Prove there's a god.

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Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#569378 Dec 4, 2012
Evo-Lotion is Rub-ish wrote:
There are three types of feeding relationship identified in biology and it is arguable whether any of them occurs directly as a result of competition.
Really?

I presume by "three types of feeding relationship" you mean the trophic levels: producers, herbivores and predators.

And yes, organisms compete at all trophic levels. Producers compete for sunlight. Arboreal herbivores and herbivores with long necks out compete the grazers for leaves and fruit. And faster predators or social hunters often outcompete other predators.

[Where are the scavengers and saprophytes? An alternate classification lumps the herbivores, carnivores and scavengers together as consumers, and calls the saprophytes and related organisms decomposers, yielding these three: producers, consumers and decomposers]

“Ditat Deus”

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#569379 Dec 4, 2012
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>I never said the people with the fish symbol did; it is YOU making the OUTRAGEOUS claim that atheists are shoving their symbols in your (stupid) face.
Sorry- not gonna read the entire article; as to what you posted from it, that is a LIE. The Darwin fish is NOT intolerance; it is simply a statement of an individual's belief, just as the fish symbol is.
And you are attributing words to me I NEVER said- show me once where I even remotely implied that those with a fish symbol on their cars are going to pull me over and threaten me.
Too bad your overactive imagination can't be put to more constructive use; as it stands, you only use it to accuse others of saying what they never said.
You should read it. That article isn't a lie.

The Darwin fish is a mockery of the Jesus fish. It teaches atheist intolerance of religion, particularly Christians.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#569380 Dec 4, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
It's compatible with that.
<quoted text>
You used the word first, and you used it incorrectly:
Evo-Lotion is Rub-ish wrote: "it would be more reasonable to say the organism is in "equilibrium" with its surrounding"
<quoted text>
That is incorrect.
My computer sits on a table. It pushes down on the table with a force equal and opposite to the one the table exerts back on the computer. This puts them in static equilibrium, meaning that there is no relative motion between them.
IANS, you are too good a poster- and too good a person to be wasting your time on the RUBBISH you are posting to.

I'm not at all trying to tell you who you should or should not post to; it's just that in this case you are casting your pearls (of wisdom, intelligence and insight) before SWINE.....and my apologies to swine everywhere.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#569381 Dec 4, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
1. I am not concerned.
2. I laugh at you. You're petty behavior regarding the "atrocity" of having a bible in your exam room is ridiculous, like a child whining about bedtime.
Look at you.

You asked repeatedly for an illustration of how your church damaged me. I repeatedly told you that it was not about me. You persisted, even becoming petulant about it. I reluctantly provided a personal example, which you snarkily referred to that a having had a prayer answered.

And now you call it whining as you flaunt your indifference atheists and to the hardship your church's scapegoating creates for us. Do you think that you just helped yourself there?

How do you think that you are doing for Christianity on this thread? Do you think that your presence leads to skeptics questioning their choices, or to reconfirming them? Do you think that you are showing us something tempting in the Christian faith, or serving as a disincentive?

“Ditat Deus”

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#569382 Dec 4, 2012
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>Not at all. I was simply reiterating the point to YOU- the person I was having the discussion with- about being able to discuss what FICTIONAL CHARACTERS think and feel.
You forgot about that already, huh?
Go get drunk- AGAIN. You may as well; your few surviving brain cells are shot all to hell anyway.....
I was talking about the Bible and you bring up "FICTIONAL CHARACTERS" from novels.

*hint* the Bible isn't a novel.....

“Ditat Deus”

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#569383 Dec 4, 2012
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>So your definition of loving Christian-ness is an apology?
Okey-dokey......no WONDER you claim to be a Christian- if just saying "I apologize" makes one a Christian then no WONDER you embrace it- it's easy!
No.

Empathy
Humility

You don't understand.

“Ditat Deus”

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#569384 Dec 4, 2012
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. have a drop-dead gorgeous gay nephew. Women grovel at his feet, has had sexual relations with a few. He says, "Had a sexual release but it was like masturbating." He's gay ..
.. are you a 'do-it-yourself' dude or a heterosexual ??..
I'm heterosexual. I'd rather masterbate than even imagine screwing a dude just to get my rocks off. He'll, I'd rather f_ck a knot hole than a dude. I'm straight, your handsome nephew is bi.

OCB

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Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#569385 Dec 4, 2012
I guess the following is just another day in the life of a "good" Christian:

"'You killed Jesus' scrawled on Hanukkah menorah

The Hanukkah menorah is a sign of peace and joy, symbolic of a miracle in the Jewish religion.

But a menorah in Miami Beach, Fla., has also become an attraction for hate speech, with someone scribbling "you killed Jesus" on the base of the prominent Chabad Hanukkah display.

Rabbi Zev Katz, who put up the menorah, is disappointed.

"I hoped that people from other religions, we could all get along, we all have what we believe in, respect each other and live with each other," said Katz, of Chabad House in Miami Beach."

Unfortunately for Rabbi Katz, this isn't the first anti-Semitic attack against his giant menorah.

"Twelve years ago someone smashed it, terrible, and we weren't sure if we're going to actually light the menorah the first night of Hanukkah," he said.

But they did then, and they will again this Saturday night as Jews ring in the first night of Hanukkah. Organizers said they are expecting 1,000 people to attend.

At Temple Beth Torah, in the Wellington community near West Palm Beach, there was more anti-Semitism this past weekend. In that incident, somebody painted a swastika along with some offensive words on a dumpster."

So.....what does this tell us? Not only that anti-semitism is alive and well in the USA, but that there are those who try to SHOVE their beliefs into the faces of those who believe differently.

Funny- I doubt there is even ONE incident of a JEW committing such acts against religious CHRISTIAN symbols.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/04/15...

“Ditat Deus”

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#569386 Dec 4, 2012
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>OMG. This has been answered for you numerous times already, RR.
Engaging in the PHYSICAL act of sex does NOT change one's PHYSIOLOGICAL and PSYCHOLOGICAL make-up.
I think it was IANS or another wonderful poster here who gave you several excellent examples.
Along those same lines- I can use the heel of my shoe to hammer in a nail- that doesn't change my shoe into a hammer- it is still a shoe.
I can use a needle to remove a splinter from my finger- that doesn't change a needle into a pair of tweezers- it is still a pair of tweezers.
Not sure how much more or how much better this can be explained to you:
But a gay person having sex with a straight person does not change that person from what they actually are- which is gay.
And you do not GET that sexual arousal need not have anything to do with being attracted to a PERSON.
Really- this has been beaten into the ground; as I posted to someone else, your homophobia results in your irrational emotions getting the better of you and preventing you from seeing this topic objectively, reasonably and rationally.
Go buy a book on human sexuality- maybe then your questions can be answered to your satisfaction and so that you can understand what this topic is all about.
The heel of your shoe wouldn't call itself a hammer.

The needle wouldn't call itself tweezers.

Seriously? Those are terrible examples.

I guess I'll have to go but a book, you people are beyond clueless on sexuality.

OCB

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Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#569387 Dec 4, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
You should read it. That article isn't a lie.
The Darwin fish is a mockery of the Jesus fish. It teaches atheist intolerance of religion, particularly Christians.
It IS a lie. It doesn't teach anything any more than a Jesus fish teaches anything.

It simply is a reflection of the views and beliefs of the individual- just like the Jesus fish is.

If you don't think so, then your Jesus fish is doing the same thing: teaching Christian intolerance of other beliefs, particularly atheists.

Put your self-inflicted persecution complex back on the shelf, RR.

OCB

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Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#569388 Dec 4, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
No.
Empathy
Humility
You don't understand.
Oh, but I DO understand since both are a major part of my character and psychological make up.

But since you can't make the same claim, what I don't understand is why you are talking about that which you know not.

You are one of THE least empathetic and humble people here, RR.

What you know about either wouldn't even begin to cover the head of the world's smallest pin.

OCB

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Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#569390 Dec 4, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
I was talking about the Bible and you bring up "FICTIONAL CHARACTERS" from novels.
*hint* the Bible isn't a novel.....
No- but it IS a work of fiction and at the very least, I don't have to believe it is fact to discuss the characters found within its pages.

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#569391 Dec 4, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Look at you.
You asked repeatedly for an illustration of how your church damaged me. I repeatedly told you that it was not about me. You persisted, even becoming petulant about it. I reluctantly provided a personal example, which you snarkily referred to that a having had a prayer answered.
And now you call it whining as you flaunt your indifference atheists and to the hardship your church's scapegoating creates for us. Do you think that you just helped yourself there?
How do you think that you are doing for Christianity on this thread? Do you think that your presence leads to skeptics questioning their choices, or to reconfirming them? Do you think that you are showing us something tempting in the Christian faith, or serving as a disincentive?
The prayer was answered because you actually answered a question.

Sorry, but I don't see how you were treated sooooo badly by the church. You said the whole town was out to get you. I think you're lying & exaggerating.

I think I'm doing just fine for Christians on this thread. People read my posts and if I can get even ONE person to think or second guess their atheism, my job is going well.

How's your atheist movement going?

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#569392 Dec 4, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
The heel of your shoe wouldn't call itself a hammer.
The needle wouldn't call itself tweezers.
Seriously? Those are terrible examples.
I guess I'll have to go but a book, you people are beyond clueless on sexuality.
And a gay person having sex with someone of the opposite sex doesn't call themselves straight!

No- they are EXCELLENT examples; what is terrible is your inability to grasp that a GAY person can have sex with someone of the opposite sex and still be 100% gay.

You'll have to go buy a book- wow! That'll be a first for ya!
yahoo

Jackson, OH

#569393 Dec 4, 2012
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Little Rock, AR

#569394 Dec 4, 2012
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>It IS a lie. It doesn't teach anything any more than a Jesus fish teaches anything.
It simply is a reflection of the views and beliefs of the individual- just like the Jesus fish is.
If you don't think so, then your Jesus fish is doing the same thing: teaching Christian intolerance of other beliefs, particularly atheists.
Put your self-inflicted persecution complex back on the shelf, RR.
TODAY is the day of salvation,for the Lord Jesus Christ has not promised that you will live to see tomorrow:

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#569395 Dec 4, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm heterosexual. I'd rather masterbate than even imagine screwing a dude just to get my rocks off. He'll, I'd rather f_ck a knot hole than a dude. I'm straight, your handsome nephew is bi.
.. you do not get to define me or my nephew ..

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Fennario

#569396 Dec 4, 2012
Evo-Lotion is Rub-ish wrote:
Durability of an organism is the main attribute that qualifies it as being "fit" to survive.
Nope. It's the ability to produce more viable offspring.
Evo-Lotion is Rub-ish wrote:
The whole point of reproduction is to preserve the genes, as such; but reproduction would not be necessary if the genes were indestructible.
Do you know the difference between a gene and an organism?
Evo-Lotion is Rub-ish wrote:
How is it that evolution selects for the fittest, and gives rise to entities that have needs; when needs are characteristic of weakness and not fitness?
Needs are not weaknesses when the needs can be met. You need oxygen, which is not a weakness if you can stay out of old refrigerators and lake bottoms.

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Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#569397 Dec 4, 2012
Evo-Lotion is Rub-ish wrote:
Predators are in direct conflict with evolution. Predators cannot exist without grazers; so why did evolution facilitate predators, when it is possible that organisms can survive by grazing?
Your understanding of this material is badly deformed, no doubt by your faith science teachers. Predators exist because they can, and they are not in conflict with evolution. The only thing in conflict with evolution is your church.
Evo-Lotion is Rub-ish wrote:
Why does natural selection encourage the birth of organisms that must depend on each other for survival; when it is possible to make organisms that depend only on one abundant food source?
Sorry. Having millions of questions is fine. But you lack the basic education in the field for a reason: you don't care about any of the answers to your questions. They all are declarative statements of your faith disguised as inquiry.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#569398 Dec 4, 2012
Evo-Lotion is Rub-ish wrote:
BTW consensus is not a part of scientific method.
Actually, it is a product of the vetting aspect of the scientific method in the broader sense, which goes beyond observing, hypothesizing, experimenting, collecting data, and induction (generalization).

It's not science just because it's published. It's only accepted into the scientific community after it has been subjected to the larger scientific method: peer review and the test of time.

If the results are reproducible, if they are never contradicted by other findings, if they lead to confirmed predictions, or if they suggests additional avenues of inquiry that are also fruitful, then consensus will be achieved and the information called scientific knowledge.

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