“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#571875 Dec 10, 2012
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TOCO8TE...
Davin wrote:
so you really think that its only a christian belief that man has corrupted things like the environment
No. I believe that, too.
Davin wrote:
you think this is just a christian belief that its possible mankind has done more damage to this planet than anything remotely close to possitive.
Man can't do anything positive for the environment. He can only protect it from himself or not.
Davin wrote:
I look at Detroit as prime example of what happens to a city thats been damned with corruption and greed
I wouldn't know. I look at them as a team that swept the Yankees and then got swept by the Giants.
Davin wrote:
but its ok detroit, we're all damned
Now THAT'S a Christian belief.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#571876 Dec 10, 2012
Davin wrote:
you really hate religion dont you
I only hate the part that hurts people.

“The Intrepid”

Since: Jun 10

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#571877 Dec 10, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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"Believe," huh? It sounds like an order. There's some good advice coming from a respected and trusted source.
You know that meant "Believe as you please." Clem made it clear what she believes.

“The Intrepid”

Since: Jun 10

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#571878 Dec 10, 2012
boooots wrote:
That should read the "closest I have ever been" rather than "the closes". Correct spelling but wrong word.
We all know what you meant.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#571880 Dec 10, 2012
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>How about Magenta? Of course, I most often think of the character Magenta in the Rocky Horror Picture Show, but it also evokes fond memories of my Crayolas when I was a kid- magenta was my favorite color and my favorite name for a color- LOL!
I like magenta very well, too. Our garden has a wall of bougainvillea.

Plus, I watched a partly cloudy magenta sunrise over the lake this morning as it turned peach and grey, and then yellow and white.

“The Intrepid”

Since: Jun 10

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#571881 Dec 10, 2012
boooots wrote:
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I am happy that you are amused. You might have noticed a few days ago that I wrote rather a long post in support of you, and sympathizing re the trauma that you have experienced in life. Actually I do care, but I get a bit ticked when someone spends almost all of their time attacking others, on a discussion site.
Hypocrite! You consistently insult the intelligence of anyone who doesn't agree with you. Nobody should be expected to be the mental clone of anybody else.

Since: Oct 12

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#571882 Dec 10, 2012
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>You know that meant "Believe as you please." Clem made it clear what she believes.
I believe, Nano, I do! thanks :-)

IANS...yh, i know girls and guys called jamie, but i think they spell it the same. In my culture all our names were unisex too.

Since: Oct 12

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#571883 Dec 10, 2012
boooots wrote:
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I suspect she got into doing what she was told to do, and then after she became so world famous it kind of went to her head, and though she was being tormented herself, by her doubts (and I suspect extreme unhappiness that she had not really lived the life of ....... the RCs lower morals, however I suspect that Protestants had a goal to demonize RCs, at least in the past so likely what was taught to me, was taught to my parents and grandparents. If you never question what you are taught, then you continue to have screwed up ideas.
But what are u now?

Since: Sep 10

San Francisco, CA

#571884 Dec 10, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> Yeah it means you are in denial about the real consequences of your atheism and history. A person at work has an exchange student from Germany. She has said in East Germany if a young person got confirmed in either the Catholic or Lutheren church they were automatically denied college under the Communists. You need to read books about people who went to Gulags, had their property seized. Look at Ayn Rand who was big on property rights. Her whole family had their property seized and they got the boot. The killing off of people because they completed college and were not Communists. You got you head so far up your behind on this one, you cannot see the light of day.
Those of us who have been victimized by religion don't see it the way you do.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#571885 Dec 10, 2012
BadBreathBruce wrote:
Don't kill, don't steal, don't lie etc. All from RELIGION.
That's a pretty shabby set there. The Ten Commandments are really an embarrassing top ten list of important ethical principles. Four are about the god. One is to honor parents, and another to rest one day a week.

BTW, where did you get "Thou shalt not steal"? You stole it from the Jews, didn't you? And your church has done more than a bit of lying and killing over the years, too.
BadBreathBruce wrote:
How can any NEW MORALS be invented by the secularist fraternity to ADD to what religion has already established, huh??
Reversing the old ones that are flawed.
BadBreathBruce wrote:
In only a few short decades from now, you atheists will be the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY. But you DO have a CONSCIENCE ...
Yes. I'm glad that you asked. Did you see this? http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TOCO8TE...
BadBreathBruce wrote:
... that quietly tells you that there really is someone up in the heavens who made YOU and is worthy of your worship.
Oh. I thought that you meant an internal moral compass. Yours says please refer to the book, huh? No, I don't have that.
BadBreathBruce wrote:
EVERYONE has this conscience, even the most diehard atheist. You may not admit it NOW, or many years from now, but, eventually you will.
I'm going to have to disagree with you on that one. My conscience tells me to steer clear of Christianity.
BadBreathBruce wrote:
Let's just hope and pray that you won't leave it till Judgment Day to FINALLY wake up to it. Oh, and BTW, God bless you!!
Thanks. And lets hope you cast off the chains of damnation theology and wake up before burial day. God-less you!!

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#571886 Dec 10, 2012
BadBreathBruce wrote:
Fiddlesticks.
Poppycock! Balderdash!

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#571887 Dec 10, 2012
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. why do Fundamentalist Christians think abortion, homosexuality or stem cell research immoral yet support wars that result in the death of innocents and innocuously coin such fatalities 'collateral damage'? Isn't murder, ahh, murder? What's the difference ??..
who supports the death of innocents???

genocide and the mass murder of its citizens always comes from socialist/communist/atheistic regimes. more deaths in the last 100 years (since darwinism) then has been in all of history.

let's get the facts straight;)

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#571888 Dec 10, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Our garden has a wall of bougainvillea.
OUCH!!

I hate those plants - just for the thorns!

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#571889 Dec 10, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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That's a pretty shabby set there. The Ten Commandments are really an embarrassing top ten list of important ethical principles. Four are about the god. One is to honor parents, and another to rest one day a week.
BTW, where did you get "Thou shalt not steal"? You stole it from the Jews, didn't you? And your church has done more than a bit of lying and killing over the years, too.
<quoted text>
Reversing the old ones that are flawed.
<quoted text>
Yes. I'm glad that you asked. Did you see this? http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TOCO8TE...
<quoted text>
Oh. I thought that you meant an internal moral compass. Yours says please refer to the book, huh? No, I don't have that.
<quoted text>
I'm going to have to disagree with you on that one. My conscience tells me to steer clear of Christianity.
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Thanks. And lets hope you cast off the chains of damnation theology and wake up before burial day. God-less you!!
"The Ten Commandments are really an embarrassing top ten list of important ethical principles"

i wouldn't want you living anywhere near me, you God hating, lying, covetous, murdering, adultering, thief!
hah

Marlinton, WV

#571890 Dec 10, 2012
Davin wrote:
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maybe not apples but atoms? like as in atom bombs like in using nuclear bombs just to see what they could do? go read some history texts, the next world war will be that last world war
i'm pretty sure we're in the middle of WWIII right now, and have been for a while. I'm not going to deny that mankind can and most likely will destroy itself. God has nothing to do with that, though. The bible, sure, but not god.
hah

Marlinton, WV

#571891 Dec 10, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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"The Ten Commandments are really an embarrassing top ten list of important ethical principles"
i wouldn't want you living anywhere near me, you God hating, lying, covetous, murdering, adultering, thief!
So the only reason you have for not murdering, raping, stealing, etc, is because god said not to?

Since: Oct 10

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#571892 Dec 10, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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who supports the death of innocents???
genocide and the mass murder of its citizens always comes from socialist/communist/atheistic regimes. more deaths in the last 100 years (since darwinism) then has been in all of history.
let's get the facts straight;)
So you agree that the Bible is a work of fiction then? Excellent start. Baby steps, ya know?

Carrion.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#571893 Dec 10, 2012
River Tam wrote:
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So you agree that the Bible is a work of fiction then? Excellent start. Baby steps, ya know?
Carrion.
it's ridiculous to think that the Bible is fiction, hon, just look at the nation of Israel and all the believers in Christ to see that it's not!

if you have an ax to grind, how about we talk about the (lesbian) ax?:)

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#571894 Dec 10, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Poppycock! Balderdash!
Monopoly! Connect Four!

I never played Poppycock.

Is that Milton Bradley or Parker Brothers?

The new Monopoly has moral hazards, bailouts, and no jail time.
God Himself

Kingston, Jamaica

#571895 Dec 10, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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From http://www.thefreedictionary.com/god
God - A powerful ruler or despot.
Yes. And this is why genocidal cults of personality like Stalinism, Nazism, and Maoism with their harshly judgmental and authoritarian mortal gods are more properly categorized with Christianity and Islam than with gentle philosophies like secular humanism.
The mere fact that men who saw themselves as gods would deny that there were supernatural gods greater than themselves does not make their brutal cults of personality like secular humanism, which also rejects the god concept. Humanists are atheists for a completely unrelated reason, and pursue much more benign ideals and motiviations.
From the Affirmations of Humanism:
"We affirm humanism as a realistic alternative to theologies of despair and ideologies of violence and as a source of rich personal significance and genuine satisfaction in the service to others."
This type of thinking - a celebration of the individual and of the human spirit - is alien to Stalinism, Christianity, Nazism, Islam and Maoism. They all crack some kind of serious whip.
You have taken the argument completely out of context.

My justification was for calling myself a God; you are mentioning individuals who do not share my concept of God nor anything else. The fact that they may have seen themselves as gods, in no way implies that their godliness is similar to or related to my sense of godliness.

I find it rather conflicting that you "affirm humanism as a realistic alternative to theologies of despair", when you espouse a concept that implies that all existence is meaningless.

I see no reason to think that your referring to Humanism is anything but an attempt to escape the futility of the world you imagine in scientific thought.

The human spirit is celebrated by giving it a sense of direct relationship and connection with the Omnipotent? You just cant appreciate that because you lack the capacity or are otherwise unable to.

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