“O'si yo!”

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#570976 Dec 7, 2012
boooots wrote:
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UIF, are you trying to tell us that you have less school education than even Patty does, who appears to be the least educated person to have been on this site?
Most people know that we did not come from a literal man and woman, named Adam and Eve.
I thought you were the least educated on this site.

your putdowns are OLD.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#570977 Dec 7, 2012
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>I can't speak for "Huh", but I know what MY end game is.
That is to keep the CLEAR separation of church and state we enjoy in this country as clear and as distinct as possible.
I don't think you understand what separation of church & state means.

"Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church and State." -Jefferson

The gov't CAN'T make laws prohibiting exercise of religion.

And guess what?

Neither can you.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#570978 Dec 7, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Really? Wow.
Go ahead and pat yourself on the back.
Most of school funding comes from property taxes. The rest comes from things like grants(mainly for repairs, upgrades, books, etc) and fundraisers.
OMG- who do you think fills the coffers for those grants?

“Ditat Deus”

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#570979 Dec 7, 2012
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. wonder if your nemesis knows what the Hebrew word 'putz' means. If not, it could be your new nickname for him ..
Oh sure. In 46 years, I've never heard the word putz before.....

ooooooh

Jeweist putz!

“Ditat Deus”

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#570980 Dec 7, 2012
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>And do keep in mind that RR scoffs and sneers at one's heritage being something that to many is important and appreciated.
He has no use for it because he is not intelligent enough to see the value in one's heritage and he becomes outraged at the mere suggestion to him that his heritage is NOT American but that it most likely originated in Europe.
He thinks that his family having been here for a mere 125 years speaks of his heritage and he misinterprets that to think that means his heritage is American and ONLY American.
Hey! Maybe we should all chip in and get him a subscription to ancestry.com
LOL!!!
Wouldn't do much good. My mom's grandparents had no birth certificates, neither did their parents, grandparents, etc....

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#570981 Dec 7, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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It can't happen in public schools. They don't teach religion.
Geez, do try to pay attention.
Yep- I do more in an HOUR than you do in a DAY.

For instance, it took me about 1 minute to prove you WRONG in this post of yours to which I am responding:

From post #570972:

"The following examples show what that tightrope looks like on a day-to-day basis.

OK: Teaching about the Bible, the Torah, or other sacred texts and their influence on human behavior. No one denies that religion has strongly motivated behavior in the United States and around the world. Acknowledging that fact in the curriculum does not raise First Amendment concerns.

Wrong: Teaching sacred documents with devotion or as singular truth. It crosses the line when a teacher or school district portrays one religion or religion in general as the preferred belief."

If I had a nickel for every time I've proved you wrong, I could have quit my job by now.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#570982 Dec 7, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Oh sure. In 46 years, I've never heard the word putz before.....
ooooooh
Jeweist putz!
HL asked if you knew what it MEANT- not if you've HEARD the word....

READ, you SCHMUCK, READ......

“Ditat Deus”

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#570983 Dec 7, 2012
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>Nah- the only thing "strange"- and using the word "strange" in a positive way- is that "Huh" got you all figured out in about 5 minutes.
According to you, Dr Ruth?

“Ditat Deus”

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#570984 Dec 7, 2012
Chubbs Peterson wrote:
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Before I waste expend any effort, tell me exactly what you would accept as proof.....something that could be provided within the context of this forum. And be specific.
Sadly, apocalypse666 has passed on.

The atheists still look down to him for inspiration, though....

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#570985 Dec 7, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I don't think you understand what separation of church & state means.
"Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church and State." -Jefferson
The gov't CAN'T make laws prohibiting exercise of religion.
And guess what?
Neither can you.
YES. THEY. CAN. And YES. THEY. DO.

NO LAW RESPECTING AN ESTABLISHMENT OF RELIGION.

That means that in PUBLIC SCHOOLS, NO establishment of religion.

You are DENSE.

You can exercise religion in your HOME.

You can exercise religion in a CHURCH, TEMPLE or other houses of worship.

You can exercise religion on the STREET CORNER.

You can NOT exercise religion in PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

Are you really TOO dense to get this and see WHY it is important that our PUBLIC schools do not teach any sort of religious indoctrination??

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#570986 Dec 7, 2012
United in faith wrote:
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RR i wouldn't even waste your time trying to commuicate with that (Botz r us) that person is seriously damaged.
Agreed. I can't help it sometimes.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#570987 Dec 7, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Wouldn't do much good. My mom's grandparents had no birth certificates, neither did their parents, grandparents, etc....
As if I would pay for anything for you anyway. I might chip in a buck if that would get YOU to pay attention.....

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#570988 Dec 7, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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According to you, Dr Ruth?
It doesn't take a doctor of any sort to be able to determine what you are all about or to have your number, bub.

You are transparent, you are one-dimensional, you are pedestrian.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#570989 Dec 7, 2012
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. wonder if your nemesis knows what the Hebrew word 'putz' means. If not, it could be your new nickname for him ..
BTW, HL- just wanted to point out that the word "putz" is not Hebrew, but Yiddish.....just wanted to clarify...

:-)

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#570990 Dec 7, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I don't think you understand what separation of church & state means.
"Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church and State." -Jefferson
The gov't CAN'T make laws prohibiting exercise of religion.
And guess what?
Neither can you.
BTW, try to grasp the difference between TEACHING religion in public schools and EXERCISING religion in public schools.

I imagine that will take you the entire weekend, so get back to me on that on Monday,'k?

“Ditat Deus”

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#570991 Dec 7, 2012
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>You're a liar or an idiot. Or else a lying idiot. Or else an idiotic liar.
"The following examples show what that tightrope looks like on a day-to-day basis.
OK: Teaching about the Bible, the Torah, or other sacred texts and their influence on human behavior. No one denies that religion has strongly motivated behavior in the United States and around the world. Acknowledging that fact in the curriculum does not raise First Amendment concerns.
Wrong: Teaching sacred documents with devotion or as singular truth. It crosses the line when a teacher or school district portrays one religion or religion in general as the preferred belief.
http://www.centerforpubliceducation.org/Main-...
Those are opinions. Here, I'll show you a flaw in whoever wrote that site:
"The Constitution uses 16 words—known as the “religion clauses”—to create rules about how faith and government interact. One clause gives citizens the right to freely exercise religious convictions; the other prohibits government (including taxpayer-funded public schools) from establishing religion, meaning granting favorable treatment."

You see the "the other prohibits government from establishing religion" part? You see how they use intellectual dishonesty?

No?

Shocker!

It actually says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion...."

That means there can't be an establishment of a national religion by Congress.

It doesn't mean schools...

“Ditat Deus”

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#570992 Dec 7, 2012
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>RR, I GUARANTEE you- I do more in an HOUR than you do in a DAY.
I hope you kept your receipt.

“Ditat Deus”

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#570993 Dec 7, 2012
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>OMG- who do you think fills the coffers for those grants?
State & federal funding.

“Ditat Deus”

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#570994 Dec 7, 2012
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>Yep- I do more in an HOUR than you do in a DAY.
For instance, it took me about 1 minute to prove you WRONG in this post of yours to which I am responding:
From post #570972:
"The following examples show what that tightrope looks like on a day-to-day basis.
OK: Teaching about the Bible, the Torah, or other sacred texts and their influence on human behavior. No one denies that religion has strongly motivated behavior in the United States and around the world. Acknowledging that fact in the curriculum does not raise First Amendment concerns.
Wrong: Teaching sacred documents with devotion or as singular truth. It crosses the line when a teacher or school district portrays one religion or religion in general as the preferred belief."
If I had a nickel for every time I've proved you wrong, I could have quit my job by now.
Knucklehead, that's NOT A LAW....

That's a person's opinion.

“Ditat Deus”

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#570995 Dec 7, 2012
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>YES. THEY. CAN. And YES. THEY. DO.
NO LAW RESPECTING AN ESTABLISHMENT OF RELIGION.
That means that in PUBLIC SCHOOLS, NO establishment of religion.
You are DENSE.
You can exercise religion in your HOME.
You can exercise religion in a CHURCH, TEMPLE or other houses of worship.
You can exercise religion on the STREET CORNER.
You can NOT exercise religion in PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
Are you really TOO dense to get this and see WHY it is important that our PUBLIC schools do not teach any sort of religious indoctrination??
Simple question.

If a teacher has a cross hung over the classroom door, does that equal Congress establishing a national religion?

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