a so called perfect, merciful god condoning slavery. The circumstances do not matter, and in fact only make clear just how twisted your god's "morality" is, because he is necessarily responsible for the circumstances that required his judgement. He created the situation in which the "bad guys" persecuted the "chosen people." He delivered the chosen people from bondage, and then he gave his tacit approval of slavery by handing down guidelines for what you hilariously refer to as "mild slavery." How does that make any sense? It doesn't - you just need it to make sense so that you can consider your god moral even while knowing of his many immoral actions and words.
And it's funny that you basically accuse me of being closed minded. Provide me with evidence of your god, and I will have no choice but to believe. I doubt that you could claim that anything would convince you to leave christianity - you are indoctrinated so hard that you are inexplicably trying to defend slavery in the name of your god.
A tip - Trying to paint god as a moral agent who endorsed slavery is not the best way to get anyone to believe in your god.
Excellent.

I tip my hat to you.

ipi

Since: Dec 12

Norway

#573130 Dec 13, 2012
boooots wrote:
<quoted text>
That pretty well says what I have also said here several times. Based on the whole picture as depicted in the Bible, only a masochist would want to spend eternity with such a monster as is depicted especially in the Old Testament.
The Old Testament firmly states that if your child does not listen to you, or grant you the respect a parent should have, then you should take him to the out-lands and stone him to death..

Imagine that in modern society!
Oh wait... stoning actually still DOES happen

ipi

Since: Dec 12

Norway

#573131 Dec 13, 2012
In my fair opinion, and out of the life experience given me, I'm going to lash out an argument stating that the most judgmental religion I have ever met, is Christianity, with their parochial view.

And I've been a christian for 17 years, please don't tell me I have no idea what I'm talking about. I chose atheism because of this.

Since: Jul 10

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#573132 Dec 13, 2012
ipi wrote:
<quoted text>
The Old Testament firmly states that if your child does not listen to you, or grant you the respect a parent should have, then you should take him to the out-lands and stone him to death..
Imagine that in modern society!
Oh wait... stoning actually still DOES happen
That's true, but it has come to my attention that many devout people who follow the Bible 100% have still not stoned their disobedient children. Surely those parents are destined for the hottest place in that lake of fire.

Since: Sep 11

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#573133 Dec 13, 2012
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Excellent.
I tip my hat to you.
*tips hat*

Have you ever heard the story of the emperor's new clothes, by hans christian anderson? I think it might be relevant here.

Since: Sep 11

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#573134 Dec 13, 2012
ipi wrote:
<quoted text>
The Old Testament firmly states that if your child does not listen to you, or grant you the respect a parent should have, then you should take him to the out-lands and stone him to death..
Imagine that in modern society!
Oh wait... stoning actually still DOES happen
Truly - the good old days, indeed.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#573135 Dec 13, 2012
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
What about me, nano?
Do I not rise to the level of a condescending, know-it-all pryck?
I'm feeling neglected.
So'm I.

*snif*

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#573136 Dec 13, 2012
Just Results wrote:
<quoted text>
I can see now why you are going to Hell to burn forever and ever. Trust me, I do look for ways to see your way out of that demise, but you just keep on proving why you deserve the punishment you'll receive. I give up now on justifying an exit plan for you.
But you will be nothing but a flash in the pan.

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#573137 Dec 13, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Lol. God creates humans, gives them free will, surrounds them with temptations, and bases salvation around belief while withholding all evidence of his existence - and then punishes his creations for behaving exactly how he knew they would. Sounds legit.
In his image and all , so I surmise he must be a very flawed being
and tells lies!

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#573138 Dec 13, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>I eat babies.
Chicken abortions?

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#573139 Dec 13, 2012
Baby back ribs )>

Since: Jul 09

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#573140 Dec 13, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Wait a tic!
How is a lack of evidence considered substaniated by archaeology?
it waS not were the book said and it was not other places either it was in fact not anywhere

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#573141 Dec 13, 2012
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>Ahem...I said "many", which may be a little bit of an exaggeration, still...
I'm sure there are quite a few men that never get good at it no matter how much they practice. Some are just naturals or maybe they simply try harder?
Are you talking tantric?

Since: Jul 09

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#573142 Dec 13, 2012
God Himself wrote:
<quoted text>
What an interesting question!!!!!!!
A breakthrough for anyone who might be trying to "convert" you (I assure you, I am no such person).
If you can believe the big bang "out of nothing"; why cant you believe the existence of God, who created Himself "out of nothing"?
Is it intellectual bias or just plain hatred for anything that even slightly involves God?
your imaginary god does not bother me one way or the other

I mean, it is silly, but you are welcome to it.

where the objection lies, is the behaviour of those who adopt belief in these vile philosophies.

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