Prove there's a god.

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Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#572391 Dec 12, 2012
God Himself wrote:
it is scientific principle that a science cannot be based on a negative.
Nonsense.

You probably should know that we don't take our scientific instruction from amateurs in science, most especially Christians ones. Your antiscientific agenda is well known.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#572392 Dec 12, 2012
Laconic Assassins wrote:
You simply point out how science constantly falls flat and fails.
Another science hater compliments of Jesus, Inc.

Your church selfishly attempts to undermine confidence in science at great cost to the nation. One way is by rendering it more vulnerable to the manufactured doubt industry that is helping to pave the way for catastrophic global warming despite the warnings of climate scientists.

"You stare into your high definition plasma screen monitor, type into your cordless keyboard then hit enter which causes your computer to convert all that visual data into a binary signal that’s processed by millions of precise circuits, which is then converted to a frequency modulated signal to reach you wireless router where it is then converted to light waves and sent along a large fiber optics cable to be processed by a super computer on a mass server which then sends that bit you typed to a satellite orbiting the earth that was put there through the greatest feats of engineering and science, all so it could go back through a similar pathway to make it all the way here to my computer monitor 15,000 miles away from you just so you could say,“Science is all a bunch of man made hogwash.”- anon.

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Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#572393 Dec 12, 2012
God Himself wrote:
You must be a fool.

You are an ass-hole.
Tell us more about that promised "peace that passeth all understanding" and those "fruits of the spirit." How can I tap into them, too?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#572394 Dec 12, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
choose which side of the homosexual and evolutionary war you're gonna fight for and then fight all the way, but don't think you can be accepted in both camps:)
The homosexual and evolutionary war? Is that like the French and Indian War?

Why is your church at war with gay people and science? In so doing, it makes itself a societal burden and an enemy to those of us who love people, harmony, and knowledge.

Your church is hateful and destructive. What does it offer us in return for that societal burden that we might be convinced to help you to preserve it rather than cheer its demise?

Since: Jul 11

Fremont, CA

#572395 Dec 12, 2012
I met GOD in ate 1981.He lived on Stella st.I was the manager of a garadge door Co.God had a goat that was his carpenter.His goat blew-up the new door and I put in a new one.When I was done he sent me across the street for two more new doors with oppeners.Hopefully he will read this as he is the only one who could verrify this other than me.

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Since: Dec 12

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#572396 Dec 12, 2012
stupid talk

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Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#572397 Dec 12, 2012
Al Garcia wrote:
I genuinely love people. All people. I genuinely love God. But somewhere in the middle is the struggle. I am being asked to choose sides. Keep one and discard the other. I'm being asked to place value on half my brothers and sisters and damn the others.
You've nicely summarized the divisiveness and warring that characterizes the church.

I wrote a post to you yesterday that I didn't send because I thought that it might be too hurtful to you. But I'll post it now, and hope that you understand :

==========
Al Garcia wrote:
If I may take this a just a step further Karl, is there a good Christian in your point of view, that can project a Good and loving God?
There are a lot of good Christians. They don't project a god to me, though. They project the human spirit unsullied by their religion.

Look at you - an excellent Christian. Why? In my opinion, it's because you have rejected more of Christianity than most other Christians. This was also true of Christian spiritual geniuses like John Spong and Alan Watts, both ordained Christians.

The most prominent aspects of the god your church projects is ugly. It's all about sin, blame, superstition, judgment, punishment, and the like. It usually manifests as lying, threats of damnation, attacks on science, endless revisionism, specious apologetics, and attacks on atheists and gays. Most of us are repulsed by that "god."

You reject that. You reject most of your religion as other Christians typically practice it, As a result, you are closer in spirit to what we are than to the typical Christian. This is why you are so well accepted by the skeptics and why your fellow Christians despise you. It's also why you're a better person than they are.

What I am saying is that the less you have to do with that church and its culture, the better a person you are.

==========

I was reluctant to tell you that what I like about your Christianity is that you reject so much of it - at least as it is actually rendered in America. It's an ugly religion, Al, at least as it is generally practiced in America. What makes you better is rejecting most of it.

Sorry, I don't like saying that to you.
Al Garcia wrote:
I firmly believe that -we must learn to live together as brothers or perish as fools. There is a right way to live together rather than dwell on adversity.
Other Christians are angry that you won't fight the Homosexual And Evolution Wars. Humanists support your choice.

Since: Jul 11

Fremont, CA

#572399 Dec 12, 2012
winfredable wrote:
stupid talk
You accually thought that the message was for you.

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Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#572400 Dec 12, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
The bible doesn't define what a day is to God, just that it's an indeterminate amount if time.
Apparently, you think that you need that to be true, so you hunker down and insist that it is. That's the kind of reality creation - spin -that characterizes religious thought.

"God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first day." - Genesis 1:5

This is why we don't let Christians tell us what their bible says, let alone what science is. You have no commitment to truth or reality.

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Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#572401 Dec 12, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Despite all your flag waving, you actually have a pretty low opinion of your country to make an allegation like that. You called two houses of Congress and the president cowards and liars to a man.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Where did I say they were cowards? You added that in, big boy.
Right here:

RiversideRedneck wrote: "Yes, they lied. They wanted peace above all, just like toady. They would've said anything to prevent another jihad."

You wrote that they lied about their beliefs - what would be among their most cherished beliefs if they had held them as you imply - rather than face a conflict. That is the definition of a coward. And a liar.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
They did lie. Sometimes it's necessary to lie in order to have peace. Especially when you're dealing with late 1700's Muslim pirates.....
I reject your values. You're what is unflatteringly called an appeaser.

I remember hearing that word levied at people like me in 2002-03, when we were protesting Bush's rush to his war of aggression. We were called cowards, traitors, appeasers, America haters and the aiders and abettors of terrorists.

What should we call somebody who advocates lies about his beliefs to avoid a conflict? What if they are representing a nation and doing it on a document that will be preserved for posterity? Whatever that is, that is what you are calling those people.

I don't think that that Congress and president were liars or cowards at all. I think that they wrote what they understood to be the truth.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#572402 Dec 12, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
An acceptable definition to anyone about evolution is that organisms evolve, but we don't know how or why and we sure as shit don't know that all life on this planet evolved from ONE single celled organism! but we don't know how or why ...
That's not an acceptable definition of either the process or the theory of (biological) evolution. It doesn't even come close.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
... and we sure as shit don't know that all life on this planet evolved from ONE single celled organism!
Actually, we do know that, even if you don't. The evidence is overwhelming.

I realize that you think that you need it to be otherwise, and so, for you it is.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
We also don't know how life even began on this planet, so your whine Darwinian theory is shot to shit.
Darwin's theory is unrelated to the pathway of abiogenesis.

As I just said, this kind of misinformation and lack of sophistication in matters of even basic science is why we don't take the objections about science from faith based sources seriously.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#572403 Dec 12, 2012
Laconic Assassins wrote:
Exactly what is gay friendly
It aint necessarily so wrote:
I can only tell you approximately. Roughly, it means that I treat my gay friends with respect rather than with harsh condemnation.
Somali Pirate wrote:
Sorry I don't feel like digging up her post.....
Whose post?
Somali Pirate wrote:
Gay friendly is not identifying someone as gay.
Thanks for the heads up.
Somali Pirate wrote:
Do you refer to straight people as straight the same way you refer to gay people as gay????
Yes. So do you, apparently. You just did.
Greens - Tuf

Kurnell, Australia

#572404 Dec 12, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Another science hater brought to you courtesy of Jesus, Inc.
No, science is NOT about fairness. It's about discovering the laws and other features of the physical world using a particular method.
<quoted text>
I wouldn't care if there were a historical Jesus. How would that matter to me? That only matters to somebody who insists that a magic man named Jesus actually existed. And actual Jesus does nothing at all for that claim any more than an actual Jerusalem, Pilate and Rome do.
Physical world ? Don't you mean material world, which is a world of illusion.
I think god done a great job in confusing 90% of the human race. You have no idea, not that you should have any idea. That's the whole idea of it. If you knew your cause than I can guarantee you that the Universe would not be still expanding. It would of collapsed in on it self long ago.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#572405 Dec 12, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
You're a poster child for atheism indoctrination.
I'm sure that you meant that as an insult.

FYI: "Atheism" is a noun. You were looking for an adjective such as "atheistic".

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Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#572406 Dec 12, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Of course God knows the future, but He wouldn't consider it "future".
Past, present & future are all the same to God.
"With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day." - 2 Peter 3:8

Your god has difficulty with time, doesn't he?

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Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#572407 Dec 12, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
why are you willing to accept that "face of the waters" is a metaphor but "day" is not?
No. Neither is a metaphor. From http://www.thefreedictionary.com/face :

Face - 8. The most significant or prominent surface of an object, especially:
a. The surface presented to view; the front.
b. A façade.
c. Outer surface: the face of the earth.

"She is the apple of my eye" is a metaphor. Eyes don't have an apple. The water has a face, just like a building and a clock.

“What game?”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#572408 Dec 12, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
"With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day." - 2 Peter 3:8
Your god has difficulty with time, doesn't he?
He didn't have a watch. That came on the eighth day when he realized that we need lesbians. We take a lickin but we keep on tickin.

Oh crap, what time is it?

“What game?”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#572409 Dec 12, 2012
Greens - Tuf wrote:
<quoted text>Physical world ?
The one beyond your eyelids.

Since: Jan 11

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#572410 Dec 12, 2012
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
He didn't have a watch. That came on the eighth day when he realized that we need lesbians. We take a lickin but we keep on tickin.
Oh crap, what time is it?
6 AM, PBJ time.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#572411 Dec 12, 2012
Huh wrote:
Please, do tell. Line by line. Which parts are allegorical, which are metaphorical, and which are literal. Surely you must have the latest Chinese-made decoder ring. After all, you just spoke for and described the god you said was indescribable.
I'll wait. And wait. And wait.
Idea!

I've often thought that Bibles should be treated like the movie The Wizard of Oz. Recall that reality, which was set in Kansas, and which appeared on screen only at the beginning and end of the movie, was filmed in black and white, whereas the fantasy world of Dorothy's dream of Oz while she was unconsciousness from the tornado was shot in color.

Couldn't we have Bible's like that? When we're in fantasy mode, like with the talking snake and the six days of creation, the printing could be in color to tell us that they were just kidding.

But when they got to the factual parts - the drop dead serious stuff such as the parts about zombies rising from the dead, for example - it would be in black and white.

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