Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#572413 Dec 12, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>
6 AM, PBJ time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Z3ZAGBL6UBAXX
Elvis gave me the recipe and her phone number :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#572414 Dec 12, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>
6 AM, PBJ time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Z3ZAGBL6UBAXX
I'm not clicking that.
Greens - Tuf

Sydney, Australia

#572415 Dec 12, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
No. Neither is a metaphor. From http://www.thefreedictionary.com/face :
Face - 8. The most significant or prominent surface of an object, especially:
a. The surface presented to view; the front.
b. A fašade.
c. Outer surface: the face of the earth.
"She is the apple of my eye" is a metaphor. Eyes don't have an apple. The water has a face, just like a building and a clock.
Look at that. There's clues everywhere if your good enough.
"She is the apple of my eye" What does that mean?
It means extreme love. It means protection .
Adam and Eve eating an apple represents the separation

from One and entering a material world. I world where we are all guaranteed death .
It is just a cycle of energy (us) creating worlds of illusion to bring out the emotions in us.
Emotions = Energy

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#572416 Dec 12, 2012
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
Elvis gave me the recipe and her phone number :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =sXcYiWkOMMoXX
Lucky. I haven't even met one of the fake Elvises.
Greens - Tuf

Australia

#572417 Dec 12, 2012
Why would there be a God in the first place? Why?
Who said there has to be a God?
Why would God need this "real" world if he really was God? Why go through all the trouble for us? What's his payback? Remember life is variable, if your happy than somewhere somebody will be sad.
For every cause their must be an effect, we are a cause, what's our effect?

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#572418 Dec 12, 2012
scaritual wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not clicking that.
It's just penguins engaging in mating rituals.

You know they're manogmanous monologomoss...

they don't sleep around.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#572419 Dec 12, 2012
Greens - Tuf wrote:
Physical world ? Don't you mean material world, which is a world of illusion.
The two phrases are used more or less interchangeably. Materialism, physicalism and naturalism are roughly synonymous as well:

[1] Materialism - the doctrine that nothing exists except matter and its movements and modifications.

[2] Physicalism - the doctrine that the real world consists simply of the physical world.

[3] Naturalism - the doctrine that scientific laws are adequate to account for all phenomena

I prefer to refer to naturalism and the physical world rather than the material world or materialism for a few reasons:

For one, the physical world comprises more than matter/energy. There is also force, form, space and time, which are all in a sense aspects of matter, but not implied by the word materialism.

Also, the word materialism has been derogated by both by the Christians and Marx (dialectical materialism).

Have you seen the Wedge Document leaked from the Discovery Institute announcing its intention to "defeat scientific materialism and its destructive moral, cultural, and political legacies" and to "reverse the stifling materialist world view and replace it with a science consonant with Christian and theistic convictions"?

These Christians also declaimed, "materialist reformers [who] advocated coercive government programs" which it referred to as "a virulent strain of utopianism."

That sounds like they are conflating philosophical naturalism with Marxism. If their purpose was to demean the word, they have succeeded. Where the Christian have shit, I generally steer clear.

Hope that helps.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#572420 Dec 12, 2012
Greens - Tuf wrote:
Why would there be a God in the first place?
Tell me.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#572421 Dec 12, 2012
River Tam wrote:
lesbians. We take a lickin but we keep on tickin.
LOL. You're a hoot. I saw your scissor and cooch posts as well.

I'm sure you'll keep them coming.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#572422 Dec 12, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>
Lucky. I haven't even met one of the fake Elvises.
Not even this guy?

Dollywood, 2009

Greens - Tuf

Australia

#572423 Dec 12, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
The two phrases are used more or less interchangeably. Materialism, physicalism and naturalism are roughly synonymous as well:
[1] Materialism - the doctrine that nothing exists except matter and its movements and modifications.
[2] Physicalism - the doctrine that the real world consists simply of the physical world.
[3] Naturalism - the doctrine that scientific laws are adequate to account for all phenomena
I prefer to refer to naturalism and the physical world rather than the material world or materialism for a few reasons:
For one, the physical world comprises more than matter/energy. There is also force, form, space and time, which are all in a sense aspects of matter, but not implied by the word materialism.
Also, the word materialism has been derogated by both by the Christians and Marx (dialectical materialism).
Have you seen the Wedge Document leaked from the Discovery Institute announcing its intention to "defeat scientific materialism and its destructive moral, cultural, and political legacies" and to "reverse the stifling materialist world view and replace it with a science consonant with Christian and theistic convictions"?
These Christians also declaimed, "materialist reformers [who] advocated coercive government programs" which it referred to as "a virulent strain of utopianism."
That sounds like they are conflating philosophical naturalism with Marxism. If their purpose was to demean the word, they have succeeded. Where the Christian have shit, I generally steer clear.
Hope that helps.
Thanking you.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#572424 Dec 12, 2012
Greens - Tuf wrote:
Look at that. There's clues everywhere if your good enough.

"She is the apple of my eye" What does that mean? It means extreme love. It means protection .

Adam and Eve eating an apple represents the separation
from One and entering a material world. I world where we are all guaranteed death . It is just a cycle of energy (us) creating worlds of illusion to bring out the emotions in us. Emotions = Energy
Sorry, amigo, but that is nonsense to me.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#572425 Dec 12, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL. You're a hoot. I saw your scissor and cooch posts as well.
I'm sure you'll keep them coming.
We like River.

In an avuncular sort of way, of course.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#572426 Dec 12, 2012
Greens - Tuf wrote:
Thanking you.
You're very welcome.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#572427 Dec 12, 2012
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>We like River.
In an avuncular sort of way, of course.
River Tam

JOEL

Mumbai, India

#572428 Dec 12, 2012
karl44 wrote:
<quoted text>

well there is one god upon whom we agree

is there other gods you do not believe in?
What is the proof of this one god?

To begin with how is he causally connected with the universe?

How did he create this universe from nothing?

How does he govern the universe in the absence of a causal link between this extra-cosmic deity and the universe?

If this god is spirit then what is spirit in terms of its material and force composition?

Spirit is not mind as someone suggested.

Mind is a grade - the deductive aspect - of the manifested unified field of consciousness-energy.

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#572429 Dec 12, 2012
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>Indeed! Hiding can stop by anytime! So can you!
:-)
Ah, thank you!

omw.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#572430 Dec 12, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL. You're a hoot. I saw your scissor and cooch posts as well.
I'm sure you'll keep them coming.
Stop feeding my troll and I'll keep entertaining you.

He's my troll. It's why I'm here.

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#572431 Dec 12, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok..... Now you're comparing belief in Jesus to a child believing in Santa.
You're lost.
The only difference between belief in Santa and Jesus is that most adults acknowledge that the former is a lie told only to children.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#572432 Dec 12, 2012
karl44 wrote:
<quoted text>

oh I agree

you build a new god, surely you are correct.

no one has ever thought to build a new god before.
So, how is the basal consciousness and energy created from nothing by your extra-cosmic and creationist god and besides what happens to the basal consciousness-energy field at the end of a cosmic cycle? Does it get dissolved into nothing? How?

(smiles)

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