Prove there's a god.

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“I'm not Religious ”

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Dec 11, 2012
 
Aura Mytha wrote:
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No but that's why I invented Omega 13.
Tide: activate the Omega 13
Duncan: the omega 13 has been activated
Jason: Omega 13 is up and running. Head for the hills folks!......

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#572297
Dec 11, 2012
 
God Himself wrote:
What you seem to be asking is that God impress Himself upon your or their consciousnesses.
Don't you Christians tell us that your god wants to be known and loved very much? If so, it was extremely shrewd of such a god to go into hiding, give man the faculty of reason and doubt, fail to answer prayer whenever it is studied scientifically, write a bad bible, and stock the world with stratified fossils and nested hierarchies of molecular and anatomical structures.
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But if He did that, then you would not have reached knowledge by force and not by reason; and that is little different from oppression.
Your thinking is inscrutable to me. This reasoning is so tortured as to be unintelligible. Oppression is hiding from me, and then sending me to hell for being fooled.
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One can lead a horse to water; but he cannot force that horse to drink. He can use things to communicate to you, but if you don't decide to listen, you don't have to hear Him Speak.
A second ago, I was told that being shown your god would be oppressive. Apparently, that was expedient then.

Now, you depict the god as being as obvious as water to a horse dragged to a watering hole so that you can blame me for not accepting the claim that it exists. That's expedient now.

Typical for apologetics.

"When the philosopher's argument becomes tedious, complicated, and opaque, it is usually a sign that he is attempting to prove as true to the intellect what is plainly false to common sense”- Edward Abbey
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Dec 11, 2012
 
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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No, just 76% of us are Christian.
Sorry, America is a Christian nation, with secular laws.
~~~ grins ~~~
America is NOT a "Christian nation". The Founding Fathers believed in a "god" NOT "the Christian god".
If there was a "god" why would he just be Christian? That sounds more like an idol than a real "god".
If we were a "Christian Nation" we would NOT be lighting the National Menorah for Hanukkah (a Jewish holiday).
And don't call it a "Judeo-Christian" nation either, there are too many Christians here that hate Jews.

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Dec 11, 2012
 
polymath257 wrote:
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Not at all. I am very aware of singularities, black holes, and other things that would shock you about the real world. but there *are* negative arguments in science and it does, in fact, work quite well. For example, you are able to use a computer because of our understanding of science.
GASP! embrace the wave!

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Dec 11, 2012
 
Sharkey wrote:
<quoted text>Not really. Most people are "altruistic" so THEY can look good. Their "altruism" really isn't for the reciever, it's only to assuage the GIVER's own guilty consience.
People can APPEAR "altruistic" but that's all it is - an APPEARANCE. A mask. A fake.
Most people are PHONIES.
Calm down there Holden Caulfield.
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Dec 11, 2012
 
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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awww......
I thought I was the worthierest of your time.
Yup. A day is a day is a day - to humans....
Yes, to humans living in the real world and not in fantasyland.
Now it's time for you to come back down to this real world and join the rest of the humans.

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Dec 11, 2012
 
waaasssuuup wrote:
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why am i talking to someone who's great concern is to be able to view penis' in public restrooms???
I am busy tonight

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Dec 11, 2012
 
Somali Pirate wrote:
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God dam it my last reply to you troll.....
We do know how and why evolution occurs. Google average human height. Why are whites from Europe blacks from Africa......
God only made 2 people..... Your bible proves evolution. He did not make 2 whites 2 blacks 2 Indians 2........
Organisms change EVOLVE and adapt over time.
You skipped over the part about all life coming from one organism...

You athitards always do.

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All that meaningfulness means nothing WHEN the certain scale of space and time is ended. Your life is meaninglessly meaningful. I get it. By the way, in light of scientific fact that you provided, all that meaning you speak of is pure philosophy and "pipe dreaming". Science proves/supports my claim that your existence is meaningless, eventually futile. Science itself agrees with me that your existence is meaningless.
You seem frustrated. You seem committed to calling the lives of those who won't validate your choices meaningless.

As I've said, your philosophy is not appealing at all. It's not healthy. It's dead on a cross.

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Implication is local; meaning is both local and global.
One thing can MEAN countless things in countless places; but one thing will only have a limited number of IMPLICATIONS.
Meaning has no rational significance without a mind to comprehend it; so while nothing nor anyone will exist in the distant future (that you speculate of), all meanings is lost in time.

Are you on the Jamaican Bobsled team or something?

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#572306
Dec 11, 2012
 
Clementia wrote:
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That's better!:-)
You don't know how lucky you are, coz once i turn green, that's it.
I just like the singing and dancing, I understand if that's not your cup of tea.
You know, howcome Hulks shorts don't come off when he changes??
I'm thinking he wears stretch pants.

Do you want them to come off? Hmmmm?

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#572307
Dec 11, 2012
 
Clementia wrote:
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Is it coz you r men, that's why u don't like grease? maybe it's coz u r old too??
Grease came out when I was a teen, darling. It was made in my time. I was more into movies like Star Wars, not chick-flick sing-along movies.

Another reason why I hate Grease, my ex-wife lives it.

Any happily divorced guys out there can testify to that.

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#572308
Dec 11, 2012
 
Al Garcia wrote:
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I never said time does not exist.
Then you need to buy a meter, I can sell you one Cheap :).

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Dec 11, 2012
 
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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That's called special pleading. Everything else is subject to laws that you need to have apply to justify your god's, including the universe itself, except your god, who you also need to have excused from these laws. If those rules are valid, then let it be the singularity or the multiverse that needs no cause.
From Pat Condell:
"Faith-peddlers like to put themselves beyond question by claiming that their faith transcends reason, the very thing that calls it to account. How convenient. Yes, faith transcends reason the way a criminal transcends the law.
"The word "transcendent" is very popular with religious hustlers because they never have to explain precisely what they mean by it, other than some vague superior state of understanding more profound than mere reason, which is crude and simplistic next to the subtleties and profundities of belief without evidence.
"If you hear a senior clergyman (and you will) using the word “transcendent" to explain the nonsense he claims to believe, then you know two things: one: he doesn't know what he's talking about, and two: he doesn't want you to know what he's talking about either."
You're a poster child for atheism indoctrination.

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#572310
Dec 11, 2012
 
JOEL wrote:
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i don't believe in an extra-cosmic, anthropomorphic, creationist deity.
well there is one god upon whom we agree

is there other gods you do not believe in?

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Dec 11, 2012
 
Somali Pirate wrote:
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So if time exists then either god knows the future or he is powerless to change it.....
Just think man you can't win this. It is not possible to be both. You can't be in 2 places at 1 time.
God can't be omniscient and omnipotent. It defies logic and the entire concept of the words and ideas. You need new words, ideas, or gods.
Of course God knows the future, but He wouldn't consider it "future".

Past, present & future are all the same to God. All happening at once, but all happening separately...

God can be and IS omniscient and omnipotent, humans can't be.

You're still applying human limitations to God, you know.

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Dec 11, 2012
 
JOEL wrote:
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So, what happens to the basal consciousness-energy field? Does it get dissolved into nothing?
Consciousness-energy can neither be created nor destroyed.
The unified field of consciousness-energy can manifest as a series of gradations ranging from subtle to gross.
oh I agree

you build a new god, surely you are correct.

no one has ever thought to build a new god before.

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#572313
Dec 11, 2012
 
Sharkey wrote:
<quoted text>Wait a minute.
You say "it's metaphorical" ...but vehemently insist they must "follow the rules or go to hell"?
Is the bible LITERAL, or METAPHORAL?
Metophorical "rules" are unfollowable.
"Tace of" the water means surface. Thus, rises the belief that "Jesus can walk on water" for those who believe Jesus is "god". Some religious people believe in this, RR, and they will call you a blasphemer if you don't toe their "God walking on water" line. It's one of "Jesus' Miracles".
For starters, newbie, not all of the bible is metaphorical. Lets just get that our right now.

And why are you willing to accept that "face of the waters" is a metaphor but "day" is not?

Sounds like you've perfected your cherry picking technique.
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Dec 11, 2012
 
God Himself wrote:
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Lets see:
Do all persons respond to the same influences in the same way?
Do all persons experience the same things to the same degrees?
How is it that everyone can taste ice cream without agreeing that a particular flavour is the best; all of them having a different experience/perception of the same thing?
I will leave you to attempt to answer your own question now; because no suggestion put forward to you seems to make sense to you except your own.
You can answer these questions yourself, too, and maybe (a BIG maybe) you'll get some perspective.

But I don't hold out much hope for someone that wants to call himself "god". A person like you has already crossed the crazy bridge into BALALALALALALALALALALand!

Let's take your ice cream exampl: If ice cream can have so many different flavors, why can't "god"?
After all, we can say "we believe in god" but confict begins if it's the "wrong" god (different from somebody else's "god").

But humans don't go to war and kill people over ice cream, like they do over the idea of a "god", do they?
No.

Dude, you're not even making sense to yourself.
No wonder your crazy @ss is locked up! It's where you belong!

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Dec 11, 2012
 
Al Garcia wrote:
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In God's Universe he makes the rules. Not the other way around. God is not restricted to our understanding of the rules of the universe.
I agree, but when did u start believing in God?

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