OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#570836 Dec 7, 2012
Huh wrote:
<quoted text>That's from the Theory of Intelligent Driving, which, sadly, does not exist in America.
LOL!!! But I didn't mean I was driving- I was using literal running in my example.

And it's not so much that there isn't Intelligent Driving in America as much as it is that there isn't courteous or patient driving in America; then again, I guess for some, it would take intelligence to be courteous and patient.
Huh

Dallas, TX

#570837 Dec 7, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Please explain to me how a teacher having a cross in a classroom is "expressly forbidden"....
C'mon, show your athitard to me.
It depends on how it is displayed and what that display is used for, so, yes, "expressly forbidden" is a non-starter. A teacher may wear a cross necklace, for example, but can not use it to prosyletize. Crosses can not be used as classroom decorations in US public schools. This has been substantiated and upheld by the courts.

See, e. g., Aguillard, 482 U. S. 578; Lemon v. Kurtzman, 403 U. S. 602 (1971).

Displays of religious symbols, texts or artwork on school property are impermissible unless a display is integrated into an appropriate secular curriculum.

52 See Stone v. Graham, 449 U. S. 39, 42 (1980); ACLU of Kentucky v. McCreary County, 354 F.

Your use of the term "expressly forbidden" is dissemblance of the third kind, since you know that a teacher may wear personal jewelry and religious symbols may be part of secular curriculum, but, you also know that religious displays, artwork, and prosyletizing are "expressly forbidden". Parsing words is inherently dishonest.
Huh

Dallas, TX

#570838 Dec 7, 2012
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>LOL!!! But I didn't mean I was driving- I was using literal running in my example.
And it's not so much that there isn't Intelligent Driving in America as much as it is that there isn't courteous or patient driving in America; then again, I guess for some, it would take intelligence to be courteous and patient.
I am afraid it is all three
Huh

Dallas, TX

#570839 Dec 7, 2012
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>Then do NOT talk to me.
Not MY problem that you can't understand that while I was born into the religion of Judaism, I am a non-practicing Jew but that doesn't make my born religion any less than that of Jewish.
I don't believe in the OT any more than I do the NT, but for like the gazillionth time, I accept and respect my HERITAGE as a result of being Jewish.
What is truly pointless is your existence on this planet. You're useless.
Rednecks can't understand cultural Jews. They never had a really good bagel with a schmear.
Huh

Dallas, TX

#570840 Dec 7, 2012
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>LOL!!! But I didn't mean I was driving- I was using literal running in my example.
And it's not so much that there isn't Intelligent Driving in America as much as it is that there isn't courteous or patient driving in America; then again, I guess for some, it would take intelligence to be courteous and patient.
Riding down the left lane side by side with another car, failing to use turn signals, failing to yield the right of way, inept lane changes, turning right into the left lane and vice versa are not signs of impatience or a lack of courtesy. They are signs of an extreme lack of driving intelligence.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#570841 Dec 7, 2012
Huh wrote:
<quoted text>Rednecks can't understand cultural Jews. They never had a really good bagel with a schmear.
OMG- ROFLMAO!!!

GREAT post!!!

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#570842 Dec 7, 2012
Huh wrote:
<quoted text>It depends on how it is displayed and what that display is used for, so, yes, "expressly forbidden" is a non-starter. A teacher may wear a cross necklace, for example, but can not use it to prosyletize. Crosses can not be used as classroom decorations in US public schools. This has been substantiated and upheld by the courts.
See, e. g., Aguillard, 482 U. S. 578; Lemon v. Kurtzman, 403 U. S. 602 (1971).
Displays of religious symbols, texts or artwork on school property are impermissible unless a display is integrated into an appropriate secular curriculum.
52 See Stone v. Graham, 449 U. S. 39, 42 (1980); ACLU of Kentucky v. McCreary County, 354 F.
Your use of the term "expressly forbidden" is dissemblance of the third kind, since you know that a teacher may wear personal jewelry and religious symbols may be part of secular curriculum, but, you also know that religious displays, artwork, and prosyletizing are "expressly forbidden". Parsing words is inherently dishonest.
Huh, as you seem to be new here- and already a welcome addition, btw- do NOT assume RiversideRedneck knows ANYTHING and certainly don't assume he knows what you very accurately posted.

But you are right in saying that RR is "inherently dishonest"- to that, I would only add "as the day is long". Even though the longest day of the year is no match for how very inherently dishonest he is.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#570843 Dec 7, 2012
Huh wrote:
<quoted text>Riding down the left lane side by side with another car, failing to use turn signals, failing to yield the right of way, inept lane changes, turning right into the left lane and vice versa are not signs of impatience or a lack of courtesy. They are signs of an extreme lack of driving intelligence.
Ummm....maybe, but it could be argued that it does take some amount of intelligence to be courteous and patient.

But frankly, I don't really see that as a lack of intelligence.
Huh

Dallas, TX

#570844 Dec 7, 2012
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>Ummm....maybe, but it could be argued that it does take some amount of intelligence to be courteous and patient.
But frankly, I don't really see that as a lack of intelligence.
The list I gave has nothing to do with courtesy or patience.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#570845 Dec 7, 2012
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>"Jeweist"? No such word.....
And what does having been born into Judaism have to do with your post anyway?
And don't ask ME what I THINK it is- look it up for YOURSELF since it seems you are the one who doesn't know what it means or if you do, you want to trample it.
New word; Jeweist.

You claim to be a Deist.

You also claim to be Jewish.

OCB has inspired me to create a new word.

Jeweist.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#570846 Dec 7, 2012
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>TWICE. And no- I will NOT scroll back.
So- how about it? You did try to twist the meaning of "turn the other cheek" a week or so ago, or don't you remember that either?
I didn't twist it, I explained it to you.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#570847 Dec 7, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
No they're not.
Not on public property.
I pay taxes too.
Where's the law that says that?

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#570848 Dec 7, 2012
Huh wrote:
<quoted text>The list I gave has nothing to do with courtesy or patience.
Well, I can only speak for myself.

I always use turn signals, for instance, which doesn't take intelligence to do so, other than good old common sense, which I guess can be argued IS intelligence.

But it does take courtesy and the desire to insure one does all they can to arrive at their destination safely.

But I can see you're already a wonderful addition to this thread, so I won't argue this side issue with you any longer!

:-)

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#570849 Dec 7, 2012
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>We all have the right to display our religion in our homes, on our cars, even in our work places- but NOT in PUBLIC schools.
Period. End of story. Don't like it?
Tough cookies, cookie.
Sorry for your luck, you dumb CLUCK.
That's your opinion, not the law.

Don't like it?

Tough shit.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#570850 Dec 7, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
I didn't twist it, I explained it to you.
Your explanation was WRONG. You claimed your Jesus instructed you to turn the other cheek regarding acts of war but not in one on one confrontations.

What a crock.

In that scripture, the following words appear: "Him", "Person", "Someone".

The above words refer to an INDIVIDUAL and have nothing to do with acts of war- at least not in the sense you meant it with your moronic and erroneous "explanation".

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#570851 Dec 7, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
New word; Jeweist.
You claim to be a Deist.
You also claim to be Jewish.
OCB has inspired me to create a new word.
Jeweist.
I AM Jewish. That is the religion I was born INTO and unless I undergo a formal conversion to another religion, that will never change whether I am a practicing Jew or not.

Again, because you are ignorant about Judaism and what not only the RELIGION is all about but also what Judaism is all about on a cultural level and regarding one's heritage, you can't begin to understand the phrase "Once a Jew, always a Jew"- and that would apply even if I did undergo a formal conversion to another religion.

I can't really fault you for your ignorance other than your lack of desire to learn, but this issue is something that is really only best understood among Jews.

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#570852 Dec 7, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
You're an Obama loving, liberal idiot.
I'd support a teacher with a cross, a Jewish star, a Mulsim crescent, even a Darwin fish.
You know why?
BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DISPLAY THEIR RELIGION IF THEY CHOOSE TO.
ALL AMERICANS ARE CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED TO DO SO.
I figured a Jeweist would know that.
so if a teacher displayed a satanic pentagram or other devil worshiping symbols, you'd be okay with that???

somehow I think you're lying about a Muslim crescent, so I very much doubt you'd sanction anything to do with devil worship

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#570853 Dec 7, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
That's your opinion, not the law.
Don't like it?
Tough shit.
Sorry, you IGNORANT American- it IS the law.

Public schools are NOT allowed to display ANY religious items- nor should they be.

Don't like it? Sorry- that you don't like it doesn't make it any less the LAW, you CRAPPY anti-American.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#570854 Dec 7, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Where's the law that says that?
How about getting your head out of your ass and taking a look at post #570837?

And WHY do you ask others to do your research for you?

If you don't believe that is the law, look it UP for your lazy ASS self, you lazy ASS.

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#570855 Dec 7, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
That's your opinion, not the law.
Don't like it?
Tough shit.
well except that it is the law......they just barred a nativity scene in Santa Monica because it was on public/gov't land. Of course the Christian Taliban fought it in court...AND LOST

so now it is being displayed on PRIVATE LAND

one has to wonder
WHY DID THEY WASTE EVERYONE'S TIME AND MONEY.....WHY DIDN'T THEY JUST PUT THE DISPLAY UP ON PRIVATE LAND TO BEGIN WITH....

oh yeah that would involve logic...something religious fundamentalists seem to be lacking

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