Comments
542,921 - 542,940 of 729,782 Comments Last updated 7 min ago
Huh

Dallas, TX

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#571779
Dec 10, 2012
 

Judged:

1

1

1

It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Her religion taught her that. It's a rather disgusting thing to think. My main point with her is not how horrible she was, but how the church influenced her life. How about the fraud of accepting millions of dollars intended to ease the suffering of the dying poor, and she forwarded them to perhaps the wealthiest treasury in the world, which kept the money. People trusted that woman.
This is in part why I am EXTREMELY skeptical of all Christian charities. There is virtually no oversight of them, and no will to provide any oversight - just the will to grant tax breaks based on their word.
Christian charities are by definition utterly inefficient. Secular charities out collect and outspend them by monumental numbers.

http://yashwata.info/2010/07/15/charity1/

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#571780
Dec 10, 2012
 
Huh wrote:
<quoted text>That always surprises me. They claim presentism, zeitgeist, and secret decoder interpretation as necessity for composition and elucidation of an allegedly perfect being, yet each interprets it to their own prejudice. Weird.
Yeah and your interpretation of Christians is of your own prejudice. Seems it does not accur to you apply your own standards to your own posts.
Huh

Dallas, TX

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#571781
Dec 10, 2012
 

Judged:

1

1

1

Al Garcia wrote:
<quoted text>
To most Christians the only true words are the words that were told to them by their parents or Grandparents, read about in the Bible and verified by their pastors. Along comes someone and tells them that what they've heard, what they've known what they've cherished and who've they've cherished it from is not true? And in most of those cases IANS (maybe not in your case but in most others out there) they're told in a not so nice way that they've been lied to, or are crazy. And one wonders why we become hostile? It's the Equivalent of being told that your parents aren't your real parents, or the that person telling you this is for whatever reason attempting to maliciously lie to you and hurt you.
Of course a Christian is going to resist, get angry and respond with a defense that may be less than civil. They feel that... Know that... What they know is the truth and along comes this person telling them otherwise. We've been told that Satan will come along to do just that. And guess what?! There is a real fear of Satan and its easy to now see him in the flesh delivering the message that we were told would come.
It's really not difficult for me to see where the hostility comes from. Perhaps I don't personally fear Satan. Perhaps I've toyed with the idea that he may not exist. That may well be why I personally do not respond with hostility. But I cannot speak for all my Christian brethren on this but only my own. Perhaps my lack of fear of Satan will be my undoing at my end, but only time and God will tell.
Yet Christians try to claim that they are unwavering in that faith but change sects or schisms all the time.

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#571782
Dec 10, 2012
 
Huh wrote:
<quoted text>There are fine examples of this all over Scandanavia and Western Europe..
will culture, morality, and scientific advance, survive the coming abrahamic war?
Huh

Dallas, TX

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#571783
Dec 10, 2012
 

Judged:

1

1

1

BadBreathBruce wrote:
<quoted text> I'm sorry, but I beg to differ.

1. I believe we are morally bankrupt almost to the point of no return.

2. Besides, didn't all morality originate from religion in the first place?? Sorry for raining on your parade, karl44!!
1. Speak for yourself.

2. No, religion pretended to be the source of morality. It fills the coffers. There are innumerable examples throughout history of religions being dragged kicking and screaming forward by the secular world. For example, it wasn't until the Constitution that Christians stopped killing Christians just for differing in their sect. It wasn't until the end of WWII that Christians stopped killing Jews.
Huh

Dallas, TX

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#571784
Dec 10, 2012
 

Judged:

1

1

1

BadBreathBruce wrote:
<quoted text> And yet, people SHOULD have changed much - MORALLY - over the centuries, for the BETTER. Why has it gone pear-shaped?? Surely: PHYSICAL Evolution + MENTAL Evolution = MORAL Evolution. It's got me stumped.
They have, especially in modern societies where religion has become a museum piece.
Huh

Dallas, TX

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#571785
Dec 10, 2012
 

Judged:

1

1

1

God Himself wrote:
<quoted text>
But there you go.
A theory cannot be proven.
So what is the value of supporting evidence if it does not prove the theory correct?
You're still doing the equivocation fallacy. Stop it.
Huh

Dallas, TX

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#571786
Dec 10, 2012
 

Judged:

1

1

1

God Himself wrote:
<quoted text>
I actually did listen to it before I posted it. You are not the individual described in the latter part of the video.
You are the one described in the first part... the one about an atheist being someone who is angry at God...
And, another fallacy. It is impossible to be mad at something that has not been demonstrated to exist. That is childish and ridiculous. Are you mad at leprechauns and unicorns? After all, you would admit they have not been proven to exist, no?

How does a person in 2012 still hold onto such ridiculous concepts as anger at the imaginary?
Huh

Dallas, TX

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#571787
Dec 10, 2012
 

Judged:

1

1

1

God Himself wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, I am the Evil-lotion character.
That quote does contain terms which allude to "belief in"; but my questions regarding "religious beliefs", I maid no mention about "believing in" anything; so I fail to see why you are differentiating believing in from believing that, in the context.
"I don't trust the sincerity or the motives of posters who come back wearing new identities" either.
But since the value of a person's questions and responses has nothing to do with what name they are posting under; just get with it or get lost.
Weird.

Evolution has nothing to do with belief. Evolution is not a philosophy, moral code, or a belief system. Evolution is just a process by which change occurs in nature. The process of evolution was deduced by interpretation of evidence that holds up to empirical scrutiny. Evolution is like many other natural processes which are deduced by interpretation of evidence. A couple of other processes we have deduced from evidence found in the natural world are erosion and eutrophication.

Evolution has no moral bias, any more than erosion or eutrophication do. Evolution is an explanation of a process which takes nothing into account but the physical evidence and only that evidence which holds up to careful scrutiny. The process by which scientific theories are arrived at and supported has much in common with crime scene investigation. Data surrounding the thing being investigated is collected and examined as scientists compare it to other known quantities and try to puzzle out how the event happened. Any evidence which doesn't hold up to rigorous empirical investigation is discarded.

To make a claim that it has anything to do with belief is the height of dishonesty.
Huh

Dallas, TX

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#571788
Dec 10, 2012
 

Judged:

1

1

1

God Himself wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, I am the Evil-lotion character.

But since the value of a person's questions and responses has nothing to do with what name they are posting under; just get with it or get lost.
Angry Christian is angry. Why are you angry at unicorns?
Huh

Dallas, TX

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#571789
Dec 10, 2012
 

Judged:

1

1

1

God Himself wrote:
<quoted text>
Why are you obsessed with the supernatural? You seem to be suffering from a God delusion of some sort. By "natural intelligence", I mean intelligence that arose naturally.
I desire to understand why you find it hard to appreciate that if natural intelligence exists, that intelligence may have designed and/or be guiding the development of the natural world.
Why couldn't natural intelligence cause the formation of the universe by intelligently designing; even by evolution in as much as it is a process that can be used to create intelligently?
Bwahahahaha. A delusion Christian is asking why someone else is obsessed with the supernatural. Irony alert!
Huh

Dallas, TX

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#571790
Dec 10, 2012
 

Judged:

1

1

1

God Himself wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you sure that I am the one who hates women here?
Where is the contradiction?
If you understood the Bible you would know that there are various people speaking in the Bible, each having their own conception of what God is or relying on different attributes.
The differences in perspectives or characterisations of God are due to the differences in the subjectiveness of the perceptions of the various men, regarding the nature of God.
Hence there is no contradiction in God in the Bible, but there may be contradiction about God in the Bible.
What I have said about me being a God is not contradicting anything. You are making a baseless claim.
Do you even understand the style of writing that is used to compose the Bible?
DUNCE!
Your god is a terrible communicator, then, in addition to being a bloodthirsty loon.

By the way, this is Biblical interpretation 2.37x10 to the umpteenth power interpretation of the Bible on Topix alone.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#571791
Dec 10, 2012
 

Judged:

1

1

1

Al Garcia wrote:
To most Christians the only true words are the words that were told to them by their parents or Grandparents, read about in the Bible and verified by their pastors. Along comes someone and tells them that what they've heard, what they've known what they've cherished and who've they've cherished it from is not true?
Yes, I understand. That of course is what I was alluding to when I wrote, "I guess I understand. We attack what is most cherished to them."

Yes, I see that as well. How do you say that nicely?
Al Garcia wrote:
And in most of those cases IANS (maybe not in your case but in most others out there) they're told in a not so nice way that they've been lied to, or are crazy. And one wonders why we become hostile? It's the Equivalent of being told that your parents aren't your real parents, or the that person telling you this is for whatever reason attempting to maliciously lie to you and hurt you.
Agreed.
Al Garcia wrote:
Of course a Christian is going to resist, get angry and respond with a defense that may be less than civil.
Again, I understand. I don't see it changing.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#571792
Dec 10, 2012
 

Judged:

1

1

1

Al Garcia wrote:
They feel that... Know that... What they know is the truth and along comes this person telling them otherwise. We've been told that Satan will come along to do just that. And guess what?! There is a real fear of Satan and its easy to now see him in the flesh delivering the message that we were told would come.
I know. I used to be a Christian. It's a great little set of predictions and teachings - you will be despised by others for what you tell them, but that will be the Devil talking. And you will have doubt, but ignore those, too - that's also the Devil.
Al Garcia wrote:
It's really not difficult for me to see where the hostility comes from. Perhaps I don't personally fear Satan. Perhaps I've toyed with the idea that he may not exist. That may well be why I personally do not respond with hostility. But I cannot speak for all my Christian brethren on this but only my own. Perhaps my lack of fear of Satan will be my undoing at my end, but only time and God will tell.
Thanks for that, Al.

And kudos to you for learning to keep it impersonal, as you just did. Never once did you try to psychoanalyze my need to escape accountability, nor refer to any imaginary feuding with a god that I only claim to believe doesn't exist, nor salivate over my future horror and suffering. I pretty much put all of those people in the same pile, and it's a pretty big pile. You more or less stand alone among Christians here. Nettie and Fossil Bob are pretty good Christians, too, but I don't see much of either.

That's really what my post was about - what a shame that it has to be that way so often.
Huh

Dallas, TX

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#571793
Dec 10, 2012
 

Judged:

1

1

1

It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Well said.
Me, too. I'm also agnostic. I don't really see how anything else is possible at this point. How could you know either way?
I'm also an atheist because, like you, I'm not buying any of the dogma. Nor the mythology, nor the superstitions, nor the magical thinking. I don't believe any of it, so I'm not involved in any religions or any forms of worship. Why would I be.
That makes me an atheist. An agnostic atheist. If I'm not an atheist - if somebody as aggressively anti-theistic as I am doesn't count as an atheist because - then the word is useless.
I wouldn't be surprised if you're also an atheist. You don't seem to believe in a god either.
I am a gnostic atheist to Biblegod. It has been proven demonstrably false. As far as any other gods, cultural conditioning is only what has led us to any gods in the first place so I teeter towards gnostic atheism in that regard, as well. As no gods have ever been demonstrated and have no effect on the natural world, the knowledge of them is ultimately immaterial.
Huh

Dallas, TX

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#571794
Dec 10, 2012
 

Judged:

1

1

1

macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Gotta love those people who wear gold crosses or other such jewelry, wear funny hats, strange clothing, horrible haircuts, stick fish and "I-Heart-Jesus" stickers on their cars - and then tell me to keep my atheism to myself.
I once saw a car littered with pro-life stickers driving in such an unsafe manner that it took out four cars a 4 miles up the road after it passed. It is supposed to mean more than zygotes.
Huh

Dallas, TX

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#571795
Dec 10, 2012
 

Judged:

1

1

1

nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>It's a POE, you moron. Probably, HFY.
By definition, a Poe is indistinguishable. Not recognizing one does not make one a moron.

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#571796
Dec 10, 2012
 

Judged:

1

Huh wrote:
<quoted text>Angry Christian is angry. Why are you angry at unicorns?
I'm sure they're angry at unicorns because they're fabulously gay!
http://fashionindie.lookbooks.netdna-cdn.com/...
Huh

Dallas, TX

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#571797
Dec 10, 2012
 

Judged:

1

1

1

karl44 wrote:
<quoted text>
will culture, morality, and scientific advance, survive the coming abrahamic war?
It's impossible to predict. Maybe it will prevent it.
Huh

Dallas, TX

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#571798
Dec 10, 2012
 

Judged:

1

1

1

lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> Yeah and your interpretation of Christians is of your own prejudice. Seems it does not accur to you apply your own standards to your own posts.
This in no way addresses the point of my post. You are just circling the wagons around your impossible faith scenario. It is your fallback, yet, you learn nothing from it. Que sera sera.

Tell me when this thread is updated: (Registration is not required)

Add to my Tracker Send me an email

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

•••
Enter and win $5000
•••