“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#572407 Dec 12, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
why are you willing to accept that "face of the waters" is a metaphor but "day" is not?
No. Neither is a metaphor. From http://www.thefreedictionary.com/face :

Face - 8. The most significant or prominent surface of an object, especially:
a. The surface presented to view; the front.
b. A fašade.
c. Outer surface: the face of the earth.

"She is the apple of my eye" is a metaphor. Eyes don't have an apple. The water has a face, just like a building and a clock.

Since: Oct 10

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#572408 Dec 12, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
"With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day." - 2 Peter 3:8
Your god has difficulty with time, doesn't he?
He didn't have a watch. That came on the eighth day when he realized that we need lesbians. We take a lickin but we keep on tickin.

Oh crap, what time is it?

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#572409 Dec 12, 2012
Greens - Tuf wrote:
<quoted text>Physical world ?
The one beyond your eyelids.

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#572410 Dec 12, 2012
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
He didn't have a watch. That came on the eighth day when he realized that we need lesbians. We take a lickin but we keep on tickin.
Oh crap, what time is it?
6 AM, PBJ time.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#572411 Dec 12, 2012
Huh wrote:
Please, do tell. Line by line. Which parts are allegorical, which are metaphorical, and which are literal. Surely you must have the latest Chinese-made decoder ring. After all, you just spoke for and described the god you said was indescribable.
I'll wait. And wait. And wait.
Idea!

I've often thought that Bibles should be treated like the movie The Wizard of Oz. Recall that reality, which was set in Kansas, and which appeared on screen only at the beginning and end of the movie, was filmed in black and white, whereas the fantasy world of Dorothy's dream of Oz while she was unconsciousness from the tornado was shot in color.

Couldn't we have Bible's like that? When we're in fantasy mode, like with the talking snake and the six days of creation, the printing could be in color to tell us that they were just kidding.

But when they got to the factual parts - the drop dead serious stuff such as the parts about zombies rising from the dead, for example - it would be in black and white.

Helpful idea or not?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#572412 Dec 12, 2012
karl44 wrote:
It is difficult to understand the motivation for denial of this passage [about the six days of creation in Genesis].
I'm sure that you understand the motivation. They claim that a perfect god authored both the universe and their bible, and science has shown that the two don't match. What are the options?

[1] They can admit that their god doesn't exist and abandon their faith.

[2] They can deny the science.

[3] Or they can say that the bible doesn't mean what the words say.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#572413 Dec 12, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>
6 AM, PBJ time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Z3ZAGBL6UBAXX
Elvis gave me the recipe and her phone number :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#572414 Dec 12, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>
6 AM, PBJ time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Z3ZAGBL6UBAXX
I'm not clicking that.
Greens - Tuf

Sydney, Australia

#572415 Dec 12, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
No. Neither is a metaphor. From http://www.thefreedictionary.com/face :
Face - 8. The most significant or prominent surface of an object, especially:
a. The surface presented to view; the front.
b. A fašade.
c. Outer surface: the face of the earth.
"She is the apple of my eye" is a metaphor. Eyes don't have an apple. The water has a face, just like a building and a clock.
Look at that. There's clues everywhere if your good enough.
"She is the apple of my eye" What does that mean?
It means extreme love. It means protection .
Adam and Eve eating an apple represents the separation

from One and entering a material world. I world where we are all guaranteed death .
It is just a cycle of energy (us) creating worlds of illusion to bring out the emotions in us.
Emotions = Energy

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#572416 Dec 12, 2012
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
Elvis gave me the recipe and her phone number :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =sXcYiWkOMMoXX
Lucky. I haven't even met one of the fake Elvises.
Greens - Tuf

Australia

#572417 Dec 12, 2012
Why would there be a God in the first place? Why?
Who said there has to be a God?
Why would God need this "real" world if he really was God? Why go through all the trouble for us? What's his payback? Remember life is variable, if your happy than somewhere somebody will be sad.
For every cause their must be an effect, we are a cause, what's our effect?

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#572418 Dec 12, 2012
scaritual wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not clicking that.
It's just penguins engaging in mating rituals.

You know they're manogmanous monologomoss...

they don't sleep around.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#572419 Dec 12, 2012
Greens - Tuf wrote:
Physical world ? Don't you mean material world, which is a world of illusion.
The two phrases are used more or less interchangeably. Materialism, physicalism and naturalism are roughly synonymous as well:

[1] Materialism - the doctrine that nothing exists except matter and its movements and modifications.

[2] Physicalism - the doctrine that the real world consists simply of the physical world.

[3] Naturalism - the doctrine that scientific laws are adequate to account for all phenomena

I prefer to refer to naturalism and the physical world rather than the material world or materialism for a few reasons:

For one, the physical world comprises more than matter/energy. There is also force, form, space and time, which are all in a sense aspects of matter, but not implied by the word materialism.

Also, the word materialism has been derogated by both by the Christians and Marx (dialectical materialism).

Have you seen the Wedge Document leaked from the Discovery Institute announcing its intention to "defeat scientific materialism and its destructive moral, cultural, and political legacies" and to "reverse the stifling materialist world view and replace it with a science consonant with Christian and theistic convictions"?

These Christians also declaimed, "materialist reformers [who] advocated coercive government programs" which it referred to as "a virulent strain of utopianism."

That sounds like they are conflating philosophical naturalism with Marxism. If their purpose was to demean the word, they have succeeded. Where the Christian have shit, I generally steer clear.

Hope that helps.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#572420 Dec 12, 2012
Greens - Tuf wrote:
Why would there be a God in the first place?
Tell me.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#572421 Dec 12, 2012
River Tam wrote:
lesbians. We take a lickin but we keep on tickin.
LOL. You're a hoot. I saw your scissor and cooch posts as well.

I'm sure you'll keep them coming.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#572422 Dec 12, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>
Lucky. I haven't even met one of the fake Elvises.
Not even this guy?

Dollywood, 2009

Greens - Tuf

Australia

#572423 Dec 12, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
The two phrases are used more or less interchangeably. Materialism, physicalism and naturalism are roughly synonymous as well:
[1] Materialism - the doctrine that nothing exists except matter and its movements and modifications.
[2] Physicalism - the doctrine that the real world consists simply of the physical world.
[3] Naturalism - the doctrine that scientific laws are adequate to account for all phenomena
I prefer to refer to naturalism and the physical world rather than the material world or materialism for a few reasons:
For one, the physical world comprises more than matter/energy. There is also force, form, space and time, which are all in a sense aspects of matter, but not implied by the word materialism.
Also, the word materialism has been derogated by both by the Christians and Marx (dialectical materialism).
Have you seen the Wedge Document leaked from the Discovery Institute announcing its intention to "defeat scientific materialism and its destructive moral, cultural, and political legacies" and to "reverse the stifling materialist world view and replace it with a science consonant with Christian and theistic convictions"?
These Christians also declaimed, "materialist reformers [who] advocated coercive government programs" which it referred to as "a virulent strain of utopianism."
That sounds like they are conflating philosophical naturalism with Marxism. If their purpose was to demean the word, they have succeeded. Where the Christian have shit, I generally steer clear.
Hope that helps.
Thanking you.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#572424 Dec 12, 2012
Greens - Tuf wrote:
Look at that. There's clues everywhere if your good enough.

"She is the apple of my eye" What does that mean? It means extreme love. It means protection .

Adam and Eve eating an apple represents the separation
from One and entering a material world. I world where we are all guaranteed death . It is just a cycle of energy (us) creating worlds of illusion to bring out the emotions in us. Emotions = Energy
Sorry, amigo, but that is nonsense to me.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#572425 Dec 12, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL. You're a hoot. I saw your scissor and cooch posts as well.
I'm sure you'll keep them coming.
We like River.

In an avuncular sort of way, of course.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#572426 Dec 12, 2012
Greens - Tuf wrote:
Thanking you.
You're very welcome.

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