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#572056
Dec 11, 2012
 
JOEL wrote:
MUSINGS:
1) Cause should be at least a great as the effect in terms of information content.
2) Effect is nothing else but the cause in partial or complete manifestation.
3) Creation from nothing is a falsehood.
you have created this philosophy, whole cloth, from nothing.

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Positive thinking gives you positive energy. If you finding god others then you wrongs. People should see the god in others and our self too.
people need to display the god qualities they harbor.

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God Himself wrote:
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No.
You demonstrate illiteracy.
Have you not read the analogies I used?
I am trying to say that what you see or how you perceive is relative to your position, and more often than not, your disposition also.
I am saying that whatever can do all things, will be whatever you want it to be. While God is that which is Omnipotent, He has all potentials that one attributes to Him; good, bad, ugly, creative, destructive...
Can you reason?
Can you exercise critical thinking?
Does the fact that electrons only appear as particles when they are observed (please refer to double slit experiment) mean they are anything you decide they are or imagine them to be?
are the attributes of the god the same for all who perceive him, or are the attributes of the god unique to each person who perceives the god?

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I tend to agree.
Quantum physics reveals that entities which are basic building blocks of the natural world such as electrons, are responsive to thoughts.
Therefore they may have been influenced to form structures by a type of mental process; it may also suggest that the universe itself is a type of mind on another level.
that is a trivial understanding,

and one driven by confirmation bias

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Dec 11, 2012
 
Greens - Tuf wrote:
OK so now we have contact.
Our two hearts have come together. Now as non destructive energy it will not destroy it self, it will create standing points between both hearts and it will separate,the energy has time to think , so it separates and becomes a particle. A nest is formed between both hearts and the energy from both vortexes (hearts) pours in infinitly.
Inside this nest is the starting point for particles, this is where the atom is made.
And it is nothing but energy.
you should write a book
start a religion
collect tithes

run from the men behind you with the nets

“Michin yeoja”

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quit
at +/- 5*10^-6
I was thinking of a donut.

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Dec 11, 2012
 
JOEL wrote:
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NOTHING cannot be defined and it does not exist except as a meaningless word.
A) Outer space contains photons, dark matter/energy (?) and weak gravitational forces.
B) We always think in terms of something.
C) Consciousness and its innate energy component - the basis of the universe - can be reduced to subtle states but they can neither be created nor destroyed and so they cannot be reduced to nothing.
if you took a container, and removed from it all energies, and added your god,

that would be nothing

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#572063
Dec 11, 2012
 
JOEL wrote:
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So, how do you define nothing?
the absence of everything

you did just define everything did you not?

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Tide with Beach wrote:
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Fallacies in this post brought to you by Kellogg's Crusty Flakes.
Argument from ignorance.
Appeal to popularity.
Ad hominem.
oh there's nothing popular with this world about being close with God even around 'church folk', pal, just try it once. you're the coward who's living in faux/temporary safety.

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Dec 11, 2012
 
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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I don't think you need to worry about that.
As I said, your top ten list sucks, and all you can think of when told so is moving away from any source of criticism. You're well trained.
You seem to think that your list is godlike. I consider it less than humane. I can think of many things more deserving of a spot on the ten most important rules of behavior than honoring your parents and taking Sunday off. How about a nod to personal integrity - things like loyalty? Or courage? Or responsibility? Or compassion? Or justice? Or democracy? Or personal freedom?
None of them made your list. Instead,'honor your parents' did, whatever that means. Obey them? Throw them an awards banquet?
And take a day a week off made the list, I guess so you'll remember to come on in once a week with your wallet and get you a heaping helping of indoctrination. Why else would that be on the priests list of things you're commanded to do?
And of course a full forty percent - the first four of ten - are devoted to that infinite black hole of need, Jehovah. I don't see anything admirable there at all.
And you're afraid to live near me? You've got it backwards. We can build better neighbors than this.
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But I loved my mother! And I take every Sunday off! And I never worship a graven image! How can I be bad?
Seriously, though - thanks for stepping up to the podium and showing us another example of your church's handiwork - another example of the people-making prowess of the people that bring you Jehovah-Jesus every week. Jesus is the potter.
"I consider it less than humane"

****newsflash*****

the "humane" is fallen and has been corrupted! just read your papers and look at yourselves! that's why Jesus said "unless you're born again you shall not see the Kingdom of Heaven"

you can trample around on this world for a bit longer, but you won't be able to drag your muck through Heaven.

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#572066
Dec 11, 2012
 
Well thought there couldn't be a god then read the comment on nothing and that got me thinking...

Nothing is not really possible, at least not so far as we have been able to perceive in our universe even space is full of forces so what may in a snapshot of time seem like nothing is actually full of something we barely yet understand.

So that proves that god exists.... I think..... If we don't understand it it must be God yeah??

Just like how the sun used to be a god, now its just a star.........

Oh think i may have proved myself wrong again, ok so there definitely isn't a god.... But then where do doughnuts come from...... So tasty!!!

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#572067
Dec 11, 2012
 
Huh wrote:
<quoted text>Self-fulfilled prophecy and an argument from popularity are both logical fallacies, moron.
The inspiration of the Bible depends upon the ignorance of the gentleman who reads it.
-- Robert Green Ingersoll, speech (1881), quoted from Jonathon Green, The Cassell Dictionary of Cynical Quotations
Is there an intelligent man or woman now in the world who believes in the Garden of Eden story? If you find any man who believes it, strike his forehead and you will hear an echo. Something is for rent.
-- Robert Green Ingersoll, "Orthodoxy" (1884)
why should i give a rats ass about what bobbie green ass says when i have the Bible and what holy men of old say???

don't run with the 'they say' crowd cuz history shows that the immoral majority are always wrong:)

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Dec 11, 2012
 
waaasssuuup wrote:
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"I consider it less than humane"
****newsflash*****
the "humane" is fallen and has been corrupted! just read your papers and look at yourselves! that's why Jesus said "unless you're born again you shall not see the Kingdom of Heaven"
you can trample around on this world for a bit longer, but you won't be able to drag your muck through Heaven.
Damn think I must have just wasted my money on that heavenly muck spreader....

I knew the salesman in the dealership didn't seem quite right. ;-)

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Dec 11, 2012
 
KittenKoder wrote:
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The first five are nothing but your god's vanity, so his statement is perfectly logical, it also does not mean he condones breaking the law or behaving against the species, that is what your doctrine justifies though. The ten commandments are actually "obey these unless you are doing it in the name of your god."
dear kitty, God's right to His creation is only "vanity" to you because it sharply conflicts with your own.

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#572070
Dec 11, 2012
 
Lady Derringer wrote:
Three Questions:
1.) Someone at a party over the weekend (almost caused WW3)was saying there was someone before God. They said it was on You-Tube. Has anyone else heard this rumour?
2.) Muslims believe that Jesus Christ was a prophet and not the son of God.
3.) Doesn't the Christian's and Muslim's main belief contradict each other in a way?
1 - sure....believe the you-tube; after all, it's been around before 'the beginning'!
2 - islam was formed in about 500 AD as a ploy to unite the arab nations in their shared bigotry against Israel. why would you respect anything the quaran says???
3 - yes - in a huge way!

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Lady Derringer wrote:
<quoted text>The Bible and lesbians are comparing apples to oranges. Even the LDS Church is backpedaling on their gay stance. They have a website at www.mormonsandgays.org . Their postion is that is only a sin if one acts on same sex attraction. I have a feeling that soo the prophets will have a "revelation" thta it is OK to act on it in the near future in much the same way the LDS Church had a revelation that it was finally OK to give membership and the priesthood to Blacks. This was conveniently after the LDS Church was told that their non-profit status would be pulled if they did not allow Blacks in. I have a feeling the Government will cause another revelation soon.
as a 'Christian', i'm not against sinners, homosexual or otherwise. i am, however against destructive and demoralizing behavior; aka sin including homosexuality.

it's the demon possesed homosexual agenda that's waging war against the Body of Christ, of which i'm a member and therefore caught in this epic battle between good & evil:)

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karl44 wrote:
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is this a hint
can we begin to deduce
who posts as the name changing hate troll
why am i talking to someone who's great concern is to be able to view penis' in public restrooms???

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#572073
Dec 11, 2012
 
Clementia wrote:
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You can make up your own mind, it's these guys;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =XPpTgCho5ZAXX
Thanks. I didn't mind the nude shots on the video effects. The instrumental parts I couldn't listen to very long. The voice is not bad, but the style of music doesn't attract me that much. If I had a choice between that and rap, then I would pick that. Rap I wouldn't listen, to as much of it isn't music anyway, but just some guy/girl, who can't sing, speaking words and a lot of noise in the background.

Now what do you think of Ken Curtis, Festus from Gunsmoke, and star of Ripcord - replaced Frank Sinatra on Tommy Dorsey for a few years? Try actor Ned Beatty. So far you haven't recognized any of those names, right, and the tv shows were before you were born.

Roger Whittaker, Gordon Lightfoot *, Anne Murray, Johnny Cash, Jim Reeves, Stompin Tom Connors *, Hank Williams Sr, some Elvis Presley, some Beatles, Charley Pride *, Harry Belafonte *, John McDermott *(saw him in concert with Nana Mouskouri), 3 Tenors (one now dead), Strauss, Mozart, and most of the other old classical but not opera.

* I have seen in concert.

Jim Reeves would be my overall favorite of the above.

Two other world famous Canadians, Celine Dion - like some of hers; Shania Twain (probably haven't heard much of her but she is cute. My brother lived with her 1st cousin for a few years, and I think met her a at a relative's funeral)

Now one of the biggest music stars today, who was raised in a town not far from where I lived for a number of years, and I have been there many times, is Justin Bieber, but I haven't heard his singing, and probably would not be interested in it.

I am definitely not 'with it', right?

I was to a Rolling Stones concert in 2005, which was phenomenal, but I would not likely have gone across the street to see them otherwise, but my spouse at the time wanted to go, and they put on an amazing show with great effects. I think mainly what capture me was the two old guys who have abused themselves all their lives could still put on a show, and Mick Jagger never stopped running across the stage for the entire performance.
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#572074
Dec 11, 2012
 
youtube.com/watch... …Well?
God at Work?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

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#572075
Dec 11, 2012
 
Huh wrote:
<quoted text>The next time believers tell you that "separation of church and state" does not appear in our founding document, tell them to stop using the word "trinity." The word "trinity" appears nowhere in the bible. Neither does Rapture, or Second Coming, or Original Sin. If they are still unfazed (or unphrased) by this, then add Omniscience ...[edited for space]... Decalogue, or Bible.- Dan Barker
Excellent. Thanks. It was added to my growing list of quotables from Barker, which I can offer you in exchange:

"Truth does not demand belief. Scientists do not join hands every Sunday, singing, yes, gravity is real! I will have faith! I will be strong! I believe in my heart that what goes up, up, up must come down, down. down. Amen! If they did, we would think they were pretty insecure about it." – Dan Barker

“If the Prodigal Son is a parable, and Adam and Eve are metaphors, then maybe God is just figure of speech.”– Dan Barker

”The very concept of sin comes from the bible. Christianity offers to solve a problem of its own making! Would you be thankful to a person who cut you with a knife in order to sell you a bandage?”– Dan Barker

”How happy can you be when you think every action and thought is being monitored by a judgmental ghost?”– Dan Barker

”You can cite a hundred references to show that the biblical God is a bloodthirsty tyrant, but if they can dig up two or three verses that say God is love, they will claim that *you* are taking things out of context!”– Dan Barker

“I do understand what love is, and that is one of the reasons I can never again be a Christian. Love is not self denial. Love is not blood and suffering. Love is not murdering your son to appease your own vanity. Love is not hatred or wrath, consigning billions of people to eternal torture because they have offended your ego or disobeyed your rules. Love is not obedience, conformity, or submission. It is a counterfeit love that is contingent upon authority, punishment, or reward. True love is respect and admiration, compassion and kindness, freely given by a healthy, unafraid human being.”– Dan Barker

“I have something to say to the religionist who feels atheists never say anything positive: You are an intelligent human being. Your life is valuable for its own sake. You are not second-class in the universe, deriving meaning and purpose from some other mind. You are not inherently evil--you are inherently human, possessing the positive rational potential to help make this a world of morality, peace and joy. Trust yourself.”– Dan Barker

“Faith is the opposite of reason because reason imposes very strict limits on what can be true, and faith has no limits at all. A Great Escape into faith is no retreat to safety. It is nothing less than surrender.”– Dan Barker

“There are many gods which Christians reject. I just believe in one less god then they do. The reasons that you might give for your atheism toward the Roman gods are likely the same reasons I would give for not believing in Jesus.”– Dan Barker

”Look at the posture of prayer. It is the posture of slavery, of bowing before your master. We are a proudly rebellious country. We kicked out the master. Now here comes the government telling us to humbly bow again.”– Dan Barker

“Faith is a cop-out. It is intellectual bankruptcy. If the only way you can accept an assertion is by faith, then you are conceding that it can't be taken on its own merits.”– Dan Barker

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